BiB crashes without insurance!

BiB crashes without insurance!

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Heebee

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139 posts

238 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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I've just read this story:

www.manchesteronline.co.uk/news/s/131/131268_fury_as_crash_cop_keeps_his_job.html

If this is true, it sends entirely the wrong message to the public. It implies there's one rule for us, and one rule for Plod.

Surely he should be jailed for this sort of behaviour?

Marki

15,763 posts

272 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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Absolutly outrageous

gh0st

4,693 posts

260 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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Heebee said:
I've just read this story:

www.manchesteronline.co.uk/news/s/131/131268_fury_as_crash_cop_keeps_his_job.html

If this is true, it sends entirely the wrong message to the public. It implies there's one rule for us, and one rule for Plod.

Surely he should be jailed for this sort of behaviour?


It IS one rule for them etc. If you are a police officer you will get treated differently from the rest and there is nothing to stop you using whatever is at your disposal at trying to get off with it.

I am sure traffic wardens get away with their line of work and computer engineers get free computer stuff occasionally (eh-hem )

Its called a perk

Heebee

Original Poster:

139 posts

238 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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I suppose one man's perk is another man's Corrupt Police State...

Seriously, I thought policemen had the book thrown at them in the past if they carried out this level of criminality? Surely it's worse for a policeman to do this sort of thing, than your average numpty? They're in a position of trust, after all.

pzero64

2,090 posts

243 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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Criminal – I’m talking about his hair cut.

foreright

1,045 posts

244 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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gh0st said:
Its called a perk


Surely after being convicted of a serious criminal offence, he shouldn't be allowed to keep his job?? That's just crazy. On the other hand, i can't imagine other officers wanting to work along side him - won't he be forced to resign?

silverback mike

11,290 posts

255 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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If this is what happened, it is wrong.
Has the media reported it correctly? If they have then it is wrong, if you uphold the law, you abide by it.

ph_flyer

434 posts

252 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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*Very* interesting comments (from serving Bib as well) ...

minornut

1,049 posts

239 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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Not very PC to say this but they probably felt they couldn't sack him because of his ethnicity and already being on the sick/skive.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

257 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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Does make you wonder if they considered that sacking him would be construed as some kind of racial issue.

I can't imagine he's going to get a lot of respect from his fellow officers, not that he actually goes to work much by the sound of it.

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

246 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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Well Street if you won't say it I will.

If the facts are as reported then this an absolute disgrace and an insult to serving officers who try and keep the good name of the Police in the public domain.

There can only be one conclusion, Mr Wetblanket, why he has been retained.He should have been drummed out after the Court case.

DVD

xxplod

2,269 posts

246 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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Yes, I'm very much with DVD and Streetcop on this. If he had simply be caught with no insurance, then maybe he should have kept his job. But what he did was tantamount to Perverting the Course of Justice. It went beyond what was possibly an honest oversight, i.e. the insurance and was very much a deliberate and dishonest act.
The Officer is a disgrace, and I'm disappointed that GMPs Chief Officer did not feel it appropriate to dismiss him.

andygo

6,845 posts

257 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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Just another case of plod looking after plod.

I accept that a bit of 'leeway' is bound to happen when a plod is a bit naughty (eg living in the real world of 35mph in a 30), but for high profile cases, then they should be made an example of.

Failure to do that just erodes even more the plods credibility and reputation, making it even harder for the plods who are ok.

He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword. Unless you are a plod.

BTW, no disrespect to the top plods who post on here, and confirm time and time again that they have their feet firmly planted on the floor, and dont have their heads up their arses!

Streetcop

5,907 posts

240 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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andygo said:
Just another case of plod looking after plod.

I accept that a bit of 'leeway' is bound to happen when a plod is a bit naughty (eg living in the real world of 35mph in a 30), but for high profile cases, then they should be made an example of.

Failure to do that just erodes even more the plods credibility and reputation, making it even harder for the plods who are ok.

He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword. Unless you are a plod.

BTW, no disrespect to the top plods who post on here, and confirm time and time again that they have their feet firmly planted on the floor, and dont have their heads up their arses!



Andy..while I agree with most of your post and also thank you for your kind words of support....I think you need to look deeper into the case and not simply at the "plod look after plod" theory....but be more 'modern' in your thinking....lots of time and money is spent training police officers nowadays and there are other ways to punish officers without resorting to sacking them.

Street

>> Edited by Streetcop on Thursday 23 September 23:41

turbobloke

104,538 posts

262 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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Streetcop said:
I don't want to spell it out...but be more 'modern' in your thinking....Street
Know what you mean Street, in today's world there must be equal opportunity for all police officers to make a mistake, no point in claiming it's unfair, and it shouldn't colour our view of the force

wolf1

3,081 posts

252 months

Thursday 23rd September 2004
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"Tariq Mahmood"
That is why he kept his job!
I'm not a rasist so lets not go there!

SpudGunner

472 posts

261 months

Friday 24th September 2004
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Streetcop said:

there are other ways to punish officers without resorting to sacking them.

Street

>> Edited by Streetcop on Thursday 23 September 23:41



what like? withdrawal of donut priviliges?

>> Edited by SpudGunner on Friday 24th September 07:48

medicineman

1,731 posts

239 months

Friday 24th September 2004
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In my profession if I was convicted of any drug charge I would be struck off. Although I sympathise with the Bib views on this I think the police must show a higher standard and must be dealt with more severely.

woodytvr

622 posts

248 months

Friday 24th September 2004
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If this is reported correctly then I cannot believe anyone would support him - especially Bib.

I'm inclined to agree with the race issue being the reason he was kept on though. I mean come on, he has a crash with no insurance - fine keep his job. But to run when it was obviously a fairly serious accident and people were injured, he should be strung up.

A Bib friend of mine got caught drink driving and he lost his job, now I'm not condoning drink driving but he didn't crash or cause anyone else a problem he was just stopped (set-up, it was a police do he was leaving and they pulled him outside) by some other Bib.

burwoodman

18,709 posts

248 months

Friday 24th September 2004
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Sounds to me like this guy has been milking the system for years based on the comment about sick leave for depression. I think the guy is an utter disgrace, least of all to the memory of his mother. Using her as an excuse.

I think the plod were too afraid to sack him. Reading between the lines the psychology experts probably advised he'd top himself if he lost his job.

No point even going there but you can imagine what the system would do to one of us under these conditions. 3 months in the big house?