Speed camera flashed on M1
Speed camera flashed on M1
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RANz1

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2 posts

2 months

Monday 30th June
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I was driving back to London last and flashed by speed camera on M1. I was 57-62 mph on 50 mph speed limit on screen. I'm a new driver am i going to lose my license for that?

lancslad58

1,352 posts

24 months

Monday 30th June
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You're going to have to wait and see.

Ezra

790 posts

43 months

Monday 30th June
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Speeding up to 65mph in a 50 zone would get you 3 points and a fine (unless you're offered a speed awareness course). Assuming you have a clean licence now and are a new driver I can't see any circumstances where you'd lose your licence. I suspect you insurance will go through the roof, but your licence should be safe.

ADJimbo

634 posts

202 months

Monday 30th June
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RANz1 said:
I was driving back to London last and flashed by speed camera on M1. I was 57-62 mph on 50 mph speed limit on screen. I'm a new driver am i going to lose my license for that?
If you were reading 62/50 then at worst you’ve got £100 and three points incoming. You won’t lose your licence.

The cut off for a SAC will be somewhere early 60’s so you might be lucky to avoid the points.

That said, your car speedo will over-read as it’s not calibrated so what you’re seeing on your dash, might not be your true speed. You may have been flashed but upon the viewer viewing, you may have been within the Force / ACPO guidelines and it’ll be NFA’d.

It’s going to be squeaky-bum time for the next few days but it’s not the end of the world. Key thing is - learn from it.

The Gauge

5,016 posts

29 months

Monday 30th June
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I recently got flashed on the M1 for doing 58 in a 50, having a clean licence meant I was offered a motorway driving course which I have now booked on.
I think that new drivers in their first 2 yrs have their licence cancelled if they get 6 points or more and have to resit their test

Edited by The Gauge on Monday 30th June 21:12

Weejus

57 posts

7 months

Monday 30th June
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Whatever the variable speed limit sign is informing, do not exceed this by about 5mph or else you will be in trouble...speaking from experience a few times over the years on the M1 and M42

Driversmatter

219 posts

109 months

Tuesday 1st July
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Between 51-64 you SHOULD be offered national motorway course. It'll help your driving immensely. Get it booked if you're offered.

BertBert

20,383 posts

227 months

Tuesday 1st July
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The Gauge said:
I recently got flashed on the M1 for doing 58 in a 50, having a clean licence meant I was offered a motorway driving course which I have now booked on.
I think that new drivers in their first 2 yrs have their licence cancelled if they get 6 points or more and have to resit their test

Edited by The Gauge on Monday 30th June 21:12
You don't need a clean licence to be offered a SAC

agtlaw

7,168 posts

222 months

Wednesday 2nd July
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BertBert said:
The Gauge said:
I recently got flashed on the M1 for doing 58 in a 50, having a clean licence meant I was offered a motorway driving course which I have now booked on.
I think that new drivers in their first 2 yrs have their licence cancelled if they get 6 points or more and have to resit their test
You don't need a clean licence to be offered a SAC
Or NMAC.

BertBert

20,383 posts

227 months

Wednesday 2nd July
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agtlaw said:
BertBert said:
The Gauge said:
I recently got flashed on the M1 for doing 58 in a 50, having a clean licence meant I was offered a motorway driving course which I have now booked on.
I think that new drivers in their first 2 yrs have their licence cancelled if they get 6 points or more and have to resit their test
You don't need a clean licence to be offered a SAC
Or NMAC.
Really?

ETA NDORS has 7 driver education courses, each has an acronym, none of which are SAC. So it's not beyond the wit of man to work out that the reference to SAC is a perfectly usable generic term for a driver education course. Thus not needing pedantic correction.

Edited by BertBert on Wednesday 2nd July 17:58

agtlaw

7,168 posts

222 months

Wednesday 2nd July
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Really.

Furbo

1,472 posts

48 months

Wednesday 2nd July
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RANz1 said:
I was driving back to London last and flashed by speed camera on M1. I was 57-62 mph on 50 mph speed limit on screen. I'm a new driver am i going to lose my license for that?
Where was this?

I was on the M1 last night, coming back from Luton, and there was a speed camera towards the bottom of the M1 flashing merrily at everything, despite the traffic flow being 75 ish.

An aside, this was 01:30 and traffic was light. But every so often we had variable speed limits down to 60 or 50 for a few hundred meters, before getting NSL again. Nothing at all to see.

Then there were roadworks with no reduced speed limit, which made me suspicious. More so, when the end of the roadworks had a NSL sign.

Driving on our motorways is stressful.


Ian Geary

5,032 posts

208 months

Wednesday 2nd July
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BertBert said:
agtlaw said:
BertBert said:
The Gauge said:
I recently got flashed on the M1 for doing 58 in a 50, having a clean licence meant I was offered a motorway driving course which I have now booked on.
I think that new drivers in their first 2 yrs have their licence cancelled if they get 6 points or more and have to resit their test
You don't need a clean licence to be offered a SAC
Or NMAC.
Really?
People might be talking at cross purposes here.

One of the requirement to be offered a course is that you have not done one already, or in other words, not been caught speeding already (within a time frame that is irrelevant for a new driver).

So you need a licence that is "clean" of speeding points: but not necessarily "clean" of non speed related offences.

I'm sure making that distinction clear will really help this new driver during their wait for a brown envelope.

balham123

86 posts

15 months

Wednesday 2nd July
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RANz1 said:
I was driving back to London last and flashed by speed camera on M1. I was 57-62 mph on 50 mph speed limit on screen. I'm a new driver am i going to lose my license for that?
Gov.uk
"New drivers

If you’re still within 2 years of passing your driving test, your driving licence will be revoked (withdrawn) if you build up 6 or more penalty points."




If by new driver, you mean under 2 years?, Have you got any points already?

agtlaw

7,168 posts

222 months

Wednesday 2nd July
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Ian Geary said:
One of the requirements to be offered a course is that you have not done THE SAME COURSE ...
EFA.

Not an issue to do both the NMAC (e.g. 57/50 mph) and a NSAC (e.g. 35/30).

It isn't pedantry. That's lazy thinking.


2020vision

527 posts

12 months

Wednesday 2nd July
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Ian Geary said:
People might be talking at cross purposes here.

One of the requirement to be offered a course is that you have not done one already, or in other words, not been caught speeding already (within a time frame that is irrelevant for a new driver).

So you need a licence that is "clean" of speeding points: but not necessarily "clean" of non speed related offences.

I'm sure making that distinction clear will really help this new driver during their wait for a brown envelope.
You can have 9 speeding points,3 as a new driver, and still do a course as long as you have not done the course offered in the previous 3 years.

So no, you don’t need a licence clean of speeding points.

TheDrownedApe

1,443 posts

72 months

Wednesday 2nd July
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agtlaw said:
Really.
Come on AGT, newbie just wants an answer to a obvious incident that no search engine or AI assis could have provided in far less time.

agtlaw

7,168 posts

222 months

Wednesday 2nd July
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RANz1 said:
I was driving back to London last and flashed by speed camera on M1. I was 57-62 mph on 50 mph speed limit on screen. I'm a new driver am i going to lose my licence for that?
Have you ever done a course?

How many points do you have?

62/50 mph on a motorway is usually a motorway course (NMAC). Otherwise, a £100 fixed penalty with 3 points.

Somewhatfoolish

4,899 posts

202 months

Thursday 3rd July
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For future ref OP the cameras on the M1 are in two types but both have cameras before the pylon the cameras are on which is much easier to spot than the cameras themselves which despite being yellow are sometimes in trees etc. Mostly this takes the form of three cameras on a stick, but there is another form (in the "middle section" of the M1) where it's more like a cube on a stick. Learn to look out for these (n.b. they are NOT yellow).

Andy86GT

674 posts

81 months

Thursday 3rd July
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Furbo said:
RANz1 said:
I was driving back to London last and flashed by speed camera on M1. I was 57-62 mph on 50 mph speed limit on screen. I'm a new driver am i going to lose my license for that?
Driving on our motorways is stressful.
Where these variable limits are I couldn't agree more.
Your eyes are glued to the overhead gantries in case they suddenly change to a lower limit, and when they do and you slow down you usually then have an 18 wheeler about a 10mm from your rear bumper.