Gran Turismo 6....Official thread.

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y2blade said:

RobbieKB said:

y2blade said:

RobbieKB said:

Anyone tried the real life '13 Viper GT-3 tune? I was quite impressed. I got a faster Nordschleife lap time in the GT3 Viper (618pp) than a 650pp Huayra.

Nope, have you got a link for it please?

Sure, I'll stick it in here so people can copy it directly:

Buy a SRT Viper GTS '13. Buy front aero c, underbody/rear diffuser, rear wing c and the rear view mirror b (in other parts). BBS LM-R are closest to original. Reinforce the chassis.
Used colors for picture: Car: Bright White Black Stripe Wheel: ---

Parts to buy:

racing tires
FC suspension
racing brakes
fc gearbox
LSD
tripple-plate clutch
racing exhaust
stage 3 weight reduction

and the setup:

height:84/86
spring:14.30/13.98
damp ext:8/7
damp com:5/5
roll:4/4
cam:1.8/1.4
toe:-0.04/0.31

brakes:6/5

trans:
first set the final gear to 3.580 then the top speed to 250kph/155mph
1st:3.247
2nd:2.318
3rd:1.756
4th:1.440
5th:1.260
6th:1.120
Final:2.57

LSD
int:13
acc:36
bra:17

powerlimit: 689PS/680HP/507kw ~99,7%

Downforce: 0/20

weight: add 35 kg to position +25 (1295 kg @ 49/51)

side note:
The power of the car is unrestricted, in the different GT3-series it will be limited by the BOD. It's impossible to set all gears right, so I decided to have at least gear 4-6 right, 1-3 ratios are 2.64;2.07;1.69.
Also note that we can't get the downforce, the real car has, so it might not be competitive with the GT3 cars ingame.

Awesome thank you, I'l try that tomorrow evening

Tried it, great tune

Also stuck a tune loosely based on it on my new style Corvette too
Thanks again

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TrackTalentUK said:

I'm running a 15 lap race at Brands Hatch Indy at 20:00GMT tonight. 550PP, sports softs, if anybody is interested. Just look out for Challenge Cup.

Thanks, What is your PSN ID?

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Does anyone have a decent tune for the Deltawing please?

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MocMocaMoc said:

y2blade said:

TrackTalentUK said:

I'm running a 15 lap race at Brands Hatch Indy at 20:00GMT tonight. 550PP, sports softs, if anybody is interested. Just look out for Challenge Cup.

Thanks, What is your PSN ID?

How fellas!

That was me in the Xbow earlier today, BlackBeltJones! I didn't go looking for a PH lobby, just stumbled in and noticed y2blade! What are the chances.

Some good racing! Pleased I found you. y2blade, I'll add you on PSN shortly : )

cheers mate, nice to meet you

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E65Ross said:

I'd love to see the McLaren P1 in there but not sure whether it'll happen or not. Pulls 2G in the corners according to autocar!! For a road car that is unheard of!

+1

Not sure it'll come to GT as it is on Forza, it is very arcadey on there though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zILWzD4H8Gk

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If anyone here is any good at tuning and fancies a go at the Ferrari GTO "1984"

I'd really appreciate it

Mine is as follows:
PP 526
bhp 393
weight 1078
front/rear weight distribution 47:53


I just can't get it to grip at all on sports mediums... Not on corner entry or exit, I've messed about with the Diff settings for ages.


Thank you

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mr_oversteer said:

YHM

Got it and replied, thank you buddy

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I still can't get my head around diff settings

30
30
10

Works perfect on all my MR Ferraris except the one I love.

The GTO....it just won't grip on corner entry, just wants to pivot around it's centre axis no matter what I do with the diff!!!


Sooo frustrating, i have a setting to try tomorrow thanks to MrOversteer.

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Chris Stott said:

y2blade said:

I still can't get my head around diff settings

30
30
10

Works perfect on all my MR Ferraris except the one I love.

The GTO....it just won't grip on corner entry, just wants to pivot around it's centre axis no matter what I do with the diff!!!


Sooo frustrating, i have a setting to try tomorrow thanks to MrOversteer.

Are you struggling with too much oversteer on corner entry?

If so, you can do a few things (I haven't driven the GTO, but these settings help other MR cars with too much rotation on entry...

1. Increase your LSD decel
2. More positive rear toe
3. More front brake bias
4. Lower front and/or higher rear ride height (Ride height is the wrong way round in the game)
5. Stiffer rear springs/dampers (if nothing else works, as this can have a negative effect on exit grip)
6. Add some front ballast
7. Add negative front camber (last resort as doing this is reducing front grip - given anything other than 0/0 gives less grip in GT6 for some unknown reason)

The F40 and GTO have a very different balance to the 430/458/Enzo, which don't really handle like most MR's in the game - they predominately understeer (though much less than in GT5).

Edited by Chris Stott on Thursday 23 January 11:56

cianha said:

Good guide to LSD settings here: http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/lsd-guide-su...

Hard to explain, but I've found that reducing it to the point where you see the inside wheel start to light up on corner exit, then gradually locking it up, is a quicker way to get to the preferred feel, rather than reducing it incrementally from the default value until it stops kicking you sideways.

Thanks guys Will have a go at sorting it tonight.

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Alfanatic said:

y2blade said:

Chris Stott said:

y2blade said:

I still can't get my head around diff settings

30
30
10

Works perfect on all my MR Ferraris except the one I love.

The GTO....it just won't grip on corner entry, just wants to pivot around it's centre axis no matter what I do with the diff!!!


Sooo frustrating, i have a setting to try tomorrow thanks to MrOversteer.

Are you struggling with too much oversteer on corner entry?

If so, you can do a few things (I haven't driven the GTO, but these settings help other MR cars with too much rotation on entry...

1. Increase your LSD decel
2. More positive rear toe
3. More front brake bias
4. Lower front and/or higher rear ride height (Ride height is the wrong way round in the game)
5. Stiffer rear springs/dampers (if nothing else works, as this can have a negative effect on exit grip)
6. Add some front ballast
7. Add negative front camber (last resort as doing this is reducing front grip - given anything other than 0/0 gives less grip in GT6 for some unknown reason)

The F40 and GTO have a very different balance to the 430/458/Enzo, which don't really handle like most MR's in the game - they predominately understeer (though much less than in GT5).

Edited by Chris Stott on Thursday 23 January 11:56

cianha said:

Good guide to LSD settings here: http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/lsd-guide-su...

Hard to explain, but I've found that reducing it to the point where you see the inside wheel start to light up on corner exit, then gradually locking it up, is a quicker way to get to the preferred feel, rather than reducing it incrementally from the default value until it stops kicking you sideways.

Thanks guys Will have a go at sorting it tonight.

My Esprit V8, on sports mediums but standard wheels and suspension, was almost impossible to control. The back end stepped out at any opportunity and the window to successfully catch the slide was tiny. The margin between not steering into the slide enough and spinning, and steering too much and snapping off the circuit the other way, was too small for me to hit and it was all violent and unpredictable. The car was on a knife edge all of the time. I was very disappointed that they had ruined one of my favourite GT cars in this way.

20 minutes later I entered a different event and had to change to sports hards. Same car, and it was as progressive as you could want. A peach of a car, and it felt pretty much like the car I'd enjoyed so much in GT5.

In hindsight, the handling on the sports mediums felt very similar to the handling problems caused by the aftermarket wheel bug, but I was running standard wheels, and on patch 1.03.

I've had a similar experience swapping from aftermarket suspension back to standard on other cars.

I say this because I find the 288GTO to have a fair amount of initial understeer, and to be quite progressive when the back slides. It wasn't particularly unruly. So perhaps you do have some tuning problems on the car, but I'd suggest swapping the tyres for, well, anything else really, see if that transforms the car, then try put standard suspension back on and try, then swap out the LSD. I have a suspicion that the handling bug is still there, and others have confirmed that the pitstop races in the S series still have the pitstop handling bug.

So try all that first before thinking it's something you did.

As for tuning the LSD, if I have oversteer on corner entry (off throttle) I increase the decel. I keep the accel as low as I can get away with. If I get rampant wheelspin on the inside wheel on corner exit, enough that I'm not actually accelerating, then I bump the accel up a bit. But when it's too tight then I get grip...grip...grip... oops I'm facing the wrong way. Changing the preload is supposed to affect this but still, I don't like them and only use them when I just can't get by without it.

Thank you, will try that tomorrow afternoon.

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y2blade said:

Alfanatic said:

y2blade said:

Chris Stott said:

y2blade said:

I still can't get my head around diff settings

30
30
10

Works perfect on all my MR Ferraris except the one I love.

The GTO....it just won't grip on corner entry, just wants to pivot around it's centre axis no matter what I do with the diff!!!


Sooo frustrating, i have a setting to try tomorrow thanks to MrOversteer.

Are you struggling with too much oversteer on corner entry?

If so, you can do a few things (I haven't driven the GTO, but these settings help other MR cars with too much rotation on entry...

1. Increase your LSD decel
2. More positive rear toe
3. More front brake bias
4. Lower front and/or higher rear ride height (Ride height is the wrong way round in the game)
5. Stiffer rear springs/dampers (if nothing else works, as this can have a negative effect on exit grip)
6. Add some front ballast
7. Add negative front camber (last resort as doing this is reducing front grip - given anything other than 0/0 gives less grip in GT6 for some unknown reason)

The F40 and GTO have a very different balance to the 430/458/Enzo, which don't really handle like most MR's in the game - they predominately understeer (though much less than in GT5).

Edited by Chris Stott on Thursday 23 January 11:56

cianha said:

Good guide to LSD settings here: http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/lsd-guide-su...

Hard to explain, but I've found that reducing it to the point where you see the inside wheel start to light up on corner exit, then gradually locking it up, is a quicker way to get to the preferred feel, rather than reducing it incrementally from the default value until it stops kicking you sideways.

Thanks guys Will have a go at sorting it tonight.

My Esprit V8, on sports mediums but standard wheels and suspension, was almost impossible to control. The back end stepped out at any opportunity and the window to successfully catch the slide was tiny. The margin between not steering into the slide enough and spinning, and steering too much and snapping off the circuit the other way, was too small for me to hit and it was all violent and unpredictable. The car was on a knife edge all of the time. I was very disappointed that they had ruined one of my favourite GT cars in this way.

20 minutes later I entered a different event and had to change to sports hards. Same car, and it was as progressive as you could want. A peach of a car, and it felt pretty much like the car I'd enjoyed so much in GT5.

In hindsight, the handling on the sports mediums felt very similar to the handling problems caused by the aftermarket wheel bug, but I was running standard wheels, and on patch 1.03.

I've had a similar experience swapping from aftermarket suspension back to standard on other cars.

I say this because I find the 288GTO to have a fair amount of initial understeer, and to be quite progressive when the back slides. It wasn't particularly unruly. So perhaps you do have some tuning problems on the car, but I'd suggest swapping the tyres for, well, anything else really, see if that transforms the car, then try put standard suspension back on and try, then swap out the LSD. I have a suspicion that the handling bug is still there, and others have confirmed that the pitstop races in the S series still have the pitstop handling bug.

So try all that first before thinking it's something you did.

As for tuning the LSD, if I have oversteer on corner entry (off throttle) I increase the decel. I keep the accel as low as I can get away with. If I get rampant wheelspin on the inside wheel on corner exit, enough that I'm not actually accelerating, then I bump the accel up a bit. But when it's too tight then I get grip...grip...grip... oops I'm facing the wrong way. Changing the preload is supposed to affect this but still, I don't like them and only use them when I just can't get by without it.

Thank you, will try that tomorrow afternoon.

Alfanatic I just did exactly that..made note of my susp & diff settings then took everything off (put the car back to standard) back to main screen and saved it then back in and tested it completely stock, car drive better but still a bit tail happy.
Then put suspension and diff back on and applied my previous settings....went out saved it then tested it.

Transformed totally.


Thanks all

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JDMDrifter said:

Im up to the last license and its just not keeping me entertained

ONLINE with fellow PHers!

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TUUUUUUUUUNES

https://sites.google.com/site/gt6tunes/general

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CharlieCrocodile said:

SystemParanoia said:

its all about the delta wing make it a challenge

Took me forever to find the Delta Wing last night in the dealerships. You're right, its a challenge!

I have a decent tune for it if anyone wants to try it?

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Alfanatic said:

y2blade said:

CharlieCrocodile said:

SystemParanoia said:

its all about the delta wing make it a challenge

Took me forever to find the Delta Wing last night in the dealerships. You're right, its a challenge!

I have a decent tune for it if anyone wants to try it?

Is it some decent delta blues?

I see what you did there

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cianha said:

SystemParanoia said:

iom ?

we can hope

azunori Yamauchi made a special appearance at the Taipei Game Show this weekend, and the first announcements are coming in from Taiwanese sites Gamerhotline and UDN (as kindly translated by our own Yui-san).

Based around the town of Zahara de la Sierra in Andalusia, Spain, the new track will be the longest in GT6 - longer than even the Nurburgring Nordschleife’s 26km of tarmac. As previously announced, it will be released in February, along with the Red Bull X2014 Standard and X2014 “Fan Car” models.

Red Bull X2014 Standard

Kazunori was also able to confirm a report that five functioning Mercedes-Benz Vision GT Concept cars will be produced, based upon the 2014 SLS AMG car.

One particularly interesting thing revealed in the discussion is Polyphony Digital’s “one person, one car” policy. As the name implies, each car model in Gran Turismo is built from top-to-bottom by a single person, to promote the Japanese concept of “shokunin” – a master craftsman or artisan.

When asked about future developments, Kazunori confirmed that Polyphony’s primary focus remains on updating Gran Turismo 6, although work on the next-generation GT7 is already well underway.

The new track is reported to be 27kms, so yes it is longer than the Nordshiefe....by 1km

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E65Ross said:

quite a big update. Also in the dealer it clearly states whether a car is premium by saying whether the interior is detailed or not.

You could see that anyway, just look at the windows...if you can see through the car it is premium...if it is blacked out then it isn't.

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MocMocaMoc said:

ecsrobin said:

Anyone want to share their's?

No.

No.

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Darkdice said:

Update downloading. Bout time, other than online I've had nothing to do for weeks!

How big is it Dice?

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Has anyone noticed any change in the tyre physics since last update?

I haven't!