Insurance flag for Non Claim on Vehicle Recovery Request
Insurance flag for Non Claim on Vehicle Recovery Request
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mightymoose

Original Poster:

6 posts

71 months

Sunday 13th July
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Hi All,

Wife went over a small hump in the road earlier today which managed to snap one of her front springs meaning the car was therefore immobile and couldnt be driven home.

We have no concern over the legallity of the speed bump in the road as its really not that big, but more rather that followed with our request to our AA breakdown cover covered by our insurance.

On calling the AA via our insurance phone line, we were told that due to the damage being caused by a traffic calming feature on the road, they were unable to recover the vehicle and would put us through to our insurance to deal with as the AA or insruance classed this as a collision. On being transfered i was told that in order to be recovered it would count as a claim against our policy, and now, due to the fact that we have told them of this so called collision, it would now be a flag on our insurance going forward. I did request over the phone of this was likely to impact future premiums but the phone operator couldnt comment, only that it was noted down on our policy now.

In the end we didnt end up using the insurance or breakdown cover to get the vehicle home and did so by other means.

I probably wont know until next May when our policy is due for renewal if this will direclty impact our premiums, but im slightly confused by where i stand legally. Ive bought a financial product where looking through the documentation its doesnt specify what an "Accident" or "Collision" is, and it doesnt include anything around driving over a feature on a public highway, and on this instance, they have refused to provide the breakdown recovery, and instead put it down as an incident on our policy record.

With the AA/Insurance logic, surely most drivers on a daily basis have an Accident/Collision everytime they go over a speed hump or traffic calming feature?


Evanivitch

24,694 posts

138 months

Sunday 13th July
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A flat tyre must be a collision too?

Ask them to determine who the other party was so that they can be informed of the collision. I'm sure the council will be happy to know someone went over a speed bump.

Mad Maximus

630 posts

19 months

Sunday 13th July
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Tossers. You need to be very wary of how you word incidents to breakdown businesses. We’ve come a cropper to this once before as well.

mightymoose

Original Poster:

6 posts

71 months

Sunday 13th July
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Yeh lesson learnt going forward for both me and my wife, better to say something broke on smooth flat asphalt rather than actually telling the full story.

ScoobyChris

2,010 posts

218 months

Sunday 13th July
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mightymoose said:
With the AA/Insurance logic, surely most drivers on a daily basis have an Accident/Collision everytime they go over a speed hump or traffic calming feature?
I guess the difference is that the insurers don’t know about it because most people (the small number who manage to damage their cars) don’t call their insurers for something like this?

Chris


bennno

13,950 posts

285 months

Sunday 13th July
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Are you sure it broke by collision with a speed hump, or had it simply failed due to age / manufacturing defect and you simply noticed it whilst going over a speed hump?

Leading the witness…. Think carefully op.

BertBert

20,384 posts

227 months

Monday 14th July
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What nonsense, of course it's not a collision. Your car failed as it was being driven. It didn't collide with a speed hump, it just drove over it.

GasEngineer

1,491 posts

78 months

Monday 14th July
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bennno said:
Are you sure it broke by collision with a speed hump, or had it simply failed due to age / manufacturing defect and you simply noticed it whilst going over a speed hump?
TBF this was probably the actual situation. Could have been driving with a broken spring for some time.

VWs eg are notorious for broken springs and I've had a couple that were only noticed at service/MOT as they are difficult to see without jacking the vehicle up.

davek_964

10,245 posts

191 months

Monday 14th July
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GasEngineer said:
bennno said:
Are you sure it broke by collision with a speed hump, or had it simply failed due to age / manufacturing defect and you simply noticed it whilst going over a speed hump?
TBF this was probably the actual situation. Could have been driving with a broken spring for some time.

VWs eg are notorious for broken springs and I've had a couple that were only noticed at service/MOT as they are difficult to see without jacking the vehicle up.
So why was it suddenly immobile after the speed bump?

silentbrown

9,918 posts

132 months

Monday 14th July
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Little SB's mini broke a spring on a pothole. Which took out the wheel speed sensor cable. No ABS,TPMS, Stability control, etc. And a lot less ground clearance...

OTOH we only discovered a broken spring on the XC60 at MOT time!

mr rusty

209 posts

108 months

Monday 14th July
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broken springs are definitely not obvious. Mrs Rusty's DS3 has had a couple. Last time I was in the car when there was a "bong" noise just driving on the flat that I thought sounded odd. Checked underneath the car with a torch but couldn't immediately see anything. Car drove fine - not down on one side or anything. Went to the dealer and asked them to check as I suspected a spring, and they confirmed it was indeed broken....

BertBert

20,384 posts

227 months

Monday 14th July
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mr rusty said:
broken springs are definitely not obvious. Mrs Rusty's DS3 has had a couple. Last time I was in the car when there was a "bong" noise just driving on the flat that I thought sounded odd. Checked underneath the car with a torch but couldn't immediately see anything. Car drove fine - not down on one side or anything. Went to the dealer and asked them to check as I suspected a spring, and they confirmed it was indeed broken....
well it was rather obvious to the OP's wife!

NiceCupOfTea

25,424 posts

267 months

Monday 14th July
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mr rusty said:
broken springs are definitely not obvious. Mrs Rusty's DS3 has had a couple. Last time I was in the car when there was a "bong" noise just driving on the flat that I thought sounded odd. Checked underneath the car with a torch but couldn't immediately see anything. Car drove fine - not down on one side or anything. Went to the dealer and asked them to check as I suspected a spring, and they confirmed it was indeed broken....
Not always the case. Heard a bang late one night when I was half asleep, the next morning the car (e46) literally wouldn't move. I had to use dollies to get it down the drive enough so that RAC could HIAB it onto the back of a lorry! Doorbell footage showed the car suddenly drop at the time I heard the noise.

BertBert

20,384 posts

227 months

Monday 14th July
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NiceCupOfTea said:
Not always the case. Heard a bang late one night when I was half asleep, the next morning the car (e46) literally wouldn't move. I had to use dollies to get it down the drive enough so that RAC could HIAB it onto the back of a lorry! Doorbell footage showed the car suddenly drop at the time I heard the noise.
that's definitely a road traffic accident.