Towing a drink driver
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Josho

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748 posts

127 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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Forgetting the moral high ground for a second, last night my brother in law and his mate we're out driving in said mates wife's car.

They had fit brake pads to it then gone to the pub then came back and misjudged a bend in a lane and put it on it's roof.

I'm not 100% sure if he was over or not but after rushing out there, pushing it back over and giving it a jump start it started but wouldn't drive, it's busted a CV joint. How I'm not sure as it all seemed to be pretty straight bar the bodywork.

So I swiftly towed it up the road and got it to his house.

They were scared the AA would call the police and weren't sure if he was over or not.

My question is would I have got nicked for towing him should we have been pulled over?

hornetrider

63,161 posts

235 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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Looking forward to this one.


s p a c e m a n

12,123 posts

178 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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If they'd drunk enough to put it on its roof then I wouldn't be towing them just for the probability of them stuffing it into the back of my car, regardless of the chance of a nicking

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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Josho said:
Forgetting the moral high ground for a second
Might be hard, but...

Josho said:
My question is would I have got nicked for towing him should we have been pulled over?
Yes.

BTW, even ignoring the beers, is he somebody that often rolls cars that he's just changed the brake pads on?

kambites

71,566 posts

251 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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As I understand the law, you would not be committing on offence; he would. If the car you were towing isn't road-legal you could get into trouble, but I don't think the driver is your responsibility.

I might be wrong, though.

Josho

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748 posts

127 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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Very quiet road and said driver didn't seem too bad to me, not even sure if he was over or not but just wondered on the legalities rather than the morals.

Curious that's all!

Fortunately it seems a lesson learned, can't help but think brother in law was pressuring his mate but said mate should have stuck to Coke.

You'd think people would be grown up enough by 28.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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kambites said:
As I understand the law, you would not be committing on offence; he would.
Causing or permitting him to be driving or attempting to drive while over the limit. DR14. Same penalty range as his DR10.

kambites

71,566 posts

251 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
kambites said:
As I understand the law, you would not be committing on offence; he would.
Causing or permitting him to be driving or attempting to drive while over the limit. DR14. Same penalty range as his DR10.
Ah OK. I never realised that was an offence.

I suppose it's one that doesn't come up very often. smile

Josho

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748 posts

127 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
kambites said:
As I understand the law, you would not be committing on offence; he would.
Causing or permitting him to be driving or attempting to drive while over the limit. DR14. Same penalty range as his DR10.
Ah, definitely something to consider for the future.

/curiosity

RS Grant

1,831 posts

263 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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Josho said:
...but said mate should have stuck to Coke.



Cheers,
Grant

V8LM

5,560 posts

239 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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Josho said:
Forgetting the moral high ground for a second, last night my brother in law and his mate we're out driving in said mates wife's car.

They had fit brake pads to it then gone to the pub then came back and misjudged a bend in a lane and put it on it's roof.

I'm not 100% sure if he was over or not but after rushing out there, pushing it back over and giving it a jump start it started but wouldn't drive, it's busted a CV joint. How I'm not sure as it all seemed to be pretty straight bar the bodywork.

So I swiftly towed it up the road and got it to his house.

They were scared the AA would call the police and weren't sure if he was over or not.

My question is would I have got nicked for towing him should we have been pulled over?
Towed with a rope? Busted CV joint means the car is not roadworthy therefore shouldn't be tow with a rope. The person in the towed car is in charge of it so they would be prosecuted if over the limit.

I think.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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kambites said:
TooMany2cvs said:
kambites said:
As I understand the law, you would not be committing on offence; he would.
Causing or permitting him to be driving or attempting to drive while over the limit. DR14. Same penalty range as his DR10.
Ah OK. I never realised that was an offence.

I suppose it's one that doesn't come up very often. smile
Every licence offence code's got a +2 (Aiding, abetting, counselling, procuring), a +4 (causing, permitting) and a +6 (inciting) equivalent.
https://www.gov.uk/penalty-points-endorsements/end...

kambites

71,566 posts

251 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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I knew of some individual ones but I'd never made the connection with regards to the overall numbering scheme. smile

kmpowell

3,549 posts

258 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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hornetrider said:
Looking forward to this one.
hehe

The Mad Monk

11,549 posts

147 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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Josho said:
Forgetting the moral high ground for a second, last night my brother in law and his mate we're out driving in said mates wife's car.

They had fit brake pads to it then gone to the pub then came back and misjudged a bend in a lane and put it on it's roof.

I'm not 100% sure if he was over or not but after rushing out there, pushing it back over and giving it a jump start it started but wouldn't drive, it's busted a CV joint. How I'm not sure as it all seemed to be pretty straight bar the bodywork.

So I swiftly towed it up the road and got it to his house.

They were scared the AA would call the police and weren't sure if he was over or not.

My question is would I have got nicked for towing him should we have been pulled over?
Don't worry about it.

You would be far better off taking yourself down to the local Adult Education Centre and getting some English lessons, because you seem to be struggling at the moment.

I hope this helps.

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

203 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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No issue, he's an above average driver...............but obviously hangs around with below average dicks.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

165 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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Rolled a car and left the scene eh? What are the rules on leaving the scene of such a severe accident even if another vehicle isn't involved?

Sounds like your associates are both idiots to me.

INWB

896 posts

137 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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Josho said:
You'd think people would be grown up enough by 28.
Morons don't grow up. They don't have the intellectual capacity to. Let's hope he doesn't breed.

oakdale

2,001 posts

232 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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I'll bet his mates wife was pleased with the job.

kambites

71,566 posts

251 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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Axionknight said:
Rolled a car and left the scene eh? What are the rules on leaving the scene of such a severe accident even if another vehicle isn't involved?
Is there any requirement to report an accident if no third-party damage was caused and the car is immediately removed from the scene?