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bluepolarbear said:
jesusbuiltmycar said:
The Anti-War protests.......FAILED
The petrol protests.........FAILED
And good ol maggie crushed the miners in th 80s
So I guess that direct action has achieved nothing in my lifetime, not to mention the fact that most of the methods of direct action are illegal.
Anti war protests aren't direct action - by and large peaceful protest - waste of time
Petrol Protests wasn't wide spread - it has to be wide spead in terms of people - It has the basis - outside the drivers no one moved to stop it. Was only broken when the oil companies were told they would face windfall taxes if they didn't sort it out. If others joined it that would have suceeded. Even with just the drivers emergency procedures were brought into place including rationing and priority use. Trouble was most people while supportive wouldn't live without their car for more than a day or two - once it started to hurt.
The minor's strike failed, again primarly due to the lack of support from the public. If you look at the background you'll see it came very close to bringing the government down.
Two in your live time - poll tax and Northern Ireland but achieved their owns through widespread support and direct action.
Yes most DA is illegal always has been.
Biggest problem today is getting the critical mass - most people just can't be bothered.
Then what chance is there of getting critical mass for a campaign against scameras, with tony b.liars propoganda machinie and an opposition party that is about as much use as tits on a fish
>> Edited by jesusbuiltmycar on Thursday 23 September 09:23
>> Edited by jesusbuiltmycar on Thursday 23 September 09:25
blademan said:
I often wonder what we would see if we built a time machine and travelled into the future. More technology, less person to person communication; monitoring of whereabouts by electronic means; the mind boggles. Kind of glad I wont be around to see it.
But my children, and theirs, and maybe yours if you have any, won't only see it, they will have to suffer it if we don't stop it now!
IOLAIRE said:
...... The only way to change things is to put pressure on the Government and the system via a powerful, but non-political organisation, that is educated in it's driving motifs and has no need to get elected or do anything other than represent the true will and best interests of the people. An intellectual force that exists as a conduit between the people and Government.
Stop whingeing and put on your thinking, creative heads.
Currently about 30% of voters/20% of the electorate vote for the major parties (who have major political organisations behind them) and the first past the post (who sometimes have fewer votes than the second!) get to choose the government.
The government is supposed to be accountable to parliament, which is supposed to be accountable to the people.
Unfortunately, the government, instead of governing according to the wishes of the "majority", with the consent of the "minority", governs according to the most powerful or vociferous minority within its, in fact, minority party.
I don't know if this is what you are thinking of, but what is needed is an organisation, a non-political, non-parliamentary people's "party" which will tell all political parliamentary parties exactly which non-contentious, non-political, socially necessary policies the real majority believes society needs and the real minority are prepared to accept (on their merits, and not in exchange for some horse-trading over its minority obsessions).
And, similarly, which will tell the political parties which policies are not necessary, or don't have majority support, or don't have minority agreement, and should be scrapped/dropped.
If no party comes up with the goods, vote none of the above, then the people's party goes parliamentary next time round.
Streetcop said:
It must be awful to be dissapointed all the time and upset at the situation....
Yup, it must be.
And I take it that you are implying that you are not.
So you saying you are happy to live in an awful society that disappoints and upsets its citizens?
And to be part of the cause!
Edited to say:
I'll leave you to have the final, authorised BiB word on this serious topic.
>> Edited by bogush on Saturday 25th September 14:17
bogush said:
It must be awful to be dissapointed all the time and upset at the situation....
Yup, it must be.
And I take it that you are implying that you are not.
So you saying you are happy to live in an awful society that disappoints and upsets its citizens?
And to be part of the cause!
I'm happy as a pig in shite....
Which is ironic, yes?
Street
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