Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020

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kowalski655 said:

Today seems to be a day of big updates for me! 15 GB for Dirt Rally 2.0 for a minor final update,3 GB for Il-2, now 1Gb for MSFS, plus the free UK update later,@ 3Mb/s

Dirt's guaranteed 15gb each time seems to produce a change in the signs at the start and that's about it. I'll probably pirate it just so I don't ever have to do this again. Nice one, game makers.

The MSFS download is all over the joint but I presume that's decompressing what it's downloaded much of the time.

[anonymous-user]

I’m really enjoying the U.K. update.

My area is still autogen rather than photometric but it all looks a bit better and London looks awesome.

My loading times (after each crash or move to a new area) seem to have improved loads. ‘

I think some of the U.K. airports are on sale still (in the store) also.

[anonymous-user]

DDg said:

Same here - cool that I can recognise the features in friends and families gardens - ponds, beds, cars in driveways etc., but the houses are invariably nothing like the reality.

I had an issue that after the UK update it looked like my visual settings were set to max - saturation, colour, vividness, making it very grainy and unpleasant, but a reinstall of the whole thing fixed it.

Can anyone recommend an aftermarket Heathrow airport or know when one's due? I've got aftermarket Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, and City and would like LHR to be as good. Thx.

I haven’t seen a good Heathrow aftermarket tbh.

I think because there’s a good Heathrow in the pro version it might be a while until someone makes a really good one?

There’s not a good Gatwick either after market or in the game. The update has improved it slightly though and they’ve finally got rid of the second control tower.

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DDg said:

El stovey said:

I think because there’s a good Heathrow in the pro version it might be a while until someone makes a really good one?

Ahh, thanks. I didn't realise the Premium Deluxe Pro Ghia edition had it - I'm just on Gamepass.

I think Heathrow and the 787 (which is nothing like a 787 at the moment) were the only reasons worth getting it to me anyway. Unfortunately I really wanted both.

[surveyor]

El stovey said:

DDg said:

El stovey said:

I think because there’s a good Heathrow in the pro version it might be a while until someone makes a really good one?

Ahh, thanks. I didn't realise the Premium Deluxe Pro Ghia edition had it - I'm just on Gamepass.

I think Heathrow and the 787 (which is nothing like a 787 at the moment) were the only reasons worth getting it to me anyway. Unfortunately I really wanted both.

Are there any groups working on it? The a320 group are doing a rather nice job...

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surveyor said:

Are there any groups working on it? The a320 group are doing a rather nice job...

Doesn’t look like it. There is one tinkering and releasing some fixes I think but it’s nothing like the A320 group.

Looks the quality wings 787 will just replace it a few months and ought to be the first study level big jet but obviously you’ll have to buy that.

http://www.qualitywingssim.com/v.2.0.1.8/Boeing-78...

I’m definitely buying this when it comes out.

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The 787 has locked files like the other upgrade aircraft. I doubt they'll ever be capable of being tinkered with.

I've got the premium deluxe version. I don't make that much use of it really, mainly the Shock Ultra. The Heathrow is obviously a vast upgrade on standard but it's still a way off a dedicated payware version.

No idea whether one of those is in the pipeline but if I'd bought the premium deluxe just for that I'd be disappointed.

As for the UK update, they've utterly broken St Marys airport on the Isles of Scilly which was my fave place to fly to.

The coastlines in general look vastly better but they are twitchier. For me the new photogrammetry is awful. I think it must be a streaming issue. I have to pause for 10 seconds to get the full look, and it's not a very good look to my eyes.

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bloomen said:

The 787 has locked files like the other upgrade aircraft. I doubt they'll ever be capable of being tinkered with.

I've got the premium deluxe version. I don't make that much use of it really, mainly the Shock Ultra. The Heathrow is obviously a vast upgrade on standard but it's still a way off a dedicated payware version.

No idea whether one of those is in the pipeline but if I'd bought the premium deluxe just for that I'd be disappointed.

As for the UK update, they've utterly broken St Marys airport on the Isles of Scilly which was my fave place to fly to.

The coastlines in general look vastly better but they are twitchier. For me the new photogrammetry is awful. I think it must be a streaming issue. I have to pause for 10 seconds to get the full look, and it's not a very good look to my eyes.

Yeah I think it being an upgrade aircraft must limit what can be done.

Shame really as it looks great and is good for practicing scans and some procedures etc but it’s probably the least accurate aircraft of the lot (from the ones that I know) doing any actual flying in it is likely negative for revision as it all works so differently to the real thing but because it looks so accurate it sucks you in to thinking it’s better than it is.

The shock ultra is good fun though.

I’m sure you know, you can turn the photogrammetry off and it default to autogen if there’s streaming issues. I think if streaming is really slow it tells you it can load properly but I’ve definitely been over areas that aren’t loading properly without the message.

The U.K. update has actually got rid of some of the photogrammetry areas around Portsmouth (hopefully temporarily)

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El stovey said:

I’m sure you know, you can turn the photogrammetry off and it default to autogen if there’s streaming issues. I think if streaming is really slow it tells you it can load properly but I’ve definitely been over areas that aren’t loading properly without the message.

Indeed, but the photogrammetry is absolutely fine everywhere else. I expected the UK iterations to be hammered on day one as everyone looked at it but it's still the same now.

I can't say I actually like the way photogrammetry looks but it would be nice to have a properly working option.

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bloomen said:

El stovey said:

I’m sure you know, you can turn the photogrammetry off and it default to autogen if there’s streaming issues. I think if streaming is really slow it tells you it can load properly but I’ve definitely been over areas that aren’t loading properly without the message.

Indeed, but the photogrammetry is absolutely fine everywhere else. I expected the UK iterations to be hammered on day one as everyone looked at it but it's still the same now.

I can't say I actually like the way photogrammetry looks but it would be nice to have a properly working option.

Is it only in one part of the U.K. or all of it? My internet isn’t awesome but mines been ok in the U.K. in the areas I’ve seen so far.

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El stovey said:

Is it only in one part of the U.K. or all of it? My internet isn’t awesome but mines been ok in the U.K. in the areas I’ve seen so far.

All of the new UK places. The old, now missing, Portsmouth and Southampton worked the same as the rest of the world. It must be some new type of delivery that's not working too well.

[scottyp123]

I'm still not convinced with this game, I know I'm pushing my system fairly hard with overclocks but I've had more CTD's, Blue screens and lock ups since installing this than ever before. I push the system with Oculus games where the fans are going at full belt and its solid as a rock, every time without fail playing this game I have at least one crash of some sort every single time.

By the time you have bought enough hardware to run this game smoothly you could have paid for real life flying lessons.

BTW does anyone else get the PFD freezing when using the development A320 from flybywire since the latest update.

[surveyor]

I ditched my old saitek yoke in favour of the thrustmaster airbus stick. Difference is night and day - I knew there was where in the yoke, but had not realised how much.

Although my rudder pedals hate the stick bizarrely. Need to work out why.

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El stovey said:

I haven’t seen a good Heathrow aftermarket tbh.

I think because there’s a good Heathrow in the pro version it might be a while until someone makes a really good one?

There’s not a good Gatwick either after market or in the game. The update has improved it slightly though and they’ve finally got rid of the second control tower.

There’s a decent freeware Gatwick on flightsim.to - couple of versions of the same one has more detail I think. Matches charts nicely and gate numbers seem accurate as well.

[Scabutz]

I'm still mucking about in the Cessna 152. Everytime I take off I have the same problem. I pull back on the yoke and initially I get good climb then the nose starts to dip and if I pull back harder I then get a stall warning.

I set trim for take off, 10 degrees flaps, full throttle, rotate at 50kts.

What am I doing wrong?

[scottyp123]

Scabutz said:

I'm still mucking about in the Cessna 152. Everytime I take off I have the same problem. I pull back on the yoke and initially I get good climb then the nose starts to dip and if I pull back harder I then get a stall warning.

I set trim for take off, 10 degrees flaps, full throttle, rotate at 50kts.

What am I doing wrong?

I would say take off less aggressively, clime at a rate where the airspeed increases as opposed to rate of climb so you can get the flaps up as soon as. I'm no pilot but doesn't pitch=speed and power=pitch or something like that.

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scottyp123 said:

Scabutz said:

I'm still mucking about in the Cessna 152. Everytime I take off I have the same problem. I pull back on the yoke and initially I get good climb then the nose starts to dip and if I pull back harder I then get a stall warning.

I set trim for take off, 10 degrees flaps, full throttle, rotate at 50kts.

What am I doing wrong?

I would say take off less aggressively, clime at a rate where the airspeed increases as opposed to rate of climb so you can get the flaps up as soon as. I'm no pilot but doesn't pitch=speed and power=pitch or something like that.

I was having a similar issue with the Grand Caravan - get the initial positive rate, then reduce pitch so that you pick up speed then you can increase pitch again. Same in the airliners, if you look at the A320NX then it's a 15-17.5 degree pitch up to about 1500MSL then drops to 3 degrees to pick up speed and get rid of flaps, then pitch up again. So probably similar idea for the props.

[mikef]

With a single stage of flap, ease pressure on your nose wheel at 50kts, but don’t rush to point skywards, you’ll lift off naturally. Your vertical airspeed indicator will be your primary indication of pitch, but if that’s yo-yoing, try to keep your attitude indicator (artificial horizon) one bar into the blue. At 70 knots, lose the flap and compensate gently for the change in pitch. Continue to climb at around 75 knots, you can dial in some elevator trim, but don’t forget to redo trim when you level out at your circuit or cruise altitude

If everything is set up right, whether on climb out, approach or cruise, you can take your hands off the controls and she will fly steady

[Scabutz]

Thanks peeps. Will give those tips a try.

I've nearly finished printing the parts for my rudder pedals. Looking forward to getting them set up. Currently using a button on the yoke which sucks as its full left or full right with no in between.

[mikef]

Takeoff roll in the Cessna must be interesting then