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Ston

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636 posts

299 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2005
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www.notsoaccurate.com/Page%201.htm

I heard about this a while ago, but didn't know of a site keeping track of the details.

So, for those that are interested, I have attached the URL. I did a quick search to see if this had been covered before and didn't see anything.

EDIT
Seems I missed this off the news section:
www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=10061


>>> Edited by Ston on Tuesday 22 March 15:17

beano500

20,854 posts

305 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2005
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Defendant responded by stating that HMS Titanic was also approved by the Government but sank in the North Atlantic soon after it was launched


busa_rush

6,930 posts

281 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2005
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He sounds likea really good bloke, but not somebody to live next door to.

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

264 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2005
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heh, thats a damn good read. I really hope he doesn't 'get away with it', but conclusively proves in front of the court, and the media, that the Gatso was very innaccurate.

Fantastic to see that there are still people who aren't prepared to have their rights trampled over.

autismuk

1,529 posts

270 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2005
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Don't forget your supporting statement.

(1) You believe in the empowerment of the customer viz a viz crime reduction.
(2) You have undergone 300 hours of racial awareness training.
(3) You enjoy filling forms in.
(4) You are good at making 1 + 2 = 4

But don't mention .....

(1) You want to catch criminals
(2) You want to stop crime

ultimasimon

9,646 posts

288 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2005
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Also covered last week here

This guy has his facts straight. Shame 'someone' has tampered with his evidence (ie re-calibrated the Gatso's that were wrong which he was going to use as evidence)

August is the big date to watch out for. I might even go along.

timsta

2,779 posts

276 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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Link from his site: http://publications.psdb.gov.uk/docs/psdb13-97.pdf


section 4.7 said:
...A visible sticker showing the date of calibration should be fixed to the meter.



Nice to know. Pity it will be inside the camera housing.

But just as much fun is section 4.9


section 4.9 said:
All equipment used for calibration shall be certified annually...



So when you ask to see the calibration cert for the camera don't forget to check that the equipment that it was calibrated with has been calibrated too.



>> Edited by timsta on Wednesday 23 March 09:46

Flat in Fifth

48,781 posts

281 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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Interesting section 7.6.1

7.6.1 General
The speedmeter shall be assessed by comparing its readings with a vehicle fitted with a speed measuring system having an accuracy of at least ±1 mph. Measurements at different speeds up to the maximum stated by the manufacturer shall be made.
Simulated speeds may be used for speeds above 120 mph.

The speedmeter shall give a positive error no larger than + 3 mph (or +3% above 100 mph) and a negative error of no greater than 5 mph or 10 % above 50 mph (see 8.2).
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Hmmmmmm accuracy need not be better than +3/-5mph. That is BEFORE the issues raised by Mr Edgar, very interesting.

TheLemming

4,319 posts

295 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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This makes VERY interesting, though mildly terrifying reading.

The net result appears to be that one can be effectively blanked, ignored and silenced - even where following (and I'm assuming that he is) the correct legal procedures.

Perhaps it would make more sense for him to drive through a camera in a 30 limit at 40, get the speeding charge re-instated and pursue from there. Rather than attempt to fight an S172 issue which it appears is taking him further and further away from the core case he has built.

Then again I view the whole S172 thing as far more serious... and that is a can of worms opened many many times here so perhaps this isnt the place for me to re-open it.