Gran Turismo Sport PS4

[Bullett]

Some weird people out there.
I was surfing the lobbies and found a car/track combo I liked. Happy lapping in practice with a few people swapping top spot.
Race starts and it's 1 lap and the host has put themselves on pole (not qualified).
We kick off and I'm in second. they bin it towards the end, I win and then get kicked from the session.

Don't understand why you would fix the race to such a degree, where is the challenge?

[JohnStitch]

Seen a lot of this lately, so when selecting a lobby I now only go for the ones that are set to ‘Race for Real’ rather than ‘Race for Fun’. Not totally foolproof but seem to get much better lobbies and racing that way.

[egor110]

There's enough of us here maybe we should start a Sunday night race series ?

Maybe open it to people you've had good clean races with also ?

A lot of us have moved from GTA and we had a pretty good Sunday night race session for years .

[Bullett]

What's the difference - Race for Real/Race for Fun.

Considering how much unneeded help they give elsewhere an explanation of what is what in Lobbies would have been helpful.

How do you search for a lobby by name? I can only find a way to do it by number.

Is there a list of GTS player tags anywhere? I have a few of you.

[JohnStitch]

Bullett said:

What's the difference - Race for Real/Race for Fun.

Considering how much unneeded help they give elsewhere an explanation of what is what in Lobbies would have been helpful.

How do you search for a lobby by name? I can only find a way to do it by number.

Is there a list of GTS player tags anywhere? I have a few of you.

Race for Real/Fun is a setting you switch when setting up a lobby. Kind of indicates to me that the host at least wants to have some clean racing, and it generally works out that way - you’ll always get the odd nobhead in any lobby, but this does seem to reduce them a bit -

When searching for a lobby to play with other PHers you need to add them to your friends list then just search for lobbies containing friends. I don’t think you can search by lobby name.

There is a wiki page in this sub-forum that a load of us started to put our PSN IDs into. Feel free to add me (Joyrider1)

Edit to add link: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[Chris Stott]

ferrisbueller said:

Chris Stott said:

If you're reasonably quick you can avoid most of the carnage… I can count the number of time I’ve been punted on the fingers of one hand in 35 races to date.

I look forward to seeing how this opinion evolves when you're more equally matched with those around you. After 300+ races I can tell you for sure that you're going to get punted off at DR A/B SR S level. I'd say 25% of championship races are effectively ended that way. Qualifying is massively affected by other cars when you have maybe four laps to get your time, finding space for a clear lap is not easy. I'd say >50% qualifying laps are compromised.

DRS is a significant achievement, some of the best guys in Europe aren't DRS.

My wheel hadn’t seen daylight for 2 weeks before Monday night – I’ve been concentrating on the pit lane glitch to get to level 50 before it was patched (I finally got this Saturday afternoon). Even without this, I only get a couple of hours a night, so it will take me a long time to get to 300 races! Plus I will not enter a race I don’t feel prepared for – I’d rather have one good race than jump into 2 or 3 unprepared, and end up not being able to perform at my true level. So a 2 hour window usually means 1 race.

I don’t enter the FIA events. The way qualifying is set up massively increases the risk of getting involved with numpties… drivers don’t necessarily end up in their true grid position, and the limited time mean people aren’t fully in tune with the car/track combo. Yes, you can practice in arcade, but grip levels are different on-line.

Last night I got home a bit earlier than usual, and I clicked with the RSR at Brands immediately. Unusually for me, I had a European top 10 qualifying time after just 7 laps, 10 laps later I had improved to 5th, and I was hitting times good enough for top 10 every lap… so I entered the 18.25 race, rather than spending more time qualifying/building consistency and waiting for the 19.25.

And I am getting matched against people at my level…My qualifying time was 5th best in Europe. I started 2nd, top 8 on the grid were covered by less than 1s.

Pole guy slide wide early on lap 2, I took the lead with a 1.5s gap to 3rd, held that gap until pitting end of lap 5, took 5 laps of fuel, no tyres, re-joined 8th, passed 7th & 6th, then re took the lead when the lead cars pitted laps 6 and 7. Ran cleanly to the end for a win by c.5s.

Usually, I would jump straight back in to qualifying to try and improve my time/build more consistency if I have time for another race, but I was a bit over confident after the victory, and spent the time between races chatting to a couple of drivers from the race.

By the 19.25 race, my qualifying time had slipped to 7th in Europe… and I was only 4th on the grid (race included 2 of the very fastest drivers in the Europe, and both were ahead of me). Top 10 were covered by 1.2s, top 16 by less 2s. A very well matched grid of A/S drivers, with a couple of S/S.

Exciting… getting to race some of the fastest drivers is always slightly nerve wracking!

First 2 laps went well - I picked up a place on the back straight lap 1, and was comfortably hanging with the front 2. 3rd lap I stupidly got distracted checking fuel, caught the grass on the outside and slid wide at Surtees. I waited for a gap in traffic to re-join. By the time I got back on track I was 14th.

I then worked my way through the field to finish 6th.

3 places were made when other cars slid off track, the other 5 were clean passes, mostly made on the outside in to Hawthorne or Clearways – typically, car in front got a poor corner exit, defended on the inside, I got a better exit, and just drove round the outside… this sort of pass is MUCH easier with the grip increases 1.06 has brought.

In 2 races, 20 laps, not even the slightest contact with another car.

I’ve now had 37 races and I’m half way to DRS (and have been SRS since race 5). I expect the racing to continue to improve when I move to DRS in the next few weeks... though I also expect victories to be few and far between!

To a certain extent, you can make things easier or more difficult for yourself.

[JohnStitch]

Chris Stott said:

I’ve been concentrating on the pit lane glitch to get to level 50 before it was patched

Each to their own and all that, but I’ve never understood the point of glitching to level up on video games - What does level 50 give you in this game? I’ve yet to see any benefit to levelling up (am on level 32 at moment and still not seen anything different).

Having said that, the odd money glitch on GTA was always worth doing

[Chris Stott]

JohnStitch said:

Chris Stott said:

I’ve been concentrating on the pit lane glitch to get to level 50 before it was patched

Each to their own and all that, but I’ve never understood the point of glitching to level up on video games - What does level 50 give you in this game? I’ve yet to see any benefit to levelling up (am on level 32 at moment and still not seen anything different).

Having said that, the odd money glitch on GTA was always worth doing

Level 50 is one of the requirements for the platinum trophy... and without glitching, I doubt anyone will ever get to lvl 50.

Also gave loads of credits enabling me to buy every car in the game, and along with rubber banding for mileage points, upgrade every car I own (weight & power).

All that's left for me now are the race entries/wins/poles trophies.

[Lynchie999]

Chris Stott said:

ferrisbueller said:

Chris Stott said:

If you're reasonably quick you can avoid most of the carnage… I can count the number of time I’ve been punted on the fingers of one hand in 35 races to date.

I look forward to seeing how this opinion evolves when you're more equally matched with those around you. After 300+ races I can tell you for sure that you're going to get punted off at DR A/B SR S level. I'd say 25% of championship races are effectively ended that way. Qualifying is massively affected by other cars when you have maybe four laps to get your time, finding space for a clear lap is not easy. I'd say >50% qualifying laps are compromised.

DRS is a significant achievement, some of the best guys in Europe aren't DRS.

Unusually for me, I had a European top 10 qualifying time after just 7 laps,

And I am getting matched against people at my level…My qualifying time was 5th best in Europe.

By the 19.25 race, my qualifying time had slipped to 7th in Europe…

what are you going to do when you get to S/S rating ?

[Bullett]

JohnStitch said:

Race for Real/Fun is a setting you switch when setting up a lobby. Kind of indicates to me that the host at least wants to have some clean racing, and it generally works out that way - you’ll always get the odd nobhead in any lobby, but this does seem to reduce them a bit -

When searching for a lobby to play with other PHers you need to add them to your friends list then just search for lobbies containing friends. I don’t think you can search by lobby name.

There is a wiki page in this sub-forum that a load of us started to put our PSN IDs into. Feel free to add me (Joyrider1)

Edit to add link: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

I was looking for a wiki but didn't see one,thanks, added my PSN-ID - Everyone, expect a friend request from me, I usually put PH in the text.

I did a bit of searching for the difference between RFR and RFF and no-one seems to know. The closest to an answer was it's just a filter.

[Chris Stott]

Lynchie999 said:

Chris Stott said:

ferrisbueller said:

Chris Stott said:

If you're reasonably quick you can avoid most of the carnage… I can count the number of time I’ve been punted on the fingers of one hand in 35 races to date.

I look forward to seeing how this opinion evolves when you're more equally matched with those around you. After 300+ races I can tell you for sure that you're going to get punted off at DR A/B SR S level. I'd say 25% of championship races are effectively ended that way. Qualifying is massively affected by other cars when you have maybe four laps to get your time, finding space for a clear lap is not easy. I'd say >50% qualifying laps are compromised.

DRS is a significant achievement, some of the best guys in Europe aren't DRS.

Unusually for me, I had a European top 10 qualifying time after just 7 laps,

And I am getting matched against people at my level…My qualifying time was 5th best in Europe.

By the 19.25 race, my qualifying time had slipped to 7th in Europe…

what are you going to do when you get to S/S rating ?

I expect to have super fast, super clean races with the fastest, most skilled drivers in Europe... well, for at least a reasonable amount of time!

Unfortunately, doesn't look like this will last forever as DR continues to improve for even the least skilled drivers, no matter their finishing position as long as they actually finish a race (though at a much slower pace than if you're consistently winning/top 3).

Personally, I think DR should increase if you finish top half, at a rate relative to your final position. If you're bottom half of the results, DR should decrease relative to your finishing position. Otherwise everyone will be DRS eventually and the whole rating system collapses.

[ferrisbueller]

Chris Stott said:

I’ve now had 37 races and I’m half way to DRS (and have been SRS since race 5). I expect the racing to continue to improve when I move to DRS in the next few weeks... though I also expect victories to be few and far between!

As I said, I'll be interested to see how this view evolves. And how that DRS assumption pans out.

Alexony94, winner of the championship a few weeks ago, has 31 wins from 60 races.and is currently A/S
Cristian94 is currently the highest ranked S/S in the Nation's cup (2 S/S in the top 10, the other being Panzerfaust). He has 107 wins from 266 races and his progress bar shows he is barely an S.

As far as I can see there are two S/S drivers in the top 100 (I didn't look further) with 4 in the top 100 of the Manufacturer's. I don't think DR S is easily obtained so wish you luck.

Chris Stott said:

To a certain extent, you can make things easier or more difficult for yourself.

Absolutely. But you'll have a race or two where through no fault of your own your SR gets hammered. Maybe it will go down to a B and drag your DR down to a B, too. Then you're back in the lottery of SR B/C drivers. I've gone from DR S to B in one race twice. And DR S to C in one race once, a Bathurst 10 lap bloodfest with several pile ups in the hemmed in section of the descent.

My last two Nation's cup races have effectively been ended by A/S drivers.

Given the chosen format for the championship races appears to be settling this kind of thing looks to be collateral damage you have to accept if you want to be part of it.

My initial win ratio was 50%. It's now more like 15% and I haven't won in about 40.

[AWRacing]

OUT of interest Chris, what lap times are you doing around brands?

[JohnStitch]

Bullett said:

I did a bit of searching for the difference between RFR and RFF and no-one seems to know. The closest to an answer was it's just a filter.

It’s just a room status that the lobby owner sets - There are a couple of others, like ‘Looking for Friends’ and ‘Let’s show off our cars’ or something similar. It doesn’t actually change anything in the game itself, but may attract different players.

[Chris Stott]

ferrisbueller said:

Chris Stott said:

I’ve now had 37 races and I’m half way to DRS (and have been SRS since race 5). I expect the racing to continue to improve when I move to DRS in the next few weeks... though I also expect victories to be few and far between!

As I said, I'll be interested to see how this view evolves. And how that DRS assumption pans out.

Alexony94, winner of the championship a few weeks ago, has 31 wins from 60 races, and is currently A/S
Cristian94 is currently the highest ranked S/S in the Nation's cup (2 S/S in the top 10, the other being Panzerfaust). He has 107 wins from 266 races and his progress bar shows he is barely an S.

As far as I can see there are two S/S drivers in the top 100 (I didn't look further) with 4 in the top 100 of the Manufacturer's. I don't think DR S is easily obtained so wish you luck.

Most of the higher (DRA/S) ranked drivers on my friends list aren't running the FIA events. I assume for the same reasons I'm avoiding them.

Some are though, and even the very fastest ones are having trouble with qualifying/getting punted... just reassures me I'm doing the right thing.

At the rate my DR rating bar is increasing, I would expect to be DR in around another 10 races, providing I continue to finish top end of the pack.

ferrisbueller said:

Chris Stott said:

To a certain extent, you can make things easier or more difficult for yourself.

Absolutely. But you'll have a race or two where through no fault of your own your SR gets hammered. Maybe it will go down to a B and drag your DR down to a B, too. Then you're back in the lottery of SR B/C drivers. I've gone from DR S to B in one race twice. And DR S to C in one race once, a Bathurst 10 lap bloodfest with several pile ups in the hemmed in section of the descent.

My last two Nation's cup races have effectively been ended by A/S drivers.

Given the chosen format for the championship races appears to be settling this kind of thing looks to be collateral damage you have to accept if you want to be part of it.

My initial win ratio was 50%. It's now more like 15% and I haven't won in about 40.

As I said, I avoid the FIA races – heard too many bad stories about the quality of driving that I’m not interested in running them. I’ll stick to combos I feel comfortable with, where I’m confident I can put proper preparation in and compete at a good level. So far, this approach has worked as I’ve had virtually no bad experiences.

To date, I’ve never had a red SR result. Other than 2 races, it’s always been blue.

Having said that, I have considered deliberately crashing my SR by quitting a few races so I can get matched against lower level opposition and pick up the necessary wins/poles for platinum… getting these at DRA/SRS is pretty tough… I would imagine the guys with lots of races/wins were the naturally fast ones that focused on racing from launch… I went another way and did the missions/licenses/track challenges/lvl 50 glitch, so I need to catch up.

If I get matched against DRC or DRB, whatever their SR rating, I would expect to 1) qualify on pole & 2) fk off in to the distance, giving them zero chance to punt me. The only way this wouldn't happen is if I met someone really fast, who was moving through the levels like I did a month ago... but there will be less of those people now. Only thing that's stopping me doing this is the quality of races I'm currently getting... they are just too much fun

[djdest]

Chris Stott said:

Level 50 is one of the requirements for the platinum trophy... and without glitching, I doubt anyone will ever get to lvl 50.

Also gave loads of credits enabling me to buy every car in the game, and along with rubber banding for mileage points, upgrade every car I own (weight & power).

All that's left for me now are the race entries/wins/poles trophies.

Ok, so you get the platinum trophy. Does'nt it feel like a bit of a hollow victory?
It just seems to me like some people want to get every award just for the sake of it.
Surely that takes away the whole point of playing the game.
Each to their own I suppose

[ferrisbueller]

Chris Stott said:

I expect to have super fast, super clean races with the fastest, most skilled drivers in Europe... well, for at least a reasonable amount of time!

Unfortunately, doesn't look like this will last forever as DR continues to improve for even the least skilled drivers, no matter their finishing position as long as they actually finish a race (though at a much slower pace than if you're consistently winning/top 3).

Not true.

Chris Stott said:

Personally, I think DR should increase if you finish top half, at a rate relative to your final position. If you're bottom half of the results, DR should decrease relative to your finishing position. Otherwise everyone will be DRS eventually and the whole rating system collapses.

That's what it does.

[Chris Stott]

AWRacing said:

OUT of interest Chris, what lap times are you doing around brands?

My qualifying time was a 1'23.3 in the 991 RSR.

Race laps about 1s slower - partially due to grip being slightly less when tyre wear is on, partially due to me being more conservative on entry in to the fast rights on the back half of the track (crashing on my own drives me insane - inexcusable error to make).

I tried the RSR and the RCZ... I could run pretty much the same times in both cars, but just enjoy the handling on the RSR more.

[egor110]

djdest said:

Chris Stott said:

Level 50 is one of the requirements for the platinum trophy... and without glitching, I doubt anyone will ever get to lvl 50.

Also gave loads of credits enabling me to buy every car in the game, and along with rubber banding for mileage points, upgrade every car I own (weight & power).

All that's left for me now are the race entries/wins/poles trophies.

Ok, so you get the platinum trophy. Does'nt it feel like a bit of a hollow victory?
It just seems to me like some people want to get every award just for the sake of it.
Surely that takes away the whole point of playing the game.
Each to their own I suppose

We've come from gta, grinding for something be it a new car/level is what we're used to

It's interesting that i can get onto gran tourismo and have any i car i want for no work , no grinding up levels to open up more car options .

[djdest]

Grinding on GTA by doing missions/heists/racing to earn money so you can buy things is a bit different to sticking a rubber band on the controller and then doing something else while the game plays its-self!