No Mask, No Entry, No Exceptions

No Mask, No Entry, No Exceptions

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nonsequitur

20,083 posts

118 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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Countdown said:
Pit Pony said:
Red9zero said:
Masks in cars get me. Fair enough in a taxi, or if you are giving someone a lift, ok if it's not your car, but I've seen people in their own cars, on their own, wearing a mask. Would you not just run a Dettol wipe over the inside instead if you were that bothered ? I regularly see a chap go past our house in his convertible, with the roof down, wearing a mask. It's just odd.
I wore a mask to drive from one shop to another on the other side of town, because I couldn't be arsed taking it off, and it was a cold day.
It gets to a point where you don't really notice it.
I work in a shop most days - with mask on - and strangely you do become immune from noticing that it's there. Popping out for various tasks during the day my mask remains in place yes, even in the car.

rscott

14,835 posts

193 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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bad company said:
CooperS said:
I don't see why wearing a mask which reduces transmission at points where we most likely to receive or transmit covid i.e. enclosed public spaces is seen as such an impediment.

Get over it. what reduction in quality of life are you impacted by?

Wearing a mask and cleaning my hands didn't stop me going on a city break this week, going out for meals and drinks or generally living life....
You clearly have no problems wearing a mask/muzzle, millions of others including me most certainly do. They’re uncomfortable, unhygienic and imo dehumanising.
If your mask is unhygienic, then that's your fault and no-one else's. Use disposable ones or change and wash a cloth one regularly.

bad company

Original Poster:

18,772 posts

268 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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rscott said:
bad company said:
CooperS said:
I don't see why wearing a mask which reduces transmission at points where we most likely to receive or transmit covid i.e. enclosed public spaces is seen as such an impediment.

Get over it. what reduction in quality of life are you impacted by?

Wearing a mask and cleaning my hands didn't stop me going on a city break this week, going out for meals and drinks or generally living life....
You clearly have no problems wearing a mask/muzzle, millions of others including me most certainly do. They’re uncomfortable, unhygienic and imo dehumanising.
If your mask is unhygienic, then that's your fault and no-one else's. Use disposable ones or change and wash a cloth one regularly.
No need, I don’t wear one any more.

rscott

14,835 posts

193 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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bad company said:
rscott said:
bad company said:
CooperS said:
I don't see why wearing a mask which reduces transmission at points where we most likely to receive or transmit covid i.e. enclosed public spaces is seen as such an impediment.

Get over it. what reduction in quality of life are you impacted by?

Wearing a mask and cleaning my hands didn't stop me going on a city break this week, going out for meals and drinks or generally living life....
You clearly have no problems wearing a mask/muzzle, millions of others including me most certainly do. They’re uncomfortable, unhygienic and imo dehumanising.
If your mask is unhygienic, then that's your fault and no-one else's. Use disposable ones or change and wash a cloth one regularly.
No need, I don’t wear one any more.
So you either wear a visor, don't go out shopping or have a special snowflake badge then..


I thought the approach taken by many US stores was about right - no mask, no entry, no exceptions. But we will offer kerbside service to those who need it - order online/over the phone and you can pick it up at the door.

sevensfun

730 posts

38 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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rscott said:
So you either wear a visor, don't go out shopping or have a special snowflake badge then..


I thought the approach taken by many US stores was about right - no mask, no entry, no exceptions. But we will offer kerbside service to those who need it - order online/over the phone and you can pick it up at the door.
There is no requirement to carry an exempt lanyard either

Driver101

14,376 posts

123 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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Reading all the threads about face masks highlights how many people have serious issues. I find it hard to believe that so many people genuinely have an issue doing something so simple. I'm shocked with the stupid things people post to try and justify their stance.

To this day it's a tiny minority of people I come across not wearing a mask. Even people with obvious health or mobility problems, and the elderly, all manage to wear one.

From the vast majority I see without masks there is very common theme. The vast majority all appear to be aholes who don't have any respect and struggle to behave in an acceptable manner anyway. The mask just gives them another reason to rebel and behave like pricks.




MaxFromage

1,927 posts

133 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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nonsequitur said:
I work in a shop most days - with mask on - and strangely you do become immune from noticing that it's there. Popping out for various tasks during the day my mask remains in place yes, even in the car.
It's amazing the difference in opinions on this. The manager of my local supermarket wasn't happy when the mask rules came in, but they have been wearing them as required by the law. However as of last week they've told employees to crack on and do what they want. Only 10% now wear them.

Countdown

40,195 posts

198 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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sevensfun said:
rscott said:
So you either wear a visor, don't go out shopping or have a special snowflake badge then..


I thought the approach taken by many US stores was about right - no mask, no entry, no exceptions. But we will offer kerbside service to those who need it - order online/over the phone and you can pick it up at the door.
There is no requirement to carry an exempt lanyard either
There isn't a requirement but, unless it's obvious that you have underlying medical issues, some people are going to assume the non-masker is an arrogant self-entitled dick.

sevensfun

730 posts

38 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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Countdown said:
There isn't a requirement but, unless it's obvious that you have underlying medical issues, some people are going to assume the non-masker is an arrogant self-entitled dick.
Well, that's their problem, not mine.

bad company

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18,772 posts

268 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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As a ‘non masker’ I was asked just once at a cafe in Hampstead if I was exempt. Other than that nobody queried anything and I wasn’t using a badge or lanyard.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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Driver101 said:
Reading all the threads about face masks highlights how many people have serious issues. I find it hard to believe that so many people genuinely have an issue doing something so simple. I'm shocked with the stupid things people post to try and justify their stance.

To this day it's a tiny minority of people I come across not wearing a mask. Even people with obvious health or mobility problems, and the elderly, all manage to wear one.

From the vast majority I see without masks there is very common theme. The vast majority all appear to be aholes who don't have any respect and struggle to behave in an acceptable manner anyway. The mask just gives them another reason to rebel and behave like pricks.
You speak sense. The Awkward Squad won’t like that.

Smurfsarepeopletoo

875 posts

59 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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I'm assuming all of the people that decide they don't want to wear a mask, would be happy with surgical staff not wearing them if they had to operate on them, because you know, what's the point, they don't do anything, and the surgical team might not want to wear them.


Sticks.

8,834 posts

253 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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Re the OP, it's been clear from the outset that there are exemptions from the requirement to wear face masks including health/disability.

There are exemption cards for those who want them. So if a shop excluded someone for not wearing a face mask and the reason they weren't wearing one was a disability then that would clearly breach the EA.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-co...

MaxFromage

1,927 posts

133 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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Smurfsarepeopletoo said:
I'm assuming all of the people that decide they don't want to wear a mask, would be happy with surgical staff not wearing them if they had to operate on them, because you know, what's the point, they don't do anything, and the surgical team might not want to wear them.
Some info to consider:

https://www.meehanmd.com/blog/post/170332/if-masks...

monthou

4,652 posts

52 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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Sticks. said:
Re the OP, it's been clear from the outset that there are exemptions from the requirement to wear face masks including health/disability.

There are exemption cards for those who want them. So if a shop excluded someone for not wearing a face mask and the reason they weren't wearing one was a disability then that would clearly breach the EA.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-co...
Has any shop or business been prosecuted for insisting on mask use?

sevensfun

730 posts

38 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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MaxFromage said:
Great find - and there we have it

If a surgeon were sick, especially with a viral infection, they would not perform surgery as they know the virus would NOT be stopped by their surgical mask.


InitialDave

11,990 posts

121 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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donkmeister said:
When I see unusual or extreme signs in a business, I usually wonder what happened that resulted in the owner putting the sign up...

If you were to speak to the owners, you may well find that the signage is not there to deter customers with genuine reasons why they cannot wear a mask, but rather as a prop to point at when a certain sort of person starts showing off. I would bet money that at no point in the last 15 months, have the words "ps off, and take your oxygen tank with you" been shouted by the proprietor of a British cafe.

Plus "no mask, no entry, no exceptions" saves a lot of ink and paper versus "no leopard print leggings, no oversized sunglasses, no 'I need to speak to the manager' haircuts, no bobbing your head around with your index finger extended as you attempt to argue a point, no clumsily-worded legal-sounding text you printed off a forum on Mumsnet that must apply because it was written by someone whose friend knows a paralegal, no referring to Magna Carta unless you can actually quote the clause you think supports your argument, no referring to laws that don't actually exist, no quoting bits of legislation that you forgot to check are this country's legislation."
I suspect something like this is the case.

As with allowing service animals into shops etc, what should be an allowance to make life easier for people with a genuine issue gets abused by people who really don't need it, but want to have their own way and have absolutely zero shame about what they're doing. Just a "you can't stop me!" attitude.

I'd like to think such scummy people are by far the minority, and almost everyone you see without a mask genuinely does need to not wear one. But I'm really not at all sure.


steveo3002

10,560 posts

176 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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InitialDave said:
I'd like to think such scummy people are by far the minority, and almost everyone you see without a mask genuinely does need to not wear one. But I'm really not at all sure.
odd 1/1000 genuinely cannot wear mask....others are self entitled cant be told what to do types

sevensfun

730 posts

38 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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InitialDave said:
I suspect something like this is the case.

As with allowing service animals into shops etc, what should be an allowance to make life easier for people with a genuine issue gets abused by people who really don't need it, but want to have their own way and have absolutely zero shame about what they're doing. Just a "you can't stop me!" attitude.

I'd like to think such scummy people are by far the minority, and almost everyone you see without a mask genuinely does need to not wear one. But I'm really not at all sure.
Look at you, calling people scum for a choice you don't agree with. The irony is strong.

monthou

4,652 posts

52 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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sevensfun said:
Look at you, calling people scum for a choice you don't agree with. The irony is strong.
Where's the irony in that?