Can you be done for speeding on a bicycle?
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You'll need to be clearer about the 'private road' status.
For now I'll assume it is not gated and the public has access.
There is nothing in the relevant legislation which applies speed limits to bicycles
You can still be prosecuted for riding carelessly or dangerously though.
If you injure/kill somebody then expect to be in some trouble.
http://road.cc/content/news/98005-man-court-wanton...
Unless you have been out of the country/living as a hermit there is also the recent case of Charlie Alliston.
Bicycles used to be subject to the speed limits in Royal Parks and Other Open Spaces.
That legislation was changed in 2010 and now only applies to 'a mechanically propelled vehicle intended or adapted for use on a road'.
It hasn't stopped cyclists being taken to court for speeding though - http://road.cc/content/news/169880-huge-fine-cycli...
Without going into the moral argument there is something wrong with the magistrates' application of the law imo.
For now I'll assume it is not gated and the public has access.
There is nothing in the relevant legislation which applies speed limits to bicycles
You can still be prosecuted for riding carelessly or dangerously though.
If you injure/kill somebody then expect to be in some trouble.
http://road.cc/content/news/98005-man-court-wanton...
Unless you have been out of the country/living as a hermit there is also the recent case of Charlie Alliston.
Bicycles used to be subject to the speed limits in Royal Parks and Other Open Spaces.
That legislation was changed in 2010 and now only applies to 'a mechanically propelled vehicle intended or adapted for use on a road'.
It hasn't stopped cyclists being taken to court for speeding though - http://road.cc/content/news/169880-huge-fine-cycli...
Without going into the moral argument there is something wrong with the magistrates' application of the law imo.
InitialDave said:
On a private road? Isn't that trespass rather than anything relating to speeding?
If the land-owner permits access, no.A private road is a road owned and maintained by a private individual, organization, or company rather than by a government. Nothing about who has access.
Red Devil said:
Bicycles used to be subject to the speed limits in Royal Parks and Other Open Spaces.
That legislation was changed in 2010 and now only applies to 'a mechanically propelled vehicle intended or adapted for use on a road'.
It hasn't stopped cyclists being taken to court for speeding though - http://road.cc/content/news/169880-huge-fine-cycli...
Without going into the moral argument there is something wrong with the magistrates' application of the law imo.
I thought the earlier 2010 amendments were revoked by later 2010 amendments, one of which was the revocation of the section which defined 'vehicle' as 'mechanically propelled'.That legislation was changed in 2010 and now only applies to 'a mechanically propelled vehicle intended or adapted for use on a road'.
It hasn't stopped cyclists being taken to court for speeding though - http://road.cc/content/news/169880-huge-fine-cycli...
Without going into the moral argument there is something wrong with the magistrates' application of the law imo.
The Royal Parks and Other Open Spaces Amendment 1 Regulations 2010 said:
Citation, Commencement and Interpretation
1.—(2) In these Regulations–
<..snip..>
“vehicle” means a mechanically propelled vehicle intended or adapted for use on a road.
1.—(2) In these Regulations–
<..snip..>
“vehicle” means a mechanically propelled vehicle intended or adapted for use on a road.
The Royal Parks and Other Open Spaces Amendment 2 Regulations 2010 said:
2. Regulations 1(2) and 5 to 8 of The Royal Parks and Other Open Spaces (Amendment) etc Regulations 2010(1) are revoked.
Edited by SS2. on Wednesday 22 November 21:33
SS2. said:
I thought the earlier 2010 amendments were revoked by later 2010 amendments, one of which was the revocation of the section which defined 'vehicle' as 'mechanically propelled'.
I stand corrected. The Royal Parks and Other Open Spaces Amendment 1 Regulations 2010 said:
Citation, Commencement and Interpretation
1.—(2) In these Regulations–
<..snip..>
“vehicle” means a mechanically propelled vehicle intended or adapted for use on a road.
1.—(2) In these Regulations–
<..snip..>
“vehicle” means a mechanically propelled vehicle intended or adapted for use on a road.
The Royal Parks and Other Open Spaces Amendment 2 Regulations 2010 said:
2. Regulations 1(2) and 5 to 8 of The Royal Parks and Other Open Spaces (Amendment) etc Regulations 2010(1) are revoked.
They certainly got a shift on. Less than 7 months after Amendment 1 came into force.
I may be wrong but AFAIK all speed limits in the UK are normally in increments of 10mph.
Thus 15mph is thus a 'non standard' figure. I reckon there would need to be a specific Order for it to be enforceable.
Otoh it might be in the same category as the 5mph signs which can be found in retail/industrial estates.
Advisory. Some speedometers, particularly on older vehicles, won't accurately register that low.
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=5041...
There is a lot of misunderstanding about what makes a road 'private'.
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2001/450...
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2011/488...
For those who have some spare change in their piggy bank.
http://www.barsby.com/product/private-roads-the-le...
WinstonWolf said:
On normal roads speed limits don't apply to bicycles.
I thought the "furious cycling" was the offence that would apply for bicycles if you did actually get stopped for "speeding".As a teenager, the nearest I came was getting told off by a bicycling Military policeman who we overtook down the hill at the entrance of RAF Valley. He caught up with us at the chip shop and suggested that he was going to report us for "furious cycling".......Them were the days.....
I always fancied having a "furious cycling" conviction after this happened......I don't think his stern telling off had the effect he thought it would.....
fat80b said:
I thought the "furious cycling" was the offence that would apply for bicycles if you did actually get stopped for "speeding".
As a teenager, the nearest I came was getting told off by a bicycling Military policeman who we overtook down the hill at the entrance of RAF Valley. He caught up with us at the chip shop and suggested that he was going to report us for "furious cycling".......Them were the days.....
I always fancied having a "furious cycling" conviction after this happened......I don't think his stern telling off had the effect he thought it would.....
Of course, a criminal conviction is a great thing to have on your record and won’t cause any problems in day to day life at all As a teenager, the nearest I came was getting told off by a bicycling Military policeman who we overtook down the hill at the entrance of RAF Valley. He caught up with us at the chip shop and suggested that he was going to report us for "furious cycling".......Them were the days.....
I always fancied having a "furious cycling" conviction after this happened......I don't think his stern telling off had the effect he thought it would.....
WinstonWolf said:
BoRED S2upid said:
On a public road yes.
Nope, only in certain parks as stated. On normal roads speed limits don't apply to bicycles.They took my details on both occasions, but I didn't hear anything else about it.
I also know that the speed camera on the A6 south out of Preston by the old car auctions was set at 38mph - one person couldn't set it off, but two riders side by side could. And did. Daily....
S11Steve said:
WinstonWolf said:
BoRED S2upid said:
On a public road yes.
Nope, only in certain parks as stated. On normal roads speed limits don't apply to bicycles.They took my details on both occasions, but I didn't hear anything else about it.
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