E Scooters soon to be allowed on UK roads?

E Scooters soon to be allowed on UK roads?

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eldar

21,872 posts

198 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
I am willing to bet my own money that the endgame here is private ownership being allowed.
Agreed, but with a layer of bureaucracy attached.

Following the end of the Coventry trial, they are everywhere, seemingly ignored by police. I suspect the genie is already out of the lamp.

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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eldar said:
Lord Marylebone said:
I am willing to bet my own money that the endgame here is private ownership being allowed.
Agreed, but with a layer of bureaucracy attached.

Following the end of the Coventry trial, they are everywhere, seemingly ignored by police. I suspect the genie is already out of the lamp.
Yes. The genie is already out of the lamp. Even more so now with the various trials on the go.
There is no way the government could backtrack on it all now without being accused of blocking affordable urban transport or green transport.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

173 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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Any update on this, I accept it’s hardly a pressing priority for the government

MB140

4,118 posts

105 months

Sunday 10th January 2021
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jakesmith said:
Any update on this, I accept it’s hardly a pressing priority for the government
Still illegal to ride your own. Only over 16 can rent and ride legally. There was an article on the BBC news about police clamping down and how you can get points are your car licence just after new year.

It seems quite a few people have had them as Xmas gifts and weren’t aware there illegal and you could get points n

ddom

6,657 posts

50 months

Sunday 10th January 2021
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A lad on an e-scooter was goofing along the pavement last night. Not many out at the shops I grant you, but it’s a piss take. Cyclists get nothing but crap for this, but e-scooters?

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 10th January 2021
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ddom said:
A lad on an e-scooter was goofing along the pavement last night. Not many out at the shops I grant you, but it’s a piss take. Cyclists get nothing but crap for this, but e-scooters?
It is illegal to ride an e-scooter on the pavement, the same as it is to ride a bicycle on the pavement.

There will always be people riding bicycles and scooters on the pavement, and it is the task of the police to stop them.

From what I have seen, people get just as annoyed by scooters on the pavement as bicycles on the pavement, and rightly so, they are both irritating, but that isn’t the fault of the vehicle being used, it is the fault of the person riding it.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

249 months

Sunday 10th January 2021
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Lord Marylebone said:
ddom said:
A lad on an e-scooter was goofing along the pavement last night. Not many out at the shops I grant you, but it’s a piss take. Cyclists get nothing but crap for this, but e-scooters?
It is illegal to ride an e-scooter on the pavement, the same as it is to ride a bicycle on the pavement.

There will always be people riding bicycles and scooters on the pavement, and it is the task of the police to stop them.

From what I have seen, people get just as annoyed by scooters on the pavement as bicycles on the pavement, and rightly so, they are both irritating, but that isn’t the fault of the vehicle being used, it is the fault of the person riding it.
All electric vehicles have one thing in common that makes them anti social.... the lack of noise. You get a close pass from behind by one of these scooters on the pavement it will probably make you flinch and jump. Scary stuff. One step out of line and you’ve got a fifteen stone rider at 14 mph plowing into your, not great for your health.

But they are brilliant for getting around, cheap, clean, fast, fairly safe in most European cities. Not so much in most Uk towns and cities. The grab and go usage really makes sense. I can see a use for them as a replacement for cars in most city centres. Ban cars from the central shop/theatre/cafe/tourist spots (nearly there in most cities anyway) and these things will make much more sense.


anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 10th January 2021
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TTmonkey said:
All electric vehicles have one thing in common that makes them anti social.... the lack of noise. You get a close pass from behind by one of these scooters on the pavement it will probably make you flinch and jump. Scary stuff. One step out of line and you’ve got a fifteen stone rider at 14 mph plowing into your, not great for your health.

But they are brilliant for getting around, cheap, clean, fast, fairly safe in most European cities. Not so much in most Uk towns and cities. The grab and go usage really makes sense. I can see a use for them as a replacement for cars in most city centres. Ban cars from the central shop/theatre/cafe/tourist spots (nearly there in most cities anyway) and these things will make much more sense.
First time I’ve ever heard a silent vehicle being called anti social rofl

Bicycles are also silent.

But that aside, I suspect it is the illegal pavement riding rather than the lack of noise that causes the issue, and as we have already said, use on pavements is illegal.

Cars, motorcycles, trucks, busses, bicycles, electric scooters and other vehicles are just going to have to learn how to mix with each other on the roads.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

173 months

Sunday 10th January 2021
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I love riding my scooter - I’m lucky in that I can get almost the whole way to my local town just on private estates so there isn’t much traffic or chance of a police car. I’ve ridden past police and they didn’t do anything. At the end of the day I’m going the same speed as a bike and taking a car off the road. It’s still in that honeymoon stage where people smile at me. I love it. Almost everyone smiles. Stark contrast with my R8 which has a noisy exhaust and attracts more scowls.

legendracer

419 posts

52 months

Friday 15th January 2021
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Been waiting for months to buy one to commute to work. How they allow soon.
It's not a big deal to be thought so much when electric vehicles are promoted. It should be seen equal to electric bicycle.
Many users are already enjoying it and I don't think authorities can stop that now.

unident

6,702 posts

53 months

Friday 15th January 2021
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legendracer said:
Been waiting for months to buy one to commute to work. How they allow soon.
It's not a big deal to be thought so much when electric vehicles are promoted. It should be seen equal to electric bicycle.
Many users are already enjoying it and I don't think authorities can stop that now.
That reads like a bot has composed it.

markymarkthree

2,322 posts

173 months

Friday 15th January 2021
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unident said:
legendracer said:
Been waiting for months to buy one to commute to work. How they allow soon.
It's not a big deal to be thought so much when electric vehicles are promoted. It should be seen equal to electric bicycle.
Many users are already enjoying it and I don't think authorities can stop that now.
That reads like a bot has composed it.
A bot isn't that thick. biggrin

unident

6,702 posts

53 months

Friday 15th January 2021
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markymarkthree said:
unident said:
legendracer said:
Been waiting for months to buy one to commute to work. How they allow soon.
It's not a big deal to be thought so much when electric vehicles are promoted. It should be seen equal to electric bicycle.
Many users are already enjoying it and I don't think authorities can stop that now.
That reads like a bot has composed it.
A bot isn't that thick. biggrin
Touché thumbup

PF62

3,729 posts

175 months

Friday 15th January 2021
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Lord Marylebone said:
It is illegal to ride an e-scooter on the pavement, the same as it is to ride a bicycle on the pavement.

There will always be people riding bicycles and scooters on the pavement, and it is the task of the police to stop them.

From what I have seen, people get just as annoyed by scooters on the pavement as bicycles on the pavement, and rightly so, they are both irritating, but that isn’t the fault of the vehicle being used, it is the fault of the person riding it.
Bikes with their large wheels are designed for the road. However e-scooters with their small wheels are not, as that woman who got squashed under a truck found out, hence more people are likely to ride e-scooters on the pavement as it is safer for them; although not safer for the pedestrians.

So good luck to the police having to ensure people use e-scooters in a manner that increases their likelihood of being killed.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

173 months

Friday 15th January 2021
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Mine has 10” pneumatic wheels perfectly suitable for use on roads
Plenty of cyclists squashed under trucks with far larger wheels not sure why you think that’s a factor?
Plenty of cities using these scooters already without major issues

PF62

3,729 posts

175 months

Friday 15th January 2021
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jakesmith said:
Mine has 10” pneumatic wheels perfectly suitable for use on roads
So you have an unusual one. Great. Most don't.

jakesmith said:
Plenty of cyclists squashed under trucks with far larger wheels not sure why you think that’s a factor?
Duh, because hitting one of the many potholes on a bike is not great, on a normal e-scooters with the dinky wheels then it is 'squish'

jakesmith said:
Plenty of cities using these scooters already without major issues
You mean like those cities who had to suspend the rental schemes because the users were behaving like tts riding the on the pavement rather than risking death on the road.

eldar

21,872 posts

198 months

Friday 15th January 2021
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Funny how most of Europe manages to accommodate these lethal machines without the collapse of society. Do you actually think the brits are so much more incompetent?

PF62

3,729 posts

175 months

Friday 15th January 2021
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eldar said:
Funny how most of Europe manages to accommodate these lethal machines without the collapse of society. Do you actually think the brits are so much more incompetent?
Yep, all sweetness and light over there with no problems at all - https://www.wantedinrome.com/news/electric-scooter...

eldar

21,872 posts

198 months

Friday 15th January 2021
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PF62 said:
eldar said:
Funny how most of Europe manages to accommodate these lethal machines without the collapse of society. Do you actually think the brits are so much more incompetent?
Yep, all sweetness and light over there with no problems at all - https://www.wantedinrome.com/news/electric-scooter...
An indication of the growing public acceptance and demand for them, more users, more accidents.

Probably ought to ban cars, busses and cycles on those grounds. As for walking...

ESD1711

390 posts

53 months

Friday 15th January 2021
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Taken on a trip to Miami last year.

Awesome way of getting around.