Gran Turismo Sport PS4
Discussion
Lynchie999 said:
ferrisbueller said:
Chris Stott said:
Brands is a difficult track to overtake on... only really safe place is in to Druids. Can be done in to Graham Hill and Surtees, but you need a much better exit form the previous corner to set these up.
People trying to overtake on the back half of the track are generally idiots.
Oh yes. Pisses me off hugely.People trying to overtake on the back half of the track are generally idiots.
4 good races at Nurb GP tonight. 3 x wins, 1 x 2nd.
Set a decent 1’55.4 in qualifying, and got pole in the 1st 3 races. Lead 2 from start to finish, the other one I got launched in to the air off a cone outside of turn 2 lap 1, and had to close a 2s gap, before making a clean pass at the chicane, end of lap 3, and continue for the win.
4th race Nissman turned up (top qualifier), plus another faster than me. Got past 2nd early lap 1, but Nissman already had over 1s on me, which he stretched to 1.5s, before I came back final lap to lose by just under a second. Missed fastest lap by less than 0.1.
Love Nurb GP in the RSR. It’s a great test of trail braking, carrying just the right entry speed in to the slow corners, and nailing the final chicane.
Alongside Suzuka & Brands, my best track.
Set a decent 1’55.4 in qualifying, and got pole in the 1st 3 races. Lead 2 from start to finish, the other one I got launched in to the air off a cone outside of turn 2 lap 1, and had to close a 2s gap, before making a clean pass at the chicane, end of lap 3, and continue for the win.
4th race Nissman turned up (top qualifier), plus another faster than me. Got past 2nd early lap 1, but Nissman already had over 1s on me, which he stretched to 1.5s, before I came back final lap to lose by just under a second. Missed fastest lap by less than 0.1.
Love Nurb GP in the RSR. It’s a great test of trail braking, carrying just the right entry speed in to the slow corners, and nailing the final chicane.
Alongside Suzuka & Brands, my best track.
chunder27 said:
So far I have to admit I find the online side of the game just a horrendous trawl.
Endless rammers and cretins who cant drive and will do anything to pass you, and then crash in front of you meaning you usually hit them and get penalized
I would rather see the whole thing ghosted to be honest, the rating system is a complete nonsense.
HAve been CC for days now despite racing a few times every day and the vast majority of incidents I ahve had have been caused by other people, not me being forceful
Getting up the ranks things get cleaner. Endless rammers and cretins who cant drive and will do anything to pass you, and then crash in front of you meaning you usually hit them and get penalized
I would rather see the whole thing ghosted to be honest, the rating system is a complete nonsense.
HAve been CC for days now despite racing a few times every day and the vast majority of incidents I ahve had have been caused by other people, not me being forceful
If you do some races without qualifying and then make some spacesnup through the race simply by driving round cleanly and waiting for others to off or take each other out and you will soon get higher
ferrisbueller said:
Lynchie999 said:
ferrisbueller said:
Chris Stott said:
Brands is a difficult track to overtake on... only really safe place is in to Druids. Can be done in to Graham Hill and Surtees, but you need a much better exit form the previous corner to set these up.
People trying to overtake on the back half of the track are generally idiots.
Oh yes. Pisses me off hugely.People trying to overtake on the back half of the track are generally idiots.
Chris Stott said:
4 good races at Nurb GP tonight. 3 x wins, 1 x 2nd.
Set a decent 1’55.4 in qualifying, and got pole in the 1st 3 races.
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Love Nurb GP in the RSR. It’s a great test of trail braking, carrying just the right entry speed in to the slow corners, and nailing the final chicane.
Alongside Suzuka & Brands, my best track.
I'll say! I had 5-6 laps in qualifying and couldn't break the 2 min barrier so was 5 seconds off you. But I hate that track!! Set a decent 1’55.4 in qualifying, and got pole in the 1st 3 races.
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Love Nurb GP in the RSR. It’s a great test of trail braking, carrying just the right entry speed in to the slow corners, and nailing the final chicane.
Alongside Suzuka & Brands, my best track.
maybe I need to try the RSR, I was in the AMG, but I'm still a massive chunk downskinny said:
Chris Stott said:
4 good races at Nurb GP tonight. 3 x wins, 1 x 2nd.
Set a decent 1’55.4 in qualifying, and got pole in the 1st 3 races.
...
Love Nurb GP in the RSR. It’s a great test of trail braking, carrying just the right entry speed in to the slow corners, and nailing the final chicane.
Alongside Suzuka & Brands, my best track.
I'll say! I had 5-6 laps in qualifying and couldn't break the 2 min barrier so was 5 seconds off you. But I hate that track!! Set a decent 1’55.4 in qualifying, and got pole in the 1st 3 races.
...
Love Nurb GP in the RSR. It’s a great test of trail braking, carrying just the right entry speed in to the slow corners, and nailing the final chicane.
Alongside Suzuka & Brands, my best track.
maybe I need to try the RSR, I was in the AMG, but I'm still a massive chunk downThe AMG is decently fast, but it's a bit of a boat compared to the RSR. Only thing with the RSR is the is the gearing is quite long, so to be really fast you need to use 1st gear on a number of corners, which puts some pressure on throttle control. If you'e still over 2 mins you could use 2nd though, which really calms the oversteer down.
Watch some of the top 10 replays and find the brake points. They are critical on Nurb GP as there are so many slow speed corners you have to get your entry speed spot on to maximise exit speed.
Chris Stott said:
skinny said:
Chris Stott said:
4 good races at Nurb GP tonight. 3 x wins, 1 x 2nd.
Set a decent 1’55.4 in qualifying, and got pole in the 1st 3 races.
...
Love Nurb GP in the RSR. It’s a great test of trail braking, carrying just the right entry speed in to the slow corners, and nailing the final chicane.
Alongside Suzuka & Brands, my best track.
I'll say! I had 5-6 laps in qualifying and couldn't break the 2 min barrier so was 5 seconds off you. But I hate that track!! Set a decent 1’55.4 in qualifying, and got pole in the 1st 3 races.
...
Love Nurb GP in the RSR. It’s a great test of trail braking, carrying just the right entry speed in to the slow corners, and nailing the final chicane.
Alongside Suzuka & Brands, my best track.
maybe I need to try the RSR, I was in the AMG, but I'm still a massive chunk downThe AMG is decently fast, but it's a bit of a boat compared to the RSR. Only thing with the RSR is the is the gearing is quite long, so to be really fast you need to use 1st gear on a number of corners, which puts some pressure on throttle control. If you'e still over 2 mins you could use 2nd though, which really calms the oversteer down.
Watch some of the top 10 replays and find the brake points. They are critical on Nurb GP as there are so many slow speed corners you have to get your entry speed spot on to maximise exit speed.
A "safe" lap, using 2nd to tame wheelspin and keeping a bit of margin is about 1:58 in the RSR. That should be doable in the AMG purely based on straightline speed. I'd concentrate on getting good drive out of the corners, at the expense of entry and apex speed, and let the horsepower do the rest.
The Daily Cs were interesting yesterday.
I was racing in fields of DR A and S. The top 6 in each race weren't pitting. Without a stop my laptime tailed off to 2:33 or so. The short pitlane at Kyoto meant you could get in and out in quick time and run a pace not far off qually at 2:29 so the pitstop was more than offset by pace over the 6 laps, especially if you ran clean for the duration. However, the winners were running 2:29s on the final lap on 5 lap old tyres which were almost fully red on the graphic. Again, I'm just looking at that asking "how?"......
I was racing in fields of DR A and S. The top 6 in each race weren't pitting. Without a stop my laptime tailed off to 2:33 or so. The short pitlane at Kyoto meant you could get in and out in quick time and run a pace not far off qually at 2:29 so the pitstop was more than offset by pace over the 6 laps, especially if you ran clean for the duration. However, the winners were running 2:29s on the final lap on 5 lap old tyres which were almost fully red on the graphic. Again, I'm just looking at that asking "how?"......
DIdnt realise you’re on the DS4, Ferris. You’re times are very good for a non wheel user.
I can normally stretch my tyres out by avoiding sliding them too much, but once they get below half worn they become tricky. A wheel will certainly help here as you can be more precise on steering angle and throttle.
Less grip = more advantage for a wheel user IMO.
I can normally stretch my tyres out by avoiding sliding them too much, but once they get below half worn they become tricky. A wheel will certainly help here as you can be more precise on steering angle and throttle.
Less grip = more advantage for a wheel user IMO.
The way the steering works with the DS4 (effectively a variable rack ratio as far as I can tell) mean you invariably scrub speed, wear the tyres harder and slide more. You can't help putting in more steering angle than is needed and because you can't "feel" it, by the time you ease out of the throttle you've already done damage.
I give up with this garbage system
Two races after work earlier. Every single one I did absolutely nothing wrong and yet my SR rating is bumping down routinely due to people driving into me.
How on earth can a person driving into me and me not moving, or blocking be anything to do with my SR dropping.
The system makes no sense to me, I drive in car so it is virtually impossible at times to see where people are, and to be honest they just drive into all the time anyway.
never experience such a flawed system in my gaming life.
Piss poor.
the ONLY ways you can use it to work for you is to be a God, or to wait for 30 seconds andlet the field just get away.
And that is not the vast majority of people now is it.
Two races after work earlier. Every single one I did absolutely nothing wrong and yet my SR rating is bumping down routinely due to people driving into me.
How on earth can a person driving into me and me not moving, or blocking be anything to do with my SR dropping.
The system makes no sense to me, I drive in car so it is virtually impossible at times to see where people are, and to be honest they just drive into all the time anyway.
never experience such a flawed system in my gaming life.
Piss poor.
the ONLY ways you can use it to work for you is to be a God, or to wait for 30 seconds andlet the field just get away.
And that is not the vast majority of people now is it.
chunder27 said:
I give up with this garbage system
Two races after work earlier. Every single one I did absolutely nothing wrong and yet my SR rating is bumping down routinely due to people driving into me.
How on earth can a person driving into me and me not moving, or blocking be anything to do with my SR dropping.
The system makes no sense to me, I drive in car so it is virtually impossible at times to see where people are, and to be honest they just drive into all the time anyway.
never experience such a flawed system in my gaming life.
Piss poor.
the ONLY ways you can use it to work for you is to be a God, or to wait for 30 seconds andlet the field just get away.
And that is not the vast majority of people now is it.
I stressed about it as I want to race as clean as my abilities allow and have a high SR. I've now given up worrying about it and just race as best I can trying to avoid the idiots where possible. I'll worry about it more if the system is ever fixed. Two races after work earlier. Every single one I did absolutely nothing wrong and yet my SR rating is bumping down routinely due to people driving into me.
How on earth can a person driving into me and me not moving, or blocking be anything to do with my SR dropping.
The system makes no sense to me, I drive in car so it is virtually impossible at times to see where people are, and to be honest they just drive into all the time anyway.
never experience such a flawed system in my gaming life.
Piss poor.
the ONLY ways you can use it to work for you is to be a God, or to wait for 30 seconds andlet the field just get away.
And that is not the vast majority of people now is it.
48Valves said:
chunder27 said:
I give up with this garbage system
Two races after work earlier. Every single one I did absolutely nothing wrong and yet my SR rating is bumping down routinely due to people driving into me.
How on earth can a person driving into me and me not moving, or blocking be anything to do with my SR dropping.
The system makes no sense to me, I drive in car so it is virtually impossible at times to see where people are, and to be honest they just drive into all the time anyway.
never experience such a flawed system in my gaming life.
Piss poor.
the ONLY ways you can use it to work for you is to be a God, or to wait for 30 seconds andlet the field just get away.
And that is not the vast majority of people now is it.
I stressed about it as I want to race as clean as my abilities allow and have a high SR. I've now given up worrying about it and just race as best I can trying to avoid the idiots where possible. I'll worry about it more if the system is ever fixed. Two races after work earlier. Every single one I did absolutely nothing wrong and yet my SR rating is bumping down routinely due to people driving into me.
How on earth can a person driving into me and me not moving, or blocking be anything to do with my SR dropping.
The system makes no sense to me, I drive in car so it is virtually impossible at times to see where people are, and to be honest they just drive into all the time anyway.
never experience such a flawed system in my gaming life.
Piss poor.
the ONLY ways you can use it to work for you is to be a God, or to wait for 30 seconds andlet the field just get away.
And that is not the vast majority of people now is it.
Sometimes, you just have to punt the idiots out of the way.
Over over under steer said:
What are people's thoughts on Traction Control and it's effects on lap times? I flutter between 1 & 2 however slow corner exits I really feel the TC kicking in, however can save me on the odd occasion I have a really off corner exit.
I'm using full G29 wheel pedal combo.
On Group 4 i have it off on 4wd, then usually just 2 on everything else, alot of MR cars are vicious on tight corners with it off and i just can't be smooth enough with a pad to control it fully without losing loads of time, all it takes is one mistake on one corner with it off and you can be 5+ places down. Together with losing control easier when people ram you etc it's just not worth it on the pad.I'm using full G29 wheel pedal combo.
You do clearly lose a fair bit of time because of it though, if you had tc off and were smooth with pedals it would make quite a difference to your time. Especially when you slow right down for a tight corner, you can feel the back end step out a tiny amount and the tc holds the power back for ages.
Never mind trying to 3 point turn if you are punted off.
Over over under steer said:
What are people's thoughts on Traction Control and it's effects on lap times? I flutter between 1 & 2 however slow corner exits I really feel the TC kicking in, however can save me on the odd occasion I have a really off corner exit.
I'm using full G29 wheel pedal combo.
Depends how fast you are really. I'm using full G29 wheel pedal combo.
If you’re at the sharp end, traction control will slow you down. But if your middling, the benefit of preventing having an accident on your own far out weighs the minor speed impact.
Personally, I used it early in the game, but I don’t use it now... but I do use CSA on grp3 cars, again for the consistency benefit. When I did use TC, I would only use level 2. Level 3 is very restrictive, and level 1 is pretty much useless.
At the end of the day, use what makes the game most enjoyable for you.
Lol
It goes form bad to worse
Tried two methods.
First was to be as quick as possible and win, which was doing OK until last two days, was up to CB. Mainly from doing real well in RX7 and truck!
Today had a couple of bad races, and went down to CC, mainly idiots making mistakes and crashing, or ramming in the first few laps, then you get dumped down the field with the cretins after they take you out.
So, tried a longer G3 race with no qually, start at back.
Went OK, finished 7th, a few dings, but nothing serious, those I had were retard rejoins and people side swiping me, for which I of course get the blame aswell. And....
Went to DE. Dropped driver rating too for Gods sake
I rest my case, this system is utterly, completely and totally flawed. As people crashing into YOU should not penalise you, it's as if, they say, you caused it aswell, you could have got out the way, should have?
I have raced Iracing and their system is a decade old now and works a million times better than this garbage. It's a real shame as for me this is a huge blot on a game I was not that keen on playing, but turned me around after trying it. But this SR thing is an utter shambles for me at least.
It goes form bad to worse
Tried two methods.
First was to be as quick as possible and win, which was doing OK until last two days, was up to CB. Mainly from doing real well in RX7 and truck!
Today had a couple of bad races, and went down to CC, mainly idiots making mistakes and crashing, or ramming in the first few laps, then you get dumped down the field with the cretins after they take you out.
So, tried a longer G3 race with no qually, start at back.
Went OK, finished 7th, a few dings, but nothing serious, those I had were retard rejoins and people side swiping me, for which I of course get the blame aswell. And....
Went to DE. Dropped driver rating too for Gods sake
I rest my case, this system is utterly, completely and totally flawed. As people crashing into YOU should not penalise you, it's as if, they say, you caused it aswell, you could have got out the way, should have?
I have raced Iracing and their system is a decade old now and works a million times better than this garbage. It's a real shame as for me this is a huge blot on a game I was not that keen on playing, but turned me around after trying it. But this SR thing is an utter shambles for me at least.
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