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Sadly haven't had a chance to play since last week as I'm about to move house. Friend downloaded it for 20 pounds and we were looking forward to a co-op session but when he fired it up he got all the problems I seem to have sidestepped, so that put the kibosh on that. Going to install it on a Surface Book 2 and hope to bump in to someone out and about that also has it on PC 
Also, I bought the super dooper edition and didn't even notice about the bag! I'm not that fussed though, I look good in the BoS helmet which is pretty decent quality. The 24 plastic figures that came with it went back in the box, so forgettable and reeking of afterthought were they.
Also, I bought the super dooper edition and didn't even notice about the bag! I'm not that fussed though, I look good in the BoS helmet which is pretty decent quality. The 24 plastic figures that came with it went back in the box, so forgettable and reeking of afterthought were they.
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Pommy said:
I'm a bit lost in all the noise about this game - can anyone give me a tldr about what's wrong with it?
- It's an asset flip of Fo4 despite Bethesda promising it was amazing, new, 4x better textures, etc.
- It has all the bugs that unmodded unpatched Fo4 had, despite the above. They couldn't even be bothered to engage the modding community to bring in all the bug fixes that others did on Fo4 for them.
- It's buggy as hell. Like Alpha buggy. Despite the "beta" programme.
- They engaged in False Advertising on the Collector's Edition and their handling of it has been shameful.
- Likewise the game itself.
- The game doesn't really know what it wants to be and tries to be all things to all people but ends up being no things to all people.
It's still pretty fun though. I find it very relaxing to Potter about (only playing solo) and actually quite tense at times, certainly more than 4. I never played FO before 3 and it's not as compelling as that or New Vegas but it is still pretty decent. I've never experienced any major bugs though, although the building can be irritating if you're not in a totally flat but of ground, something they're seemingly patching shortly
OK quick question, having sunk 100's of hours into FO4 and loved every second of it, am I better off getting 76 or going back to try New Vegas?
FO4 is the only one in the series I've played, but I've heard nothing but good things about NV, which makes me think if I can dig out my old PS3 it might be better to spend time on that.
FO4 is the only one in the series I've played, but I've heard nothing but good things about NV, which makes me think if I can dig out my old PS3 it might be better to spend time on that.
InitialDave said:
Depends which aspects of 4 you enjoyed.
Just the whole thing generally. Crafting was a little mundane at times, but it wasn't a necessity so if you didn't want to you didn't have to.I guess that's what was so good about it, it gave you the opportunity to go off and make the game what you wanted it to be.
Easily the best game I've played.
InitialDave said:
Depends which aspects of 4 you enjoyed, but NV is a solid choice. It may feel a little clunky in places, but it's an excellent game.
There's DLC for it as well - Dead Money is especially good.
Yup. Fo3 and Fo:NV are both very good (although showing their age, obviously). Very good stories, and the DLCs are superb too. Point Lookout was a great DLC. There's DLC for it as well - Dead Money is especially good.
New Vegas is a better choice driven story with different results generated depending on what course of action you take.
New Vegas also introduced hunger and thirst modelling so you need to make sure you find food and water, the ability to swap clothes/armour to blend in. Wear bandit gear and not get attacked by bandits same with other factions. Graphics do need updating, not sure if you can with consoles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QnZkAOEyjA
New Vegas also introduced hunger and thirst modelling so you need to make sure you find food and water, the ability to swap clothes/armour to blend in. Wear bandit gear and not get attacked by bandits same with other factions. Graphics do need updating, not sure if you can with consoles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QnZkAOEyjA
One of the things that I always liked about Fo3 was the whole "humanity hanging onto civilisation by its fingertips" post-apocalyptic vibe.
With Fo:NV, I felt that it was more "hey, humanity is kind of doing ok". And then in Fo4 it was "was there even a war? Everything is great, we have power, robots, advanced tech, and... why hasn't anyone cleared up these skeletons and junk in all that time?"
So in that respect, I feel like the Fallout series has rather lost its way somewhat.
With Fo:NV, I felt that it was more "hey, humanity is kind of doing ok". And then in Fo4 it was "was there even a war? Everything is great, we have power, robots, advanced tech, and... why hasn't anyone cleared up these skeletons and junk in all that time?"
So in that respect, I feel like the Fallout series has rather lost its way somewhat.
Leicester Loyal said:
Anyone been in the blast zone of a nuke yet? Was some ridiculously high level creatures and some great teamwork going on to take them down when I was the other day.
Went to Whitesprings after a nuke - glowing ones galore and about a dozen players virtually all using melee weapons. To say chaos ensured would be an understatement but did come away with s quite a few legendary weapons and armour pieces.Seemingly if you just tag each glowing one in the post-nuke area (1 shot on each) you'll be counted on their kill and get the loot-spawns. Seems a smart way of approaching, hang back a bit, ping as many as possible with a rifle / pistol / whatever, then get involved in killing them properly
Oh, they rather made a bad situation worse...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/12/05/a...
Such a shame how much they're fecking this up
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/12/05/a...
news story said:
In what may very well be the most bizarre and unsettling twist in the ongoing saga that is Fallout 76, players reported Wednesday that they inadvertently gained access to the support tickets of fellow Fallout 76 players.
Not only did other gamers gain access to these tickets, they were able to see personal information such as addresses, phone numbers and credit card information.
It gets weirder, of course---I'm not sure it could get any worse---because not only could players see this information, they could actually edit and resolve support tickets themselves, giving them all sorts of power over the fates of their fellow Fallout 76 players. Many of these tickets were apparently related to the canvas bag kerfuffle surrounding the $200 Power Armor Edition of the game---a controversy that feels quaint compared to what just happened today.
This is, to put it mildly, beyond shocking and a massive invasion of privacy. The implications of this security breach could haunt Bethesda well into the future---certainly more than the usual Bethesda glitch. While the issue appears to have been resolved, it's more than a little unsettling to think that anyone with bad intentions could have grabbed up loads of personal information from Fallout 76 players. What they do with that information is best left unspoken. Suffice to say, if you submitted a support ticket to Bethesda, be vigilant.
Writing on the Fallout 76 subreddit, user u/Jessiepie revealed what was going on, though other players quickly discovered that they, too, could see and edit other support tickets:
Hi guys! First time Reddit poster here. I am a gleeful vault dweller as yourselves and as of this moment I am receiving every single one of your support tickets on my Bethesda account. Mostly it's your receipts for you power armor set requesting a new bag. These receipts contain all your info. Your email and home address and the card you used to buy this extremely glitched game. I can see the problems you are having with the game, yes I'm having them too. And I know a few of you want a refund that Bethesda has said can't happen. I can update your ticket for you, if you'd like. And close it! How fun is that? Please rest assure I have no desire to stalk you or mess with your Fallout 76 experience. I just wanted to let y'all know that this is happening atm. Anyway, I gave Bethesda a heads up via the Twitter. So we will see. I wouldn't want to be the person having to respond to all of you. Currently there's 8 pages of canvas bag requests, tickets and "fix or refund me" demands. Is there anyone enjoying the game like me? Oh well! See you in Appalachia. Be nice to each other. I love you!
On the Bethesda forums, a user opened a thread with this:
Beware with what information you put in your tickets, cause they are basically public !
I went on the support website today, to update a ticket of mine, and surprisingly (or not...) I ended up being able to see all sorts of tickets, with people putting their personnal informations in them, like receipt screenshots, names, addresses and so on. I'm assuming this is a bug in the website, because I don't see for what reason Bethesda would make tickets public.
I'm not going to paste screenshots of what I have access to for the privacy of people, but I can see receipts of people from all over the world, and if I can, other people probably can too.
It seems like the code of the web site sucks as much as the one of the game.
Please wake up Bethesda, this is becoming really serious here. You might wanna fire all your disabled coders ASAP, for the good of the players and the Fallout series, thanks.
Both posts initially included screenshots as proof but those were, understandably, taken down to protect private information. And while Bethesda has told customers that the issue has been resolved, there has been no other communication assuring customers of the security of their private information. Bethesda even locked the threads on their own support site, shutting down discussion (though discussion continues on reddit, Twitter and elsewhere.)
This is, if you hadn't gathered yet, a very big deal. It's a much bigger deal than the nylon "bag-gate" controversy. It's honestly a bigger deal than Fallout 76 not being very good. Somehow Bethesda allowed anyone with a computer, an internet connection and a Bethesda account to have access to hundreds of other players' support tickets and private information as well as the ability to edit and close those tickets. I can't even.
Hopefully we get a more detailed statement from the publisher soon. I've reached out to Bethesda for comment and will update this post when we learn more.
Good grief.
I've been a fan of Bethesda for some time but this is a seriously big error, they'd better hope not too many EU users were affected / make a claim. Not only did other gamers gain access to these tickets, they were able to see personal information such as addresses, phone numbers and credit card information.
It gets weirder, of course---I'm not sure it could get any worse---because not only could players see this information, they could actually edit and resolve support tickets themselves, giving them all sorts of power over the fates of their fellow Fallout 76 players. Many of these tickets were apparently related to the canvas bag kerfuffle surrounding the $200 Power Armor Edition of the game---a controversy that feels quaint compared to what just happened today.
This is, to put it mildly, beyond shocking and a massive invasion of privacy. The implications of this security breach could haunt Bethesda well into the future---certainly more than the usual Bethesda glitch. While the issue appears to have been resolved, it's more than a little unsettling to think that anyone with bad intentions could have grabbed up loads of personal information from Fallout 76 players. What they do with that information is best left unspoken. Suffice to say, if you submitted a support ticket to Bethesda, be vigilant.
Writing on the Fallout 76 subreddit, user u/Jessiepie revealed what was going on, though other players quickly discovered that they, too, could see and edit other support tickets:
Hi guys! First time Reddit poster here. I am a gleeful vault dweller as yourselves and as of this moment I am receiving every single one of your support tickets on my Bethesda account. Mostly it's your receipts for you power armor set requesting a new bag. These receipts contain all your info. Your email and home address and the card you used to buy this extremely glitched game. I can see the problems you are having with the game, yes I'm having them too. And I know a few of you want a refund that Bethesda has said can't happen. I can update your ticket for you, if you'd like. And close it! How fun is that? Please rest assure I have no desire to stalk you or mess with your Fallout 76 experience. I just wanted to let y'all know that this is happening atm. Anyway, I gave Bethesda a heads up via the Twitter. So we will see. I wouldn't want to be the person having to respond to all of you. Currently there's 8 pages of canvas bag requests, tickets and "fix or refund me" demands. Is there anyone enjoying the game like me? Oh well! See you in Appalachia. Be nice to each other. I love you!
On the Bethesda forums, a user opened a thread with this:
Beware with what information you put in your tickets, cause they are basically public !
I went on the support website today, to update a ticket of mine, and surprisingly (or not...) I ended up being able to see all sorts of tickets, with people putting their personnal informations in them, like receipt screenshots, names, addresses and so on. I'm assuming this is a bug in the website, because I don't see for what reason Bethesda would make tickets public.
I'm not going to paste screenshots of what I have access to for the privacy of people, but I can see receipts of people from all over the world, and if I can, other people probably can too.
It seems like the code of the web site sucks as much as the one of the game.
Please wake up Bethesda, this is becoming really serious here. You might wanna fire all your disabled coders ASAP, for the good of the players and the Fallout series, thanks.
Both posts initially included screenshots as proof but those were, understandably, taken down to protect private information. And while Bethesda has told customers that the issue has been resolved, there has been no other communication assuring customers of the security of their private information. Bethesda even locked the threads on their own support site, shutting down discussion (though discussion continues on reddit, Twitter and elsewhere.)
This is, if you hadn't gathered yet, a very big deal. It's a much bigger deal than the nylon "bag-gate" controversy. It's honestly a bigger deal than Fallout 76 not being very good. Somehow Bethesda allowed anyone with a computer, an internet connection and a Bethesda account to have access to hundreds of other players' support tickets and private information as well as the ability to edit and close those tickets. I can't even.
Hopefully we get a more detailed statement from the publisher soon. I've reached out to Bethesda for comment and will update this post when we learn more.
Good grief.
Such a shame how much they're fecking this up
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