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Fat Arnie

Original Poster:

1,655 posts

265 months

Friday 25th January 2008
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Moi?


IRN Alias

7,117 posts

251 months

Friday 25th January 2008
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Fat Arnie said:
Moi?
Vraiment toi.

Noger

7,117 posts

251 months

Friday 25th January 2008
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See smile

1st_petrolhead

1,430 posts

240 months

Wednesday 30th January 2008
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will_ said:
Children, can you sweep up your toys and take them back to blactchat please? PH has now suffered two of these spurious threads from supposed Caterham enthusiasts. This is the reason why I haven't joined the club - politics and bitchy in-fighting, which are clearly still rife. Sounds like a group of people worth spending time with? No, not really.

When I was looking for advice about buying a Caterham, I came here (because of BC's members only posting policy - which, as Pistonheads still exists and hasn't been sued, may be a little on the paranoid side, but there you go). I got some excellent advice from some exceptional people, for which I was most grateful. I bought a car (in fact, I've had two). But any future buyers/owners who come on here now will think that all Caterham people are as childish as you lot!

If you want to have personal 'in' disputes about what can only be sad, irrelvant things that happened years ago, and that the majority of people who read this site know nothing about, just do it via e-mail, or even better, in the pub. No-one here cares. You are only harming the marque which you all apparently feel so strongly about.

Just my 2p worth.
I agree, well said

benchiz

1 posts

195 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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I'm new to this site, and have just come across the picture of the Caterham with zipper paint work!!!! (Owned by 'Fat Arnie' ?)

Im interested to know about the 'airbox' though, what thought is there behind it?

Someone later in the post said it looked like a well thought out development (and car in general), what other developments does the car have?

Cheers,

B.



Edited by benchiz on Wednesday 5th March 14:33

Noger

7,117 posts

251 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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sam919

1,078 posts

198 months

Thursday 6th March 2008
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Just read a few comments and got a general feeling of people sgging each other off in one way or the other.
Does everyone here have a caterham, did have one, thinking of getting one or just enthusiastic and interested in them, i would have hoped the majority of people would have ansewered yes to one of them.
So we are all here enthusiasts about a fabulous car that has many derivetives and somehow there is conflict. The car was designed to ultimatly provide pleasure.

Solutions:

1. Discuss matters enthusiasticly to help develope and improve the car, more heads are better than one.

2. Get on the track and compete against each other sportingly.

3. All get in a boxing ring and knock the st out of each other.

Fat Arnie

Original Poster:

1,655 posts

265 months

Thursday 6th March 2008
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According to some, the airbox is rubbish and signifcantly reduces engine performance. These same people have never been in a car fitted with one.

fergus

6,430 posts

277 months

Thursday 6th March 2008
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Fat Arnie said:
According to some, the airbox is rubbish and signifcantly reduces engine performance. These same people have never been in a car fitted with one.
Arnie, as you seem to have undertaken more development work than most, who would you recomend for an airbox for an SLR, as induction noise is becoming a growing problem on most UK circuits (+the 'Ring)? thks

I think they look horrible, but needs must....

rubystone

11,254 posts

261 months

Friday 7th March 2008
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fergus said:
Arnie, as you seem to have undertaken more development work than most, who would you recomend for an airbox for an SLR, as induction noise is becoming a growing problem on most UK circuits (+the 'Ring)? thks

I think they look horrible, but needs must....
Fergus, I have the Reverie airbox on the R500 - this doesn't require a cut-out in the bonnet and seems to reduce the induction noise. It isn't cheap though.

fergus

6,430 posts

277 months

Friday 7th March 2008
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rubystone said:
fergus said:
Arnie, as you seem to have undertaken more development work than most, who would you recomend for an airbox for an SLR, as induction noise is becoming a growing problem on most UK circuits (+the 'Ring)? thks

I think they look horrible, but needs must....
Fergus, I have the Reverie airbox on the R500 - this doesn't require a cut-out in the bonnet and seems to reduce the induction noise. It isn't cheap though.
thanks Mark. Does it seem to reduce power or affect where it is delivered (i.e. the torque curve) at all? What's the approx damage for a reverie item?

Bafty_Crastard

145 posts

215 months

Friday 7th March 2008
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rubystone

11,254 posts

261 months

Friday 7th March 2008
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fergus said:
Fergus, I have the Reverie airbox on the R500 - this doesn't require a cut-out in the bonnet and seems to reduce the induction noise. It isn't cheap though.
thanks Mark. Does it seem to reduce power or affect where it is delivered (i.e. the torque curve) at all? What's the approx damage for a reverie item?
I haven't run the car without it (it's lockwired in place - they do have a habit of shaking loose the securing nuts...which then fall into the intake trumpets which then.....) I heard that it was into 4 figures - the link shows one at £299 but I don't think that's the same one as mine; mine has "Caterham" stamped into it - I bet that's worth an extra 5 bhp wink


fergus

6,430 posts

277 months

Friday 7th March 2008
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Bafty_Crastard said:
Thanks. Do reverie supply the conical piece which is shown on their site on the end of the caterham airbox?

Where do people typically site the air filter/air inlet, as the front of the car is full of radiator, and I'd want to feed cold air into the engine, rather than take a feed from behind the rad...

Mark, some picswould be ideal!

Bafty_Crastard

145 posts

215 months

Saturday 8th March 2008
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There’s two versions I've seen....this one....http://public.fotki.com/clik/caterham_r400/dsc00019.html . You can get all the bits from Reverie

The snorkel's shown in the pic are the same as here....http://www.reverie.ltd.uk/shop/products.php?g1=377e7d 

The other "Caterham" version is a rectangular intake that's located below the rad (sorry no pic's), is ground clearance a problem?

Bafty




Edited by Bafty_Crastard on Saturday 8th March 10:08

fergus

6,430 posts

277 months

Saturday 8th March 2008
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Bafty_Crastard said:
The other "Caterham" version is a rectangular intake that's located below the rad (sorry no pic's), is ground clearance a problem?
thanks

65mm under dry sump, unless you consider the pic of me at the Ring below (jump at pflanzgarden 1) hehe. NB big bird was clearly photoshopped, as there's no way he could get his ass in an S3!


Fat Arnie

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1,655 posts

265 months

Sunday 9th March 2008
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It needs to be able to suck in cool air. The Reverie one only does this with the OEM Caterham induction kit which fits under the nose, however people have had problems with engines lunching due to materials picked up close to the road surface.

Also the conical filter, bends in induction piping and general cross sectional area of the induction path mean I think you would loose much power in road use. I think Caterham were once quoted it knocked 10bhp off an R500.

On the road, my ugly one works very well, but I did need a long session with a wide band lamda to check all was OK. It leans the engie out quite a bit, which is a sign that it does work. On the rolling road however, due to lack of fast moving air, it restricts power considerably. You have to set it up and revise lighting so the headlamp does not block the port.

rubystone

11,254 posts

261 months

Monday 10th March 2008
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Yes, my Reverie has the OEM octopus type kit. I think (must check!) I have mesh over the inlets.

atom-ick

110 posts

196 months

Tuesday 25th March 2008
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fergus said:
Bafty_Crastard said:
The other "Caterham" version is a rectangular intake that's located below the rad (sorry no pic's), is ground clearance a problem?
thanks

65mm under dry sump, unless you consider the pic of me at the Ring below (jump at pflanzgarden 1) hehe. NB big bird was clearly photoshopped, as there's no way he could get his ass in an S3!

brilliant picture!