CCTV Parking ticket ?

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woof

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Hi Chaps

This is a new one on me
Having protested 5 parking tickets in the past - and won ! Here's the latest one - but new to me is parking fine by CCTV ?!

Obviously the council are allowed to do it ?
However the 2 pics are only a few seconds apart
you can't see that there's no one else in the car (tinted windows - legally tinted)

Worth protesting ?





>> Edited by woof on Wednesday 12th October 10:11

woof

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If it's video evidence then most likely it would show me stepping out of the car

However - might as well protest it on the grounds that the car is only stationary and has not been left unattended

woof

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forgot to say - what a complete bunch of w**kers
CCTV to nick a single yellow line contravention !

Actually - from memory. A parking ticket has to be issued to the driver in person or placed on the vehicle or that is how i got off the last 5 tickets !




>> Edited by woof on Wednesday 12th October 11:03

woof

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got photpgraphed in Enfield town



Dwight VanDriver said:
Woof you must be from Landan?

Schedule 2 The Transport for London (Consequential Provisions) Order 2005 amends London Local Authorities Act 2000 to enable Transport for London to serve penalty charge notices under RTA 1991 for parking contraventions on GLA roads and side roads on the basis of camera information and WHERE A PARKING ATTENDANT IS PREVENTED FROM ISSUING a Notice and can serve these by Fax or other electronic device..

Photo 2 shows Number plate of your vehicle at 15.29.20 of the clock. Photo 1 shows 23 seconds later same position. Try counting out 23 seconds - fair time innit?

Me thinks they have you this time. 5 - 1 to you aint a bad score...

dvd

woof

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I think I'll go for the time waiting 21secs
and also that the car wasn't "parked" which is the contravention - as the engine was running and vehicle was occupied

woof

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yes - it's Enfield council

woof

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it's disgusting really. and if they can convict someone (£80 fine ! ) for a 37sec infringement, then i say, lets storm the town hall and string them up !





andy_vtec said:

wtanih said:

The Local Authority is permitted to enforce restrictions without advising (by signage) that either cameras may be capturing a vehicle in contravention or that a parking attendant may operate in the area. There is no obligation on the Local Authority to give advice about which method of enforcement they choose."



FK Me. How did that legislation get through. Are we all supposed to be psychic ??

woof

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personally i'm more into freedom of movement, anti big brother and the nanny state

If i can protest this, i will. And the end of the day, prosecutions via these methods ultimately undermines any good these authorities do. Same deal as the nanny state using speed cameras everywhere - it's nothing to with road safety, it's a stealth tax.

If a car is parked dangerously or potentially slowing traffic down etc - then fair do. But let's be straight about it - this is to do with making money ! I'd jumped out paid a cheque in the auto teller - so 2 mins maybe. Even the commission wardens would of given me 2 mins to do it !

targarama said:
Were you parked illegally? More than just picking up/dropping off? If so then swallow your pride and pay the fine. If not then protest.

woof

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Hi

park anywhere?! - that would be anarchy !!

however - local shops should have a 10min waiting or something. The London Red routes effectively killed off most small business along their routes - so you then have to travel further to get to a supermarket, er hence causing more congestion etc etc



Vipers said:


Isnt the guy in the pic the one you stopped to let out of your car, (which you are allowed to do) or are you just one of the "I can park anyware" brigade?

woof

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basically at the very least - I'm going to say that the timing of the 2 photos (23 secs) does not indicate that the car was parked, but merely the car was stationary.

And the driver at the time assures me that the car was not left unattended and was stationary purely for a set down.

woof

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antispeed said:
just an obsevation or 2, is that blue thing on a small post on the pavement in the picture a parking meter?
2 what does the little yellow sign say, as it is a single yellow , there is often rectanglular sign stating times you are allowed to park and parking restrictions in opperation at that place.


good point - that blue thing is actually the parking info sign - but it's covered up ...

I'll double check this - but that would be bloody funny
There own evidence getting me off

woof

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cheers Dvd

I'll have to check the signage - but I believe that is the first sign in that zone.