Police enquiry at home
Discussion
So looking for some opinions just to gauge as to whether I’m unreasonable 🤷♂️
So the other night just a few minutes before midnight the Police came to my door, now unfortunately I wasn’t in but my wife was, as you can probably imagine she got a bit of a fright with the doorbell going at that time of night and being in by herself. Wisely she didn’t answer it as at this point she didn’t know who it was, she then heard something being posted through the door. Further investigation revealed that it was a card from Police Scotland with the box ticked enquiry and my name on it. It also had the officers name and they had circled the 101 number for me to call. She phoned me at work and told me what happened, I phoned 101 at around 0015 and spent an hour on hold, when I spoke to the operator and gave my name and address he said there was nothing showing on the system for me however he would pass on my mobile number and get them to call me back. I still hadn’t heard anything by the time I finished work so decided to try and nip things in the bud and went to the Police station. The person on duty managed to radio through to the officer involved and then passed on to me they were just about to finish their shift but had my number and would be in contact when they were back on duty in a weeks time! When I asked what it was in relation to I was told they couldn’t tell me but it was nothing to worry about!
So a few points: is midnight not an unreasonable time to be turning up at someone’s door?
This obviously left me wondering if someone had died or what have I allegedly done.
Is it unreasonable to have expected the curtesy of a return phone call?
Is it unreasonable that I now need to wait a week till they are back on duty to find out what they want?
If it is as they say “ nothing to worry about” why come to my home at midnight?
So just looking for thoughts and opinions from any Police or fellow citizens, is this just the norm?
So the other night just a few minutes before midnight the Police came to my door, now unfortunately I wasn’t in but my wife was, as you can probably imagine she got a bit of a fright with the doorbell going at that time of night and being in by herself. Wisely she didn’t answer it as at this point she didn’t know who it was, she then heard something being posted through the door. Further investigation revealed that it was a card from Police Scotland with the box ticked enquiry and my name on it. It also had the officers name and they had circled the 101 number for me to call. She phoned me at work and told me what happened, I phoned 101 at around 0015 and spent an hour on hold, when I spoke to the operator and gave my name and address he said there was nothing showing on the system for me however he would pass on my mobile number and get them to call me back. I still hadn’t heard anything by the time I finished work so decided to try and nip things in the bud and went to the Police station. The person on duty managed to radio through to the officer involved and then passed on to me they were just about to finish their shift but had my number and would be in contact when they were back on duty in a weeks time! When I asked what it was in relation to I was told they couldn’t tell me but it was nothing to worry about!
So a few points: is midnight not an unreasonable time to be turning up at someone’s door?
This obviously left me wondering if someone had died or what have I allegedly done.
Is it unreasonable to have expected the curtesy of a return phone call?
Is it unreasonable that I now need to wait a week till they are back on duty to find out what they want?
If it is as they say “ nothing to worry about” why come to my home at midnight?
So just looking for thoughts and opinions from any Police or fellow citizens, is this just the norm?
Too be fair they were not overly persistent at the door however the house was in darkness as the wife was in bed, I could understand if they drove past and saw the telly was on for instance but that certainly wasn’t the case.
I haven’t witnessed anything I’m aware of but yeah it’s the not knowing for a week! You would have thought that someone could just tell me I mean it can’t be a secret that only this one officer can divulge surely!
I haven’t witnessed anything I’m aware of but yeah it’s the not knowing for a week! You would have thought that someone could just tell me I mean it can’t be a secret that only this one officer can divulge surely!
I thought both those points as well , the card even has an email address section where the officer I presume just adds their name and the @ Scotland police bit is done for them!
So the crime/incident number bit blank
Station: blank
Email: blank
However apparently my assistance is very much appreciated! So that makes me feel better!!!
So the crime/incident number bit blank
Station: blank
Email: blank
However apparently my assistance is very much appreciated! So that makes me feel better!!!
That’s what I would have thought, one of the few things they actually bothered to write on the card was the date and time 2354 precisely!
I did wonder if this would turn out to be relevant in any way, if not then yeah can they just not pass it to the day shift or something.
Also the fact that I took it upon myself to turn up at a Police station then would that not have been a good time to charge me, arrest me or at least tell my wtf they were doing at my house at that time!
I did wonder if this would turn out to be relevant in any way, if not then yeah can they just not pass it to the day shift or something.
Also the fact that I took it upon myself to turn up at a Police station then would that not have been a good time to charge me, arrest me or at least tell my wtf they were doing at my house at that time!
Glad to see the majority of comments agree to what seems to be reasonable and what is not. For some clarification and as someone has suggested my house layout does not allow you to see out the front without actually going past the front door and due to an opaque glass panel unfortunately that would give away the fact that your there. (This has never been a problem)
I believe my wife absolutely did the right thing here and would recommend if circumstances were to ever repeat themselves then she do it again.
I don’t know how work is allocated to officers but as another poster said could this not have been passed on to day shift ? Particularly when the officer knew that at 0600 they would be off for a week! I only know this because I chased it up they had no intention of actually telling me! I’ve got to the stage where I’m wondering if this was possibly deliberate for some reason, obviously I’m no further forward as to the reasoning for all this. As I’m sure most of you would do I’ve been trying to think of anything I may have done or who I might of upset but nothing noteworthy is coming to mind. Is a complaint to the Police worth the effort/hassle?
I believe my wife absolutely did the right thing here and would recommend if circumstances were to ever repeat themselves then she do it again.
I don’t know how work is allocated to officers but as another poster said could this not have been passed on to day shift ? Particularly when the officer knew that at 0600 they would be off for a week! I only know this because I chased it up they had no intention of actually telling me! I’ve got to the stage where I’m wondering if this was possibly deliberate for some reason, obviously I’m no further forward as to the reasoning for all this. As I’m sure most of you would do I’ve been trying to think of anything I may have done or who I might of upset but nothing noteworthy is coming to mind. Is a complaint to the Police worth the effort/hassle?
monthou said:
You're looking at this purely from your own p.o.v., not from that of the person / people behind the door.
If it's urgent a midnight call is justified.
If it can wait a week it isn't.
That's the point.
It isn't okay for anyone else, and it isn't okay just 'cos you're police.
Looking through the comments most if not all non-police seem to think it's odd / unjustified if it's non-urgent.
Maybe you could take that on board. That last bit was a joke btw.
Op here, so exactly this. For Greendubbers benefit my wife is not and was not “hysterical” I am not “panicking “ maybe just have a think about how things are on the other side! It’s “probably” nothing serious probably! Oh well that’s ok then! Meantime I’ll just hang on eh.If it's urgent a midnight call is justified.
If it can wait a week it isn't.
That's the point.
It isn't okay for anyone else, and it isn't okay just 'cos you're police.
Looking through the comments most if not all non-police seem to think it's odd / unjustified if it's non-urgent.
Maybe you could take that on board. That last bit was a joke btw.
Voldemort said:
To throw my opinion in. Calling on someone at nigh on midnight for a 'non-urgent' matter is completely unacceptable. To leave incomplete information on a calling card in the circumstances is completely unacceptable.
It is upsetting how many Police Officers on here think otherwise. However it is not surprising. My limited observations of the police is that they do not hold themselves to the same rules of both behaviour and law that they expect the general public to abide by.
That’s certainly what is becoming very apparent from this thread:It is upsetting how many Police Officers on here think otherwise. However it is not surprising. My limited observations of the police is that they do not hold themselves to the same rules of both behaviour and law that they expect the general public to abide by.
Nibbles_bits said:
What are you trying to achieve by complaining?
Interesting what you class as a “mild” inconvenience,- Guy punched you in the face = appropriate action for someone causing you physical harm and committing an offence.
- Receive a NIP = if you didn't do it you shouldn't be punished.
Maybe if it was only one thing however when you add together the midnight call, the hour on hold to 101 due to them not leaving any contact details, the lack of return call and then the week left not knowing what I’ve apparently done! Surely you can see that’s more than a mild inconvenience! But then there is an element of the Police couldn’t care less! Certainly from what we read here.
As a night worker myself one of the things you have to expect is people behaving normally during the day, this includes people coming to the door and waking me up, neighbours cutting the grass or worse the dreaded still saw as they cut up new slabs or whatever it is you do with them. However that doesn’t mean that I cut my grass at 2am or chap their door for a cup of sugar! Because for a reasonably minded person it isn’t well reasonable.
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