Police watchdog to investigate claims woman was raped
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Police watchdog to investigate claims woman was raped in police custody
Zayna Iman claims she was drugged and raped in a police cell in February 2021
This has to be pretty shocking and with evidence as well that seems to back up her claim.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/police...
Zayna Iman claims she was drugged and raped in a police cell in February 2021
This has to be pretty shocking and with evidence as well that seems to back up her claim.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/police...
Edited by Cockaigne on Friday 4th August 18:19
pavarotti1980 said:
What evidence backs up her claims?
''Ms Iman's allegation is supported by her medical records which show evidence of sexual injuries.She has also shared her concerns with former GMP chief superintendent Martin Harding, who has seen the available footage and the glaring inconsistencies with the custody log, and said her claims are credible.''
https://news.sky.com/story/police-watchdog-launche...
vonhosen said:
Good thing that it'll be investigated.
weird it has taken 2 years and the alleged victim having to make a lot of noise. Very strange situation with massive ramifications if true.interview with her.
NSFW very traumatic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zawi-DOG41M
A chat with Zayna and her ordeal with Greater Manchester police.
Edited by Cockaigne on Friday 4th August 20:25
I suspect if she was behaving the way I have seen in the cctv shown on sky news that someone would have been watching her constantly via the CCTV, known as level 3 observation.
I manage a large city centre custody suite and her claims to have drugged and raped whilst in her cell seem implausible to me based on years of experience.
I am curious to see how all of this pans out. Maybe it did happen as she states however I will be shocked if it did.
It’s also interesting how the independent mentions that she may have suffered a psychotic episode from having the date rape drug? Is there any forensic evidence to back this bold assertion of could it perhaps be linked to the use of cocaine given sky initially reported that the police were called to a concern for a woman who hat been using cocaine?
I manage a large city centre custody suite and her claims to have drugged and raped whilst in her cell seem implausible to me based on years of experience.
I am curious to see how all of this pans out. Maybe it did happen as she states however I will be shocked if it did.
It’s also interesting how the independent mentions that she may have suffered a psychotic episode from having the date rape drug? Is there any forensic evidence to back this bold assertion of could it perhaps be linked to the use of cocaine given sky initially reported that the police were called to a concern for a woman who hat been using cocaine?
Edited by ED209 on Friday 4th August 21:21
Cockaigne said:
''Ms Iman's allegation is supported by her medical records which show evidence of sexual injuries.
She has also shared her concerns with former GMP chief superintendent Martin Harding, who has seen the available footage and the glaring inconsistencies with the custody log, and said her claims are credible.''
https://news.sky.com/story/police-watchdog-launche...
Is that actual evidence it was the police?She has also shared her concerns with former GMP chief superintendent Martin Harding, who has seen the available footage and the glaring inconsistencies with the custody log, and said her claims are credible.''
https://news.sky.com/story/police-watchdog-launche...
ED209 said:
I suspect if she was behaving the way I have seen in the cctv shown on sky news that someone would have been watching her constantly via the CCTV, known as level 3 observation.
I manage a large city centre custody suite and her claims to have drugged and raped whilst in her cell seem implausible to me based on years of experience.
I am curious to see how all of this pans out. Maybe it did happen as she states however I will be shocked if it did.
It’s also interesting how the independent mentions that she may have suffered a psychotic episode from having the date rape drug? Is there any forensic evidence to back this bold assertion of could it perhaps be linked to the use of cocaine given sky initially reported that the police were called to a concern for a woman who hat been using cocaine?
I'm sure they said on sky news how 3 hours of cctv footage was missing I manage a large city centre custody suite and her claims to have drugged and raped whilst in her cell seem implausible to me based on years of experience.
I am curious to see how all of this pans out. Maybe it did happen as she states however I will be shocked if it did.
It’s also interesting how the independent mentions that she may have suffered a psychotic episode from having the date rape drug? Is there any forensic evidence to back this bold assertion of could it perhaps be linked to the use of cocaine given sky initially reported that the police were called to a concern for a woman who hat been using cocaine?
Edited by ED209 on Friday 4th August 21:21
limmy01 said:
ED209 said:
I suspect if she was behaving the way I have seen in the cctv shown on sky news that someone would have been watching her constantly via the CCTV, known as level 3 observation.
I manage a large city centre custody suite and her claims to have drugged and raped whilst in her cell seem implausible to me based on years of experience.
I am curious to see how all of this pans out. Maybe it did happen as she states however I will be shocked if it did.
It’s also interesting how the independent mentions that she may have suffered a psychotic episode from having the date rape drug? Is there any forensic evidence to back this bold assertion of could it perhaps be linked to the use of cocaine given sky initially reported that the police were called to a concern for a woman who hat been using cocaine?
I'm sure they said on sky news how 3 hours of cctv footage was missing I manage a large city centre custody suite and her claims to have drugged and raped whilst in her cell seem implausible to me based on years of experience.
I am curious to see how all of this pans out. Maybe it did happen as she states however I will be shocked if it did.
It’s also interesting how the independent mentions that she may have suffered a psychotic episode from having the date rape drug? Is there any forensic evidence to back this bold assertion of could it perhaps be linked to the use of cocaine given sky initially reported that the police were called to a concern for a woman who hat been using cocaine?
Edited by ED209 on Friday 4th August 21:21
There are two one hour segments missing, one mid morning and one lunch time the following day, both times when the custody office would be busy
Having read a bit about this case it does seem that there are some concerns re welfare and custody procedures and around her fitness to be detained
I am not however convinced that her account of being drugged and raped within a modern custody cell block will bare up to scrutiny
She was clearly in a very distressed and psychotic state and I’d suggest should have been in a hospital environment not a custody suite
Most likely to least likely -
She was drugged and SA before her friend called for help
She took drugs and caused the injuries to her self
She was drugged and SA in Police Custody.
Either/or is horrific and I understand that she's looking for answers, just not sure it's in the right place.
It concerns me how many people have already condemned the Police despite there being no evidence to support her allegations.
Almost everything, apart from the corrupted footage has been explained.
Her initial complaint back on 2021 was that she was SA, you'd have thought the first investigation would have highlighted hours of missing footage.
She was drugged and SA before her friend called for help
She took drugs and caused the injuries to her self
She was drugged and SA in Police Custody.
Either/or is horrific and I understand that she's looking for answers, just not sure it's in the right place.
It concerns me how many people have already condemned the Police despite there being no evidence to support her allegations.
Almost everything, apart from the corrupted footage has been explained.
Her initial complaint back on 2021 was that she was SA, you'd have thought the first investigation would have highlighted hours of missing footage.
Nibbles_bits said:
Most likely to least likely -
She was drugged and SA before her friend called for help
She took drugs and caused the injuries to her self
She was drugged and SA in Police Custody.
Either/or is horrific and I understand that she's looking for answers, just not sure it's in the right place.
It concerns me how many people have already condemned the Police despite there being no evidence to support her allegations.
Almost everything, apart from the corrupted footage has been explained.
Her initial complaint back on 2021 was that she was SA, you'd have thought the first investigation would have highlighted hours of missing footage.
The problem is that doesn't tie up with the video of when she entered. Bleeding from both passages. The whole thing is very messed up.She was drugged and SA before her friend called for help
She took drugs and caused the injuries to her self
She was drugged and SA in Police Custody.
Either/or is horrific and I understand that she's looking for answers, just not sure it's in the right place.
It concerns me how many people have already condemned the Police despite there being no evidence to support her allegations.
Almost everything, apart from the corrupted footage has been explained.
Her initial complaint back on 2021 was that she was SA, you'd have thought the first investigation would have highlighted hours of missing footage.
That's not the case.
There's CCTV from when she enters Custody until 09:48 on 5/2. The footage then starts again at 11:00.
The next discrepancy is from 1am 6/2 to 2am 6/2.
Her claim is that she was SA on 5/2.
She claims the footage at 1am 6/2 is of her discovering her injuries.
So by her admission, she believes the SA took place between 09:48 05/02 and 01:00 06/02.
She doesn't give any details on what she was doing between 11:00 - 01:00. This is despite this footage being available.
So we're led to believe that the SA took place in a 1 hour wondow (just over). I wonder what her detention log says in the missing time, because she's not released that.
There's CCTV from when she enters Custody until 09:48 on 5/2. The footage then starts again at 11:00.
The next discrepancy is from 1am 6/2 to 2am 6/2.
Her claim is that she was SA on 5/2.
She claims the footage at 1am 6/2 is of her discovering her injuries.
So by her admission, she believes the SA took place between 09:48 05/02 and 01:00 06/02.
She doesn't give any details on what she was doing between 11:00 - 01:00. This is despite this footage being available.
So we're led to believe that the SA took place in a 1 hour wondow (just over). I wonder what her detention log says in the missing time, because she's not released that.
Nibbles_bits said:
That's not the case.
There's CCTV from when she enters Custody until 09:48 on 5/2. The footage then starts again at 11:00.
The next discrepancy is from 1am 6/2 to 2am 6/2.
Her claim is that she was SA on 5/2.
She claims the footage at 1am 6/2 is of her discovering her injuries.
So by her admission, she believes the SA took place between 09:48 05/02 and 01:00 06/02.
She doesn't give any details on what she was doing between 11:00 - 01:00. This is despite this footage being available.
So we're led to believe that the SA took place in a 1 hour wondow (just over). I wonder what her detention log says in the missing time, because she's not released that.
The cctv was recorded in one hour segments on discs There's CCTV from when she enters Custody until 09:48 on 5/2. The footage then starts again at 11:00.
The next discrepancy is from 1am 6/2 to 2am 6/2.
Her claim is that she was SA on 5/2.
She claims the footage at 1am 6/2 is of her discovering her injuries.
So by her admission, she believes the SA took place between 09:48 05/02 and 01:00 06/02.
She doesn't give any details on what she was doing between 11:00 - 01:00. This is despite this footage being available.
So we're led to believe that the SA took place in a 1 hour wondow (just over). I wonder what her detention log says in the missing time, because she's not released that.
She was in custody for at least two days so that is 48 discs ( at least )
Two of the discs were corrupted when subsequently viewed
The first missing hour is on 5/2/21 from 1000-1059hrs
The 2nd missing hour is not as you state in the middle of the night it is on 6/2/21 between 1300-1359 hrs
Earthdweller said:
Nibbles_bits said:
That's not the case.
There's CCTV from when she enters Custody until 09:48 on 5/2. The footage then starts again at 11:00.
The next discrepancy is from 1am 6/2 to 2am 6/2.
Her claim is that she was SA on 5/2.
She claims the footage at 1am 6/2 is of her discovering her injuries.
So by her admission, she believes the SA took place between 09:48 05/02 and 01:00 06/02.
She doesn't give any details on what she was doing between 11:00 - 01:00. This is despite this footage being available.
So we're led to believe that the SA took place in a 1 hour wondow (just over). I wonder what her detention log says in the missing time, because she's not released that.
The cctv was recorded in one hour segments on discs There's CCTV from when she enters Custody until 09:48 on 5/2. The footage then starts again at 11:00.
The next discrepancy is from 1am 6/2 to 2am 6/2.
Her claim is that she was SA on 5/2.
She claims the footage at 1am 6/2 is of her discovering her injuries.
So by her admission, she believes the SA took place between 09:48 05/02 and 01:00 06/02.
She doesn't give any details on what she was doing between 11:00 - 01:00. This is despite this footage being available.
So we're led to believe that the SA took place in a 1 hour wondow (just over). I wonder what her detention log says in the missing time, because she's not released that.
She was in custody for at least two days so that is 48 discs ( at least )
Two of the discs were corrupted when subsequently viewed
The first missing hour is on 5/2/21 from 1000-1059hrs
The 2nd missing hour is not as you state in the middle of the night it is on 6/2/21 between 1300-1359 hrs
Don’t take cocaine and then these things won’t happen ( allegedly)
And don’t phone the Police after
I’m amazed at how people straight away want to assume the Police are the guilty party on the flimsiest of evidence.
Who the hell knows what happened but to leave it 2 yrs is in itself odd.
And don’t phone the Police after
I’m amazed at how people straight away want to assume the Police are the guilty party on the flimsiest of evidence.
Who the hell knows what happened but to leave it 2 yrs is in itself odd.
Edited by DaveA8 on Saturday 5th August 19:49
Earthdweller said:
Nibbles_bits said:
That's not the case.
There's CCTV from when she enters Custody until 09:48 on 5/2. The footage then starts again at 11:00.
The next discrepancy is from 1am 6/2 to 2am 6/2.
Her claim is that she was SA on 5/2.
She claims the footage at 1am 6/2 is of her discovering her injuries.
So by her admission, she believes the SA took place between 09:48 05/02 and 01:00 06/02.
She doesn't give any details on what she was doing between 11:00 - 01:00. This is despite this footage being available.
So we're led to believe that the SA took place in a 1 hour wondow (just over). I wonder what her detention log says in the missing time, because she's not released that.
The cctv was recorded in one hour segments on discs There's CCTV from when she enters Custody until 09:48 on 5/2. The footage then starts again at 11:00.
The next discrepancy is from 1am 6/2 to 2am 6/2.
Her claim is that she was SA on 5/2.
She claims the footage at 1am 6/2 is of her discovering her injuries.
So by her admission, she believes the SA took place between 09:48 05/02 and 01:00 06/02.
She doesn't give any details on what she was doing between 11:00 - 01:00. This is despite this footage being available.
So we're led to believe that the SA took place in a 1 hour wondow (just over). I wonder what her detention log says in the missing time, because she's not released that.
She was in custody for at least two days so that is 48 discs ( at least )
Two of the discs were corrupted when subsequently viewed
The first missing hour is on 5/2/21 from 1000-1059hrs
The 2nd missing hour is not as you state in the middle of the night it is on 6/2/21 between 1300-1359 hrs
"At 1am on 6 February, Ms Iman appears to point at what look like bloodstains on a bench. Nearly 12 hours later, she’s completely naked and looks up at the camera, before the screen blanks again. The police have not shared footage of the next hour with her either."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/greate...
jm doc said:
Earthdweller said:
Nibbles_bits said:
That's not the case.
There's CCTV from when she enters Custody until 09:48 on 5/2. The footage then starts again at 11:00.
The next discrepancy is from 1am 6/2 to 2am 6/2.
Her claim is that she was SA on 5/2.
She claims the footage at 1am 6/2 is of her discovering her injuries.
So by her admission, she believes the SA took place between 09:48 05/02 and 01:00 06/02.
She doesn't give any details on what she was doing between 11:00 - 01:00. This is despite this footage being available.
So we're led to believe that the SA took place in a 1 hour wondow (just over). I wonder what her detention log says in the missing time, because she's not released that.
The cctv was recorded in one hour segments on discs There's CCTV from when she enters Custody until 09:48 on 5/2. The footage then starts again at 11:00.
The next discrepancy is from 1am 6/2 to 2am 6/2.
Her claim is that she was SA on 5/2.
She claims the footage at 1am 6/2 is of her discovering her injuries.
So by her admission, she believes the SA took place between 09:48 05/02 and 01:00 06/02.
She doesn't give any details on what she was doing between 11:00 - 01:00. This is despite this footage being available.
So we're led to believe that the SA took place in a 1 hour wondow (just over). I wonder what her detention log says in the missing time, because she's not released that.
She was in custody for at least two days so that is 48 discs ( at least )
Two of the discs were corrupted when subsequently viewed
The first missing hour is on 5/2/21 from 1000-1059hrs
The 2nd missing hour is not as you state in the middle of the night it is on 6/2/21 between 1300-1359 hrs
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