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Depends upon the circumstances. I was pulled in February for 109 on the A3 (motorway 70 limit) between the M25 and Guildford. I too had a clean license and the traffic conditions and weather were both good. I went to court in Guildford on Friday and was given a 21 day ban and fine dropped from £1000 to £650 for an early plea of guilt. I needed my car for work and my wife is expecting a baby later in the summer so pleaded that I may need to rush her to hospital at any point. I guess I feel fairly lucky with what I was given. All the best of luck to him!
esselte said:
Hoping it never happens to me, but what happens with a ban like this? Do you have 12 nice little points on the licence for 3 years? Or this that just for totting up?
I think if you get a ban then the points go? I am probably wrong.
Yeah it's points or ban, not both.
Currently waiting on my summons for 110mph on the M4...
justinp1 said:
If he represents himself in court, in clean shaven, smartly dressed and polite, explains his clean licence and uncharacteristic error he may get away with 6 points. and a £200 fine.
Absolutely agree. But what a state of affairs? It's only 102 in a 70 FFS, the lengths we have to go to... I find it sickening how good tax-paying citizens are treated like scum and having to go cap in hand to a magistrate for something trivial like this.
And all the time shop lifters, rapists, burglars, druggies, all sorts of proper scum come waltzing into court having done proper crime -- I mean crime involving victims -- dressed like cr@p getting a punishment worth zero to them.
Sorry, I'll get back off my high horse. Sympathies to your mate for being treated like this for doing nothing of significance...
SM
supermono said:
justinp1 said:
If he represents himself in court, in clean shaven, smartly dressed and polite, explains his clean licence and uncharacteristic error he may get away with 6 points. and a £200 fine.
Absolutely agree. But what a state of affairs? It's only 102 in a 70 FFS, the lengths we have to go to... I find it sickening how good tax-paying citizens are treated like scum and having to go cap in hand to a magistrate for something trivial like this.
And all the time shop lifters, rapists, burglars, druggies, all sorts of proper scum come waltzing into court having done proper crime -- I mean crime involving victims -- dressed like cr@p getting a punishment worth zero to them.
Sorry, I'll get back off my high horse. Sympathies to your mate for being treated like this for doing nothing of significance...
SM
No apologies necessary my friend. I entirely agree with you. I clocked 105 in a 60 last night, and to hell with it.
Safety matters.
The wretched NSL does not. 
I say live a little while you can, but do take care, please.
Edited to clarify that this was a normal single carriageway NSL type 60 limit, nothing to do with roadworks or special situations of that sort.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
Edited by TripleS on Tuesday 6th June 15:53
I know a chap who received an automatic 2 week ban for 98 in a 60 limit. He phoned his insurers and told them he'd been banned for 2 weeks, but had no points. They said, "That's OK sir, we don't record bans of less than a month."
So if you get a short ban it may have less significant consequences.
So if you get a short ban it may have less significant consequences.
TripleS said:
supermono said:
justinp1 said:
If he represents himself in court, in clean shaven, smartly dressed and polite, explains his clean licence and uncharacteristic error he may get away with 6 points. and a £200 fine.
Absolutely agree. But what a state of affairs? It's only 102 in a 70 FFS, the lengths we have to go to... I find it sickening how good tax-paying citizens are treated like scum and having to go cap in hand to a magistrate for something trivial like this.
And all the time shop lifters, rapists, burglars, druggies, all sorts of proper scum come waltzing into court having done proper crime -- I mean crime involving victims -- dressed like cr@p getting a punishment worth zero to them.
Sorry, I'll get back off my high horse. Sympathies to your mate for being treated like this for doing nothing of significance...
SM
No apologies necessary my friend. I entirely agree with you. I clocked 105 in a 60 last night, and to hell with it.
Safety matters.
The wretched NSL does not. SECONDED!
It's simply not good enough to be prosecuted, willy nilly because of some abstract figure dreamt up by a bunch of ladies who lunched, 30 odd years ago.
Like everything else in this modern age, leftist dogma demands everything is defined by the lowliest denominator.
I spit in the general direction of the law and continue to arm myself so that my dash resembles what used to lie before Mr Sulu aboard The Enterprise.
Road Angel Navigator: check.
Road Angel Plus: check.
Bell Euro 550: check.
Hoardes of plebia lining the m-way at 800 yard intervals: check.
Masonic handshakes rehearsed: check.
Fresh doughnuts, just in case stopped by LAPD: chomped.
TripleS said:
supermono said:
justinp1 said:
If he represents himself in court, in clean shaven, smartly dressed and polite, explains his clean licence and uncharacteristic error he may get away with 6 points. and a £200 fine.
Absolutely agree. But what a state of affairs? It's only 102 in a 70 FFS, the lengths we have to go to... I find it sickening how good tax-paying citizens are treated like scum and having to go cap in hand to a magistrate for something trivial like this.
And all the time shop lifters, rapists, burglars, druggies, all sorts of proper scum come waltzing into court having done proper crime -- I mean crime involving victims -- dressed like cr@p getting a punishment worth zero to them.
Sorry, I'll get back off my high horse. Sympathies to your mate for being treated like this for doing nothing of significance...
SM
No apologies necessary my friend. I entirely agree with you. I clocked 105 in a 60 last night, and to hell with it.
Safety matters.
The wretched NSL does not. I say live a little while you can, but do take care, please.
Edited to clarify that this was a normal single carriageway NSL type 60 limit, nothing to do with roadworks or special situations of that sort.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
Edited by TripleS on Tuesday 6th June 15:53
Spot on.
derestrictor said:
TripleS said:
supermono said:
justinp1 said:
If he represents himself in court, in clean shaven, smartly dressed and polite, explains his clean licence and uncharacteristic error he may get away with 6 points. and a £200 fine.
Absolutely agree. But what a state of affairs? It's only 102 in a 70 FFS, the lengths we have to go to... I find it sickening how good tax-paying citizens are treated like scum and having to go cap in hand to a magistrate for something trivial like this.
And all the time shop lifters, rapists, burglars, druggies, all sorts of proper scum come waltzing into court having done proper crime -- I mean crime involving victims -- dressed like cr@p getting a punishment worth zero to them.
Sorry, I'll get back off my high horse. Sympathies to your mate for being treated like this for doing nothing of significance...
SM
No apologies necessary my friend. I entirely agree with you. I clocked 105 in a 60 last night, and to hell with it.
Safety matters.
The wretched NSL does not. SECONDED!
It's simply not good enough to be prosecuted, willy nilly because of some abstract figure dreamt up by a bunch of ladies who lunched, 30 odd years ago.
Like everything else in this modern age, leftist dogma demands everything is defined by the lowliest denominator.
I spit in the general direction of the law and continue to arm myself so that my dash resembles what used to lie before Mr Sulu aboard The Enterprise.
Road Angel Navigator: check.
Road Angel Plus: check.
Bell Euro 550: check.
Hoardes of plebia lining the m-way at 800 yard intervals: check.
Masonic handshakes rehearsed: check.
Fresh doughnuts, just in case stopped by LAPD: chomped.
excellent response Respect
Many years ago my clean license and myself were in the mag. court for 102 on a deserted M11 motorway at 5.30am. I was given 28 days ban, £200 fine AND 6 points on my license.
The points never appeared though. Mags. obviously did not understand the rules regarding banning and points - clerk of the court never bothered to correct them but told me after, " don't worry there will be no points on your license"..
The points never appeared though. Mags. obviously did not understand the rules regarding banning and points - clerk of the court never bothered to correct them but told me after, " don't worry there will be no points on your license"..
Edited by Philbes on Monday 7th August 22:13
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