Eight months for using a laser jammer ?!! Wtf
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julian64 said:
is this proof laser jammers don't work?
I think the jammer worked as Police couldnt ascertain a speed for him. If he'd screwed his loaf, stripped the jammer out - leaving no trace of it then given a no comment interview and not lied about the whereabouts of his car then its unlikely hed have finished up in jail. 
Dhol01 said:
If your priorities matched those of the taxpayer / voter then you might have more people on side and willing to fund the police. I cannot remember anyone ever saying let’s give the police more funding to buy more speed vans and cameras.
Food for thought?
I’m a taxpayer/voter and I think the Police do a good job in difficult circumstances and am very pleased they managed to secure this conviction. The majority of people I know feel pretty much the same.Food for thought?
I’ve had speeding tickets over the years and currently have 3 points.
Sorry.
julian64 said:
is this proof laser jammers don't work?
They aren't eyeball jammers.There's a human being in that parked van, and when his camera says "Beep! Not liking this one...", he scribbles a little note, and the video can then be manually reviewed to get the time/date/plate of the car that's not giving a speed reading.
When the same car drives past several times, going visibly faster than stuff that's giving a reading at or near the limit, with a self-important twunt gurning and waving a middle finger, what do you think that the man in the van is going to do?
I've had a few tickets in my time also but not being a sociopathic, spittle flecked idiot I get on with life without making out as if the world's police force is out to get me in some Staziesque fantasy.
This guy got his comeupance and as a deterrent sentence for PtCoJ I say it was well merited and may dissuade others to be as arrogant.
This guy got his comeupance and as a deterrent sentence for PtCoJ I say it was well merited and may dissuade others to be as arrogant.
Bigends said:
julian64 said:
is this proof laser jammers don't work?
I think the jammer worked as Police couldnt ascertain a speed for him. If he'd screwed his loaf, stripped the jammer out - leaving no trace of it then given a no comment interview and not lied about the whereabouts of his car then its unlikely hed have finished up in jail. Perhaps you can work out how he would do that.
ghe13rte said:
If he could have worked out how to remotely erase the recording of the device from the police video he may have stood a chance.
Perhaps you can work out how he would do that.
That would be up to the Police to prove the jamming signal came from his car - maybe they could - maybe not. (I meant any physical trace of the gadget from his car - wiring, brackets etc) Perhaps you can work out how he would do that.
Bigends said:
ghe13rte said:
If he could have worked out how to remotely erase the recording of the device from the police video he may have stood a chance.
Perhaps you can work out how he would do that.
That would be up to the Police to prove the jamming signal came from his car - maybe they could - maybe not. (I meant any physical trace of the gadget from his car - wiring, brackets etc) Perhaps you can work out how he would do that.
I'm stunned by the daft suggestions relating to this subject.
He doesn't sound too bright, but perhaps like me some years ago he'd been 'targeted' by the police for doing something truly awful like lodge various complaints about them regarding their behaviour.
They will always win in the end though. When he is eventually released he'd be better moving to a completely new area, as this won't be the end of the matter. He's taken them on and they won't let him go now.
They will always win in the end though. When he is eventually released he'd be better moving to a completely new area, as this won't be the end of the matter. He's taken them on and they won't let him go now.
Bigends said:
ghe13rte said:
Not at all difficult to show it came from his car and he would still have the issue of trying to erase it from the video.
I'm stunned by the daft suggestions relating to this subject.
What exactly would the Police video show in relation to the jammerI'm stunned by the daft suggestions relating to this subject.
La Liga said:
Dhol01 said:
Unrealistically low speeds limits combined with officious and overbearing enforcement equals cop haters.
It also equals 'cop lovers' when you see how many people contact the police about enforcing excess speed enforcement. Not that it matters as trust / confidence in the police etc doesn't really change much over time.
Hypocrisy is rampant in all aspects of speed control.
How do people stand on tickets issued and then it turns out the council didn’t get the paperwork right ? Then the limit is unforcible?
But if the TR isn’t filed or has the wrong name on it, is it ok to change a limit?
That’s happened to Avon and Somerset and they are refusing to reverse or refund those affected.
They have just dropped the recent cases? Do Avon and Somerset have a duty of care to check the council have legally reduced a limit. Not the first time I have known police and council trying to enforce a limit they have no legal right doing, a few years back they resurfaced the tone way and without prior need dropped the limit from 50 to 40. Then after they did this they filed a traffic regulation order and for a period of time the limit was not legal.
But if the TR isn’t filed or has the wrong name on it, is it ok to change a limit?
That’s happened to Avon and Somerset and they are refusing to reverse or refund those affected.
They have just dropped the recent cases? Do Avon and Somerset have a duty of care to check the council have legally reduced a limit. Not the first time I have known police and council trying to enforce a limit they have no legal right doing, a few years back they resurfaced the tone way and without prior need dropped the limit from 50 to 40. Then after they did this they filed a traffic regulation order and for a period of time the limit was not legal.
julian64 said:
is this proof laser jammers don't work?
Jammers work and I am not aware of a successful court case other than this one.I have known of someone who removed it and said no comment and cps bottled it and he promptly bottled it.
In this case they did raid his house at silly o clock and seized his car.
Roman Rhodes said:
I’m a taxpayer/voter and I think the Police do a good job in difficult circumstances and am very pleased they managed to secure this conviction. The majority of people I know feel pretty much the same.
I’ve had speeding tickets over the years and currently have 3 points.
Sorry.
What are you sorry for? A lot of people including me broadly agree with you. The police are undermanned and under resourced, under the circumstances they do a pretty good job in difficult circumstances.I’ve had speeding tickets over the years and currently have 3 points.
Sorry.
I would agree with the posters saying that speed limits are now being set too low and perhaps a disproportionate amount of police time is being devoted to catching speeders.
As to this guy, I’m glad he was caught but 8 months does seem excessive and expensive for the taxpayers. If was fined and given community service that would have been a benefit for the taxpayer.
ghe13rte said:
I'm stunned by the daft suggestions questions relating to this subject.
Stunned you may be but most of us have probably never been in a camera van that's failed to get reading as a result of being foiled by a laser jammer! Therefore, out of interest what will the resultant video show; just a vehicle going past with no speed displayed or something else (and if so what?).Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff