Lib-con looking to lower blood alcohol limit

[F i F]

otolith said:

streaky said:

thunderbelmont said:

They'd save more than a few hundred lives if they made everyone live in bungalows, with no items of furniture more than 2" high (so you can't climb up and fall off of it), because falls in the home account for more deaths than drink-driving.

2" high furniture is a lot easier to trip over - Streaky

Not if you force everyone to crawl on all fours.

But then you'd continually have to get the carpets cleaned due to this lot...

[F i F]

Sorry for resurrecting an old topic that had gone a bit off track but I have got to Annex L of the North Report.

Came across this data

Country	BAC limit	Alcohol related deaths	Checks per driver %	Offences as %
-	mg/100 ml	% of all road deaths	No of checks/No drivers	of driver population
UK	80	17.0	1.7	0.3
Sweden	20	16.1	45.3	0.3
Spain	50	20.5	13.5	0.4
Netherlands	50	6.2	20.4	0.3
Hungary	0 (nil)	8.7	18.2	0.6
Finland	50	27.3	22.0	0.9
France	50	27.3	29.9	0.9
Czech Rep	0 (nil)	3.4	6.6	0.2

I would argue that this suggests the biggest influence on alcohol related road deaths is not the limit, is also not necessarily the testing regime but a cultural thing.

What is Netherlands doing right though? Those crazy Dutch eh?

But I'd say UK police are targeting the drivers well while some forces eg Sweden are targeting almost anything that moves based on a lower BAC limit to no effect.

edited for table formating grrrr and numptyism missing off a complete column.

Edited by F i F on Friday 25th June 10:08

[otolith]

I am suspicious of the use of percentages there (because if we reduced deaths by other causes it would make our alcohol figure look worse) and of the definition of "alcohol related road deaths" - does it, for example, include pissed pedestrians falling under buses?

[streaky]

And people with alcohol in their bloodstream falling from road bridges or on to roads?

More importantly, are the national figures compiled on the same basis (ROH level excepted)?

Streaky