Wife has been done for 50 in a 30....

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Hi all,

Wife was done back in June for 50 in a 30 (in her defence, she has an i3 which rockets from 30-50, and she was done coming out of the 30 zone into a 60), anyway she was caught, end of.

Last week she received the paperwork, court or plead guilty, we've taken the latter, but with the explanation that she works full time, kids to take to school, she has to do it all as i'm at work in London a lot etc etc. (All true)

Has anyone had any experience of the likelihood of the penalty? I've really no idea what to expect having never been caught and fined myself (some irony in that tbh)

I've had a go at calculating myself, but they have asked for all sorts of financial info/salary etc of her and me(!?), would welcome opinions....

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WJNB said:

Easily done of course.
Can't see that the accelerative ability of her car (whatever the badge) whilst nice to boast about would be any defence.
Transporting children AND speeding may not be seen as responsible nor would any reference to children be relevant nor would the fact that she is having to do all this whilst husband is working.

Thank you for the wonderfully unhelpful response....

1) I wasnt boasting about the car, simply implying as you say, easily done, she's isnt a serial speeder flying past a primary school
2) At no point did i say the kids were in the car, they weren't
3) My reference to schooling and my work patterns were simply given as context to the situation when pleading for leniency from the disciplinary board/whomever applies the fine/ban etc.

I was simply looking for anecdotal examples or insights into what we may well be in for in terms of fine/punishment.

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watchnut said:

Hi OP,

if the offence happened in June, when did she get the notice of intended prosecution? (NOP)

that normally has to be received within 2 weeks.

Did they not give you the chance to plead guilty, pay the fine, take the points then?

Or have you opted to contest, to go to court hence delay?

If only recently received the NOP then as far as I understand they have not complied with the NOP guidelines and you may have case dismissed (but I may be wrong)

The fact she was doing 50 in a 30 is neither here or there, she was speeding . It is likely she often speeding, but this time got caught, maybe take it on the chin, and keep below the limits so will not have to worry about being "caught". None of us like to be caught, but we can hardly complain when we are. This is not a dig at your wife, but just be grateful it was not you....you would never here the end of it!!

let us know what the result is

good luck to her, one can never second guess a magistrates court

Thanks for the considered response mate,

In answer to your question, she got a letter almost instantly (literally 48hrs later) notifying her that she will be prosecuted.

She then received the letter to go to court or just plead guilty and submit reasoning/plead for leniency etc etc only last week.

Lets see what happens, I simply asked the question to try and gauge what people thought the punishment might be.

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Red 4 said:

JimSuperSix said:

Nobody has dragged out the old "if the speedo was reading 50 she was probably doing at least 55" yet? What's going on PH? That's almost double the speed limit, where are all the usual righteous anger posters??

I'm disappointed with this thread.

Nobody will say it because it isn't true.

Speedometers over-read which is the opposite of what you are saying.

The OP's wife drives an i3 though, don't forget.
For the uninitiated the i3 has managed to harness the power of a Saturn rocket and condense it into a lithium battery powered small hatchback.

oh pipe down, i was merely implying it was easily done, its not as fast as many sports cars, but it is undeniably potent once up and rolling (until around 80)...for example, according to Evo magazine.... from 50mph to 74.5mph (120km/h) in just 4.9 seconds - only 0.6 seconds slower than the DCT-equipped BMW M4)

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Red 4 said:

popeyewhite said:

A huge shock I know but you'll find they are normal people who are concerned about the outcome of some minor infraction. You and Red 4 should go and post your Christmas cards, or something.

Well, it's a fair point - but do you think Pistonheads is the best place for the answers ?

Sentencing guidelines for most things are available online if you choose to look (rather than asking a bunch of randoms on a car forum).

As for the Christmas cards. Humbug.

I much prefer reading the lame excuses on here ... Electric car in mitigation ?
That's a cracker.
I wouldn't mention it.

Edited by Red 4 on Friday 14th December 16:07

Gents I wasn't asking for legal advice, or someone to sign in blood as to the final bill. However, as a website full of 1000's of petrolheads, who lets face it, mostly probably enjoy a spirited drive, are statistically quite likely to have been caught at some point.

Sadly I am not a multi millionaire and i would like to at least get a sense of whether im looking at footing a bill for 100's or 1000's....one has to budget you know.

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Red 4 said:

popeyewhite said:

A huge shock I know but you'll find they are normal people who are concerned about the outcome of some minor infraction. You and Red 4 should go and post your Christmas cards, or something.

I much prefer reading the lame excuses on here ... Electric car in mitigation ?
That's a cracker.
I wouldn't mention it.

Edited by Red 4 on Friday 14th December 16:07

Jesus wept, i didnt say nor would we put electric car as a mitigating circumstance, just as something as a petrol head i have observed how comically quick it is in real-world situations such as this. (i.e. in my Golf it would have dropped 2 gears and made lots of noise to do the same, where as the i3, with no drama at all, just goes off like a stabbed rat)

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watchnut said:

cheers it's Gin o'clock in 7 minutes !

Amen to that....

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Aiminghigh123 said:

I got done doing 53 in a 30 through temporary road works at 1am. £600 fine and 6 points. I managed to pay it off in installments over a period of 6 months.

Thank you, much appreciated

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agtlaw said:

Assuming a clean licence and an early guilty plea with some reasonable offence and personal mitigation then the most likely outcome in your case:

- 6 points
- Potential fine of £1000, but the actual fine imposed will be commensurate with declared income and the stage at which a guilty plea is entered; see below.
- Prosecution costs £85
- Surcharge imposed at 10% of the fine. (Minimum £30. Maximum £100)

Assuming over £120 pw then your wife’s net weekly income is N. If N exceeds 1000 then N=1000. Following a guilty plea at the earliest opportunity, the most likely fine is N and the sentencing range is 5N/6 to 7N/6. However, whatever the offender’s income, it is unusual to impose a fine in excess of 75% of the maximum. If the court does not have any income data then N is assumed to be 440.

I’ve just digested this properly, many thanks for taking the time to share!