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Trackdayer

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1,090 posts

70 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Witnessed this a couple of days ago. Around 60mph. Tow rope not even taut the whole time.



Andeh1

7,594 posts

235 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Was it is done by choice or emergency?

roddo

584 posts

224 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Van has at best a 2t towing capacity and the bus weighs around 5t......if not more

gazza285

11,134 posts

237 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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roddo said:
Van has at best a 2t towing capacity and the bus weighs around 5t......if not more
Towing capacity will be for a tow bar. Tow limits do not apply, as the bus has brakes independent of the towing vehicle.

The speed might be ill advised, but not illegal.

monthou

5,340 posts

79 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Trackdayer said:
Tow rope not even taut the whole time.
Keeping a tow rope taut the whole time would be a neat trick.

48k

17,378 posts

177 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Were the wheels on the bus going round and round ?

Easternlight

3,925 posts

173 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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48k said:
Were the wheels on the bus going round and round ?
Have a rofl

J__Wood

578 posts

90 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Easternlight said:
48k said:
Were the wheels on the bus going round and round ?
Have a rofl
"The horn on the bus goes beep, beep, beep"
when the driver realises the tow rope's not taut and they are doing 60.

I'd also guess
"the driver on the bus goes beep, beep ,beep
when he realise the power steering is no longer powered
and the steering wheel won't go round, round, round"


Edited by J__Wood on Saturday 10th July 20:25

Trackdayer

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1,090 posts

70 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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monthou said:
Keeping a tow rope taut the whole time would be a neat trick.
Not really, just a very gentle application of the brakes on the vehicle being towed does it.

Trackdayer

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70 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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anonymous said:
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Not that I could see

monthou

5,340 posts

79 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Trackdayer said:
monthou said:
Keeping a tow rope taut the whole time would be a neat trick.
Not really, just a very gentle application of the brakes on the vehicle being towed does it.
If you say so.

Trackdayer

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1,090 posts

70 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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monthou said:
If you say so.
Towing vehicle providing motive power + Towed vehicle has slight rolling resistance = Rope taut = Smooth tow.

Not rocket science is it rolleyes

roddo

584 posts

224 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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gazza285 said:
Towing capacity will be for a tow bar. Tow limits do not apply, as the bus has brakes independent of the towing vehicle.

The speed might be ill advised, but not illegal.
A trailer also has independent brakes but that doesn't make it right to pull/tow over manufacturers limits.

dhutch

17,723 posts

226 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Is it me or is this just a recovery tow?

Chances it was actually 60mph, low to middling.

monthou

5,340 posts

79 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Trackdayer said:
monthou said:
If you say so.
Towing vehicle providing motive power + Towed vehicle has slight rolling resistance = Rope taut = Smooth tow.

Not rocket science is it rolleyes
It's not. But having towed and been towed for fair distances in the distant past I know theory and practice are different. If you keep your brakes on mile after mile you're in a small club.

dhutch

17,723 posts

226 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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monthou said:
It's not. But having towed and been towed for fair distances in the distant past I know theory and practice are different. If you keep your brakes on mile after mile you're in a small club.
And proberbly one with zero overlap to having ever recovered a midi coach with a van.

Sebring440

3,203 posts

125 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Trackdayer said:
monthou said:
Keeping a tow rope taut the whole time would be a neat trick.
Not really, just a very gentle application of the brakes on the vehicle being towed does it.
laugh

rofl

SLCZ3

1,293 posts

234 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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My my, basic driving skills and commonsense needed, keep the tow wire/rope taut, by using drag of the car being towed, the towing car should also slow the towing car down when approaching any stop situation, this is rather obvious to anyone who has experience of non power assisted steering/braking etc.

I do remember seeing a situation many years ago on the M1 where the car being towed by rope was actually overtaking the tow vehicle as i passed them both, no idea what happened as i was more concerned with my own situation due to the high volume of traffic at the time.

MissChief

7,984 posts

197 months

Sunday 11th July 2021
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I got overtaken several times on my 900 mile round trip on Friday by 4x4's towing trailers. I was doing 70ish and it happened twice at least.

monthou

5,340 posts

79 months

Sunday 11th July 2021
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MissChief said:
I got overtaken several times on my 900 mile round trip on Friday by 4x4's towing trailers. I was doing 70ish and it happened twice at least.
Were they using tow ropes?