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After the false start with the prisoner based build I've been having a pretty good time with my current wretch based character. Using the hook claws and Claymore with the demi human spirit ashes when I can have them. I've been everywhere up to the lift of dectus above ground and I'm exploring underground at the moment. I need to clear Castle Redmane but the sword lion guy was giving me some trouble so I left it for a bit.
Trying to decide whether to respec and try some of the other weapons I have but none of them are levelled as high as the two I'm using.
Trying to decide whether to respec and try some of the other weapons I have but none of them are levelled as high as the two I'm using.
Trustmeimadoctor said:
any tips for the bosses in selia hideaway? the 3 crystal dudes?
I focused on one at a time, once you can break their poise and make them stagger then they stay like that, making them much more susceptible to damage. I personally used the mimic tear to keep them busy and flung rock sling around until I'd got the one focused on me out of the way, once that's done you should have a much easier time dealing with the remaining pair.How hard is this game? I've read pretty much the entire thread and I've been attracted/put off in equal measure.
I've happy to sink hours into a good game to get some rewards but if it's just too f*cking hard I'll bail, I tend to play for the storylines more than anything else. Also I'm desperate for that "next game" to get me hooked in. Would this be too hard for somebody that mainly plays "story mode"?
Done Red Dead, Gods of War, Assassins, Last of Us, Senua, CyberPunk, GTA, Horizons etc
I might seriously have to spend some time outside!
I've happy to sink hours into a good game to get some rewards but if it's just too f*cking hard I'll bail, I tend to play for the storylines more than anything else. Also I'm desperate for that "next game" to get me hooked in. Would this be too hard for somebody that mainly plays "story mode"?
Done Red Dead, Gods of War, Assassins, Last of Us, Senua, CyberPunk, GTA, Horizons etc
I might seriously have to spend some time outside!
There's not a story line so much, there's a lot of lore but it's well hidden and it's more the challenge of the game than the plot that keeps you moving forward.
It's not as hard as other Fromsoft games imo, if you get stuck you can just go do something else for a bit and there's even some bosses you can run past if you don't want to deal with them yet.
I've never been that big of a Fromsoft game fan but I'm really liking this.
It's not as hard as other Fromsoft games imo, if you get stuck you can just go do something else for a bit and there's even some bosses you can run past if you don't want to deal with them yet.
I've never been that big of a Fromsoft game fan but I'm really liking this.
Stevil said:
I focused on one at a time, once you can break their poise and make them stagger then they stay like that, making them much more susceptible to damage. I personally used the mimic tear to keep them busy and flung rock sling around until I'd got the one focused on me out of the way, once that's done you should have a much easier time dealing with the remaining pair.
hmm thats the tactic i tried but i do dan quick usually the spear dude just stabs me repeatedly before i get to heal Trustmeimadoctor said:
hmm thats the tactic i tried but i do dan quick usually the spear dude just stabs me repeatedly before i get to heal
Yeah it took me a few attempts, case of getting a few off, then making space once he has closed the gap, all the while avoiding the other fight taking place and trying to make sure it's done quickly enough that the mimic doesn't die.Trustmeimadoctor said:
any tips for the bosses in selia hideaway? the 3 crystal dudes?
The Crystalian type enemies have very high damage reduction until you break their poise, at which point they become extremely vulnerable to damage. They are extremely weak to striking damage, so use that against them. You can see the damage type of a weapon under it's name on the inventory page, the different types for physical weapons are strike, slash, pierce and standard. Things like maces, hammers etc, that don't have any bladed edge or thrusting attacks are nearly always strike damage. Alongside those base damage types, you will see the fire, magic, holy etc, but that's irrelevant for this fight.The Crystalians take reduced damage from everything but striking, so pick your best striking weapon and bring that along. If you're playing a melee build, or anything other than a pure magic build, I'd recommend having at least striking weapon upgraded to a decent level. The best one in the game, certainly the most useful on your first playthrough, is the Great Stars, obtained from one of those funeral processions pulled by trolls on the Altus Plateau.
If you can equip the talismans that give you bonus damage on charged attacks and guard counters, they will be useful too.
For the fight, if you have the Mimic Ashes, upgrade it as high as it will go. Don't feel concerned about putting your rare upgrade materials into it, as it is by far the best summon in the game. Prior to the fight, cast "Flame, Grant Me Strength" if you have it, and chug you mixed physik flash - set it up for increased stamina regeneration and increased strength if you have the right cracked tears to do that. Two hand your weapon to start, but have a shield equipped, as most striking weapons tend to scale well with strength and two-handing a weapon gives you an effective bonus to your strength stat of 50%. Two handing at the start will allow you to completely crush the mage before he gets a chance to do any real offense.
When the fight begins, summon the mimic, chug a potion to heal and then rush around the back of the group. The ring blade and spear enemies will probably lock onto the mimic, as it will rush in to meet them in combat. Use jumping heavy attacks, which deal big poise damage, to knock the mage to the ground. Hit him with a critical and repeat, dodge and roll away from your pursuers and focus the mage down.
As soon as the mage is dead, switch back to single-handing and let the spear Crystalian attack you and bounce off your shield, then do a guard counter. You'll only need to do this perhaps twice to stagger him. When he staggers, hit a critical and then do a charged heavy attack as he stands up and the invincibility frames in his standing up animation end. Rinse and repeat until he is dead. After that, just go and assist your mimic in killing the ring blade enemy and it's job done.
On my first playthrough, I thought this was one of the hardest fights in the game and in many ways, it is still one of the cheesiest bosses due to the way the enemies just gank you and leave you no room to breathe. The mage is by far the most dangerous enemy, as his continuous crystal blast has high damage over time and can easily kill you in a single cast if you get caught in its path. The constant tick damage of the scarlet rot is more of an annoying distraction than anything else. A few of these gank squad boss fights come down to simply avoiding the crowd while continuously casting spells, or if you're a melee build, a DPS check to see if you can whittle the aggressors down to a manageable number before you get overwhelmed.
Like many bosses in this game, using the right damage type is key. If you have the Mimic ashes however, everything becomes significantly easier, even if your loadout and strategy are really badly thought out, since the mimic is way, way tankier than most other summons.
Mastodon2 said:
Trustmeimadoctor said:
any tips for the bosses in selia hideaway? the 3 crystal dudes?
The Crystalian type enemies have very high damage reduction until you break their poise, at which point they become extremely vulnerable to damage. They are extremely weak to striking damage, so use that against them. You can see the damage type of a weapon under it's name on the inventory page, the different types for physical weapons are strike, slash, pierce and standard. Things like maces, hammers etc, that don't have any bladed edge or thrusting attacks are nearly always strike damage. Alongside those base damage types, you will see the fire, magic, holy etc, but that's irrelevant for this fight.The Crystalians take reduced damage from everything but striking, so pick your best striking weapon and bring that along. If you're playing a melee build, or anything other than a pure magic build, I'd recommend having at least striking weapon upgraded to a decent level. The best one in the game, certainly the most useful on your first playthrough, is the Great Stars, obtained from one of those funeral processions pulled by trolls on the Altus Plateau.
If you can equip the talismans that give you bonus damage on charged attacks and guard counters, they will be useful too.
For the fight, if you have the Mimic Ashes, upgrade it as high as it will go. Don't feel concerned about putting your rare upgrade materials into it, as it is by far the best summon in the game. Prior to the fight, cast "Flame, Grant Me Strength" if you have it, and chug you mixed physik flash - set it up for increased stamina regeneration and increased strength if you have the right cracked tears to do that. Two hand your weapon to start, but have a shield equipped, as most striking weapons tend to scale well with strength and two-handing a weapon gives you an effective bonus to your strength stat of 50%. Two handing at the start will allow you to completely crush the mage before he gets a chance to do any real offense.
When the fight begins, summon the mimic, chug a potion to heal and then rush around the back of the group. The ring blade and spear enemies will probably lock onto the mimic, as it will rush in to meet them in combat. Use jumping heavy attacks, which deal big poise damage, to knock the mage to the ground. Hit him with a critical and repeat, dodge and roll away from your pursuers and focus the mage down.
As soon as the mage is dead, switch back to single-handing and let the spear Crystalian attack you and bounce off your shield, then do a guard counter. You'll only need to do this perhaps twice to stagger him. When he staggers, hit a critical and then do a charged heavy attack as he stands up and the invincibility frames in his standing up animation end. Rinse and repeat until he is dead. After that, just go and assist your mimic in killing the ring blade enemy and it's job done.
On my first playthrough, I thought this was one of the hardest fights in the game and in many ways, it is still one of the cheesiest bosses due to the way the enemies just gank you and leave you no room to breathe. The mage is by far the most dangerous enemy, as his continuous crystal blast has high damage over time and can easily kill you in a single cast if you get caught in its path. The constant tick damage of the scarlet rot is more of an annoying distraction than anything else. A few of these gank squad boss fights come down to simply avoiding the crowd while continuously casting spells, or if you're a melee build, a DPS check to see if you can whittle the aggressors down to a manageable number before you get overwhelmed.
Like many bosses in this game, using the right damage type is key. If you have the Mimic ashes however, everything becomes significantly easier, even if your loadout and strategy are really badly thought out, since the mimic is way, way tankier than most other summons.
toastyhamster said:
How hard is this game? I've read pretty much the entire thread and I've been attracted/put off in equal measure.
I've happy to sink hours into a good game to get some rewards but if it's just too f*cking hard I'll bail, I tend to play for the storylines more than anything else. Also I'm desperate for that "next game" to get me hooked in. Would this be too hard for somebody that mainly plays "story mode"?
Done Red Dead, Gods of War, Assassins, Last of Us, Senua, CyberPunk, GTA, Horizons etc
I might seriously have to spend some time outside!
Okay the initial challenge/hurdle you will face is having no idea where you are going at the start. It's part of the charm of these games where you can accidentally end up down the wrong path that is nearly impossible as you are way too low a level. So that is likely where you will get off the band wagon. However, if you watch a basic guide on how to get started with either a dex or strength based character and where to initially go then that will at least mean your efforts aren't made in futility. After that you start to learn about levelling up and every level slowly makes the game a little easier. I've happy to sink hours into a good game to get some rewards but if it's just too f*cking hard I'll bail, I tend to play for the storylines more than anything else. Also I'm desperate for that "next game" to get me hooked in. Would this be too hard for somebody that mainly plays "story mode"?
Done Red Dead, Gods of War, Assassins, Last of Us, Senua, CyberPunk, GTA, Horizons etc
I might seriously have to spend some time outside!
I'd definitely give this a go and don't give up. The satisfaction from getting good at this game far outweighs any sense of satisfaction from a more story based game.
Watch a video like "ten things you should know when you start elden ring" or something like that. Each time u hit a brick wall reach out for more guidance from the community but try and play blind where you can so the surprise is a reward.
Good luck.
anonymous said:
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That's why I did it too.Still you keep all your kit, levels everything, map all found just sites of grace needing to be found again, plus with "knowledge" you know where to go quicker, no aimless wandering wasting time.
But still plenty of first time things left though. I'm 24 out of 42 achievements, barely halfway though everything.
I'm on NG+ now, but as others have rightly pointed out, you can only experience a game like Elden Ring blind once. That is why I recommend against using guides or looking for advice on where to go and in what order. A big part of what makes this game so good is the experience of organically crossing the world and findings the amazing things in it.
I had hoped that NG+ would scale the difficulty a little harder, as I am now completely crushing everything. I did my first playthrouh using a fairly safe Uchigatana and shield build, for my second run I'm using thrusting swords for a different flavour of combat and mixing in colossal weapons too for fun. Perhaps in the second half of the game the challenge will ramp up, but it has been very easy going so far.
Maybe this isn't such a bad thing, as if they add in some high-level DLC, I might be appropriately geared and leveled for it.
I had hoped that NG+ would scale the difficulty a little harder, as I am now completely crushing everything. I did my first playthrouh using a fairly safe Uchigatana and shield build, for my second run I'm using thrusting swords for a different flavour of combat and mixing in colossal weapons too for fun. Perhaps in the second half of the game the challenge will ramp up, but it has been very easy going so far.
Maybe this isn't such a bad thing, as if they add in some high-level DLC, I might be appropriately geared and leveled for it.
Just downloaded an update v 1.04
Patch notes We are distributing an update to improve the stability of gameplay and to adjust balance. We apologize for the inconvenience, but please apply the latest update before you enjoy the game.
Major changes included in the latest update:
Additional Elements Added
Added an option to turn camera auto rotate function ON/OFF.
Added some event phases for the NPC “Patches”
Balance adjustments
Increased Colossal Swords/Colossal weapons attack speed and lowered their recovery time. Jump attack not included.
Increased the two-handed attack damage of Colossal Swords/Colossal Weapons. Jump attack not included.
Increased physical block rate and guard boost of the Colossal Sword, Colossal Weapons, Great Sword, Great Hammer, Great Axe, Great Spear, and Halberd weapon classes.
Increased the damage of Grafted Blade Greatsword.
Increased the damage of Devourer’s Scepter.
Decreased the scaling of status effect build-up from spells and incantations of Albinauric Staff and Dragon Communion Seal.
Decreased the effect of Greatshield Talisman for weapons with high block rate.
Shortened the length of the madness afflicted animation.
Lowered the speed of madness buildup recovery.
Slightly increased FP and Stamina growth rate at lower levels*
Activate Godrick’s Great Rune.
Re-equipping any equipment (armor, talisman) which grants bonus stat to either Strength, Dexterity, Vigor, Endurance, Intelligence, Faith or Arcane.
Other enemy and weapon balance changes.
Sorcery/Incantation
Upward adjustments
Crystal Barrage - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Gavel of Haima - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Allows caster to more easily withstand enemies’ attack while casting.
Shatter Earth - Increased cast speed and decrease recovery time. Allows caster to more easily withstand enemies’ attack while casting.
Rock Blaster - Decreased recovery time. Allows caster to more easily withstand enemies’ attack while casting.
Thop’s Barrier - Increased area of effect and slightly increase effect duration.
Rennala’s Full Moon - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Ranni’s Dark Moon - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Carian Greatsword - Increased cast speed at lower dexterity.
Magma Shot - Decreased FP cost and increased cast speed.
Roiling Magma - Increased cast speed and decreased time until magma explodes.
Gelmir’s Fury - Slightly decreased the random nature of projectile’s range and increased the damage of lava pool. Increased the hitbox.
Rykard’s Rancor - Decreased FP cost.
Oracle Bubbles - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Great Oracular Bubble - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Briars of Sin - Decreased recovery time. Increased blood loss buildup on enemy.
Briars of Punishment - Decreased recovery time. Increased blood loss buildup on enemy.
Explosive Ghostflame - Decreased FP cost and recovery time.
Tibia’s Summon - Increased damage and cast speed.
Aspects of the Crucible: Tail - Decreased FP and Stamina cost.
Aspects of the Crucible: Horns - Decreased FP and Stamina cost, Increase cast speed. Increased the distance traveled when not charged and made it easier to cause enemies to flinch when charged.
Elden Stars - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Black Blade - Decreased Stamina consumption and decreased recovery time.
Discus of Light - Decreased FP cost. Increased damage and cast speed.
Triple Rings of Light - Increased damage.
Radagon’s Rings of Light - Decreased FP cost. Increased damage and cast speed. Decreased recovery time.
Lightning Strike - Decreased Stamina cost. Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Honed Bolt - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Ancient Dragons’ Lightning Spear - Decreased FP and Stamina cost. Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Allows caster to more easily withstand enemy attacks while casting.
Ancient Dragons’ Lightning Strike - Decreased recovery time.
Lansseax’s Glaive - Decreased FP and Stamina cost. Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Allows caster to more easily withstand enemy’ attacks while casting.
Fortissax's Lightning Spear - Decreased FP and Stamina cost. Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Allows caster to withstand enemy attack while casting more easily.
Frozen Lightning Spear - Decreased Stamina cost. Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Allows caster to more easily withstand enemy attack while casting.
Death Lightning - Decreased FP cost, Increased the duration of death-accumulating smoke.
O, Flame! - Increased damage.
Giantsflame Take Thee - Decreased Stamina Cost.
Flame of the Fell God - Decreased FP cost and increased damage.
Whirl, O Flame! - Increased damage, decreased recovery time.
Burn, O Flame! - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Black Flame - Increase damage and the spell can break enemy’s guard more easily.
Scouring Black Flame - Decreased FP cost and recovery time. Increased attack range and area of effect.
Black Flame Ritual - Reduced FP cost and increased damage.
Gurranq's Beast Claw - Increased damage and decreased recovery time.
Bloodflame Talons - Decreased FP cost and increased cast speed. Decreased recovery time.
Bloodboon - Increased damage. Increased cast speed and decreased effect start-up time, decreased recovery time.
Pest Threads - Decreased Stamina cost.
Scarlet Aeonia - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Allows caster to more easily withstand enemy attacks while casting.
Unendurable Frenzy - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Decreased the random nature of projectile’s range and increased Madness buildup on enemies.
Inescapable Frenzy - Increased cast speed.
Placidusax's Ruin - Decreased FP, Stamina cost and recovery time.
Dragonclaw - Decreased FP, Stamina cost and recovery time and made it easier to cause enemies to flinch when charged.
Dragonmaw - Decreased FP, stamina cost, recovery time and increased cast speed and made it easier to cause enemies to flinch when charged.
Greyoll's Roar - Decreased FP, Stamina cost and recovery time.
Upward and downward adjustments
Adula's Moonblade - Decreased the power of single cast and improved performance so that the blades and frost hit more consistently and continuously. Increased cast speed at lower dexterity.
Flame, Fall Upon Them - Decreased the damage of single cast and improved the performance so that it hits the enemy multiple times. Decreased FP cost.
Howl of Shabriri - Decreased the madness buildup on the enemy. Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Downward adjustments
Swarm of Flies - Decreased blood loss buildup on enemy.
The Flame of Frenzy - Decreased madness buildup on enemy.
Frenzied Burst - Decreased madness buildup on enemy.
Weapon Skill
Upward adjustments
Lion's Claw - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Kick - Increased cast speed.
Hoarah Loux's Earthshaker - Increased cast speed. Increased cast speed on follow up input, decreased recovery time.
Troll’s Roar - Decreased Stamina Cost. Increased cast speed on follow up input, increased distance traveled.
Giant Hunt - Decreased recovery time.
Storm Assault - Decreased recovery time.
Carian Greatsword - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Increased the damage when charged and made it easier to cause enemies to flinch.
Carian Grandeur - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Increased the damage when charge and made it easier to cause enemies to flinch.
Gravitas - Increased cast speed.
Flaming Strike - Increased the travel distance of a stepping cleave in a strong attack.
Black Flame Tornado - Added hitbox to weapon when spinning, and added a window to roll during the attack to cancel the animation.
Lightning Slash - Increased cast speed. Added a hitbox to the stomp animation.
Sacred Blade - Increased cast speed.
Sacred Ring of Light - Increased cast speed.
Poisonous Mist - Increased cast speed.
Poison Moth Flight - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Ice Spear - Added a hitbox to the weapon’s spinning animation.
Chilling Mist - Increased cast speed.
Assassin's Gambit - Increased cast speed.
Shield Bash - Increased cast speed.
Shield Crash - Decreased Stamina cost. Increased cast speed.
Blade of Gold - Decreased Stamina cost. Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Blade of Death - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Golden Tempering - Decreased FP cost and increased cast speed. Increased effect duration.
Last Rites - Increased cast speed.
Mists of Slumber - Increased cast speed.
Eochaid's Dancing Blade - Increased travel distance, added a window to roll during the attack to cancel the animation.
Unblockable Blade - Increased cast speed with the weapon Coded Sword.
Alabaster Lords' Pull - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Added a window to roll during the attack to cancel the animation.
Establish Order - Decreased recovery time and increased cast speed on follow up input. Increased damage. Made it easier to cause enemies to flinch.
Moonlight Greatsword - Decreased FP cost. Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Increased the frost buildup effect during the skill duration.
Wave of Gold - Decreased FP cost. Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Wolf’s Assault - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
The Queen’s Black Flame - Increased cast speed. Added a window to roll during the attack to cancel the animation.
Dynast's Finesse - Decreased Stamina cost.
Flowing Form - Decreased Stamina cost.
Death Flare - Increased cast speed.
Onyx Lord's Repulsion - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Added a window to roll during the attack to cancel the animation.
Magma Guillotine - Decreased Stamina cost, Increased cast speed. Decreased recovery time on follow up input.
Cursed-Blood Slice - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Ice Lightning Sword - Increased cast speed. Added a hitbox to the stomp animation.
Rosus’ Summons - Decreased recovery time.
I Command Thee, Kneel! - Increased cast speed including follow up input. Added a window to roll during the attack to cancel the animation.
Gold Breaker - Decreased FP cost. Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Familial Rancor - Added a window to roll during the attack to cancel the animation.
Nebula - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time with the weapon b
d's Stars.
Regal Beastclaw - Increased cast speed.
Devourer of Worlds - Increased cast speed.
Regal Roar - Decreased recovery time.
Spearcall Ritual - Decreased recovery time.
Ancient Lightning Spear - Decreased FP cost and increased cast speed. Allows player to more easily withstand enemies’ attacks while casting.
Great-Serpent Hunt - Decreased recovery time and increased damage. Allows player to more easily withstand attacks from enemies.
Frenzyflame Thrust - Decreased FP cost, decreased recovery time. Decreased madness buildup on self.
Bloodboon Ritual - Increased cast speed.
Miquella's Ring of Light - Increased cast speed.
Sea of Magma - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Added a window to roll during the attack to cancel the animation.
Flame Dance - Decreased Stamina cost, decreased recovery time. Added a window to roll during the attack to cancel the animation.
Storm Kick - Decreased Stamina cost.
Bear Witness! - Increased cast speed.
Upward and downward adjustments
Thundercloud Form - Decreased damage when not charged. Decreased FP cost. Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Bug Fixes
Fixed a bug where the damage of Inescapable Frenzy was affected by right hand weapon.
Fixed a bug where the damage of the weapon arts "Carian retaliation" was increased by weapon and status, and the effect was not displayed correctly during online multiplay.
Fixed a bug where the animation when inflicted with blood loss and frostbite was bigger than originally planned.
Fixed a bug during character appearance change menu in which some parameter changes were sometime not reflected.
Fixed a bug that prevented a dialog from appearing when executing "Leave" on some items.
Fixed a bug that allowed unauthorized items to be passed to other players.
Fixed a bug in multiplayer that prevented grace to be registered on the map if it was found just before the player is summoned.
Fixed a bug that sometime prevented the mechanic of Rennala Queen Of The Full Moon fight from working properly during cooperative multiplayer.
Fixed a bug that sometime prevented the player from entering the boss area after defeating Morgott, the Omen King.
Fixed a bug that prevented "Edgar the Revenger" and "Festering Fingerprint Vyke" from invading after defeating all the bosses in Liurnia of the Lake.
The item Tonic of Forgetfulness can now be obtained at the Volcano Manor if the player wasn’t able to obtain it due to quest progression.
Fixed a bug that caused the reduction of runes due to NPC "Gostoc" when player died in "Stormveil Castle" to occur at an unintended timing.
Added a protective barrier to Millicent after helping her at Miquella’s Haligtree so she cannot be unintentionally killed.
Fixed a bug that sometime prevented the player from obtaining the reward after defeating the Dung Eater.
Fixed a bug that sometime prevented the player from progress Diallos’ questline.
Fixed a bug that sometime prevented player from duplicating remembrance at the Walking Mausoleum.
Fixed a bug that prevented player from inputting consecutive attacks when dual wielding thrusting sword.
Fixed a bug that causes scythe to lose blood loss effect if poison affinity is applied to the weapon.
Fixed a bug where the damage of the Iron Greatsword was lower than expected when an affinity is applied.
Fixed a bug that caused FP consumption to increase when the player cast Night Comet with charge.
Fixed a bug that causes he default key setting on keyboard for weapon skill (Left Ctrl) to not be set (on PC only).
Fixed a bug in the Steam version where the history of players who played multiplayer was not displayed correctly under certain circumstances.
Increased online multiplayer stability.
Fixed a bug that caused incorrect sounds to be played under certain circumstances.
Fixed a bug that caused some places on the map to have incorrect visual and hitbox.
Fixed a bug that causes some enemies to have incorrect visual and behavior.
Fixed a bug that causes some armor to have incorrect stats.
Text fix.
Other performance improvements and bug fixes.
Patch notes We are distributing an update to improve the stability of gameplay and to adjust balance. We apologize for the inconvenience, but please apply the latest update before you enjoy the game.
Major changes included in the latest update:
Additional Elements Added
Added an option to turn camera auto rotate function ON/OFF.
Added some event phases for the NPC “Patches”
Balance adjustments
Increased Colossal Swords/Colossal weapons attack speed and lowered their recovery time. Jump attack not included.
Increased the two-handed attack damage of Colossal Swords/Colossal Weapons. Jump attack not included.
Increased physical block rate and guard boost of the Colossal Sword, Colossal Weapons, Great Sword, Great Hammer, Great Axe, Great Spear, and Halberd weapon classes.
Increased the damage of Grafted Blade Greatsword.
Increased the damage of Devourer’s Scepter.
Decreased the scaling of status effect build-up from spells and incantations of Albinauric Staff and Dragon Communion Seal.
Decreased the effect of Greatshield Talisman for weapons with high block rate.
Shortened the length of the madness afflicted animation.
Lowered the speed of madness buildup recovery.
Slightly increased FP and Stamina growth rate at lower levels*
- Players will need to perform any of the following actions for the changes to be reflected. This is required only once. New characters created after this update will not require this action.
Activate Godrick’s Great Rune.
Re-equipping any equipment (armor, talisman) which grants bonus stat to either Strength, Dexterity, Vigor, Endurance, Intelligence, Faith or Arcane.
Other enemy and weapon balance changes.
Sorcery/Incantation
Upward adjustments
Crystal Barrage - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Gavel of Haima - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Allows caster to more easily withstand enemies’ attack while casting.
Shatter Earth - Increased cast speed and decrease recovery time. Allows caster to more easily withstand enemies’ attack while casting.
Rock Blaster - Decreased recovery time. Allows caster to more easily withstand enemies’ attack while casting.
Thop’s Barrier - Increased area of effect and slightly increase effect duration.
Rennala’s Full Moon - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Ranni’s Dark Moon - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Carian Greatsword - Increased cast speed at lower dexterity.
Magma Shot - Decreased FP cost and increased cast speed.
Roiling Magma - Increased cast speed and decreased time until magma explodes.
Gelmir’s Fury - Slightly decreased the random nature of projectile’s range and increased the damage of lava pool. Increased the hitbox.
Rykard’s Rancor - Decreased FP cost.
Oracle Bubbles - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Great Oracular Bubble - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Briars of Sin - Decreased recovery time. Increased blood loss buildup on enemy.
Briars of Punishment - Decreased recovery time. Increased blood loss buildup on enemy.
Explosive Ghostflame - Decreased FP cost and recovery time.
Tibia’s Summon - Increased damage and cast speed.
Aspects of the Crucible: Tail - Decreased FP and Stamina cost.
Aspects of the Crucible: Horns - Decreased FP and Stamina cost, Increase cast speed. Increased the distance traveled when not charged and made it easier to cause enemies to flinch when charged.
Elden Stars - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Black Blade - Decreased Stamina consumption and decreased recovery time.
Discus of Light - Decreased FP cost. Increased damage and cast speed.
Triple Rings of Light - Increased damage.
Radagon’s Rings of Light - Decreased FP cost. Increased damage and cast speed. Decreased recovery time.
Lightning Strike - Decreased Stamina cost. Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Honed Bolt - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Ancient Dragons’ Lightning Spear - Decreased FP and Stamina cost. Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Allows caster to more easily withstand enemy attacks while casting.
Ancient Dragons’ Lightning Strike - Decreased recovery time.
Lansseax’s Glaive - Decreased FP and Stamina cost. Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Allows caster to more easily withstand enemy’ attacks while casting.
Fortissax's Lightning Spear - Decreased FP and Stamina cost. Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Allows caster to withstand enemy attack while casting more easily.
Frozen Lightning Spear - Decreased Stamina cost. Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Allows caster to more easily withstand enemy attack while casting.
Death Lightning - Decreased FP cost, Increased the duration of death-accumulating smoke.
O, Flame! - Increased damage.
Giantsflame Take Thee - Decreased Stamina Cost.
Flame of the Fell God - Decreased FP cost and increased damage.
Whirl, O Flame! - Increased damage, decreased recovery time.
Burn, O Flame! - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Black Flame - Increase damage and the spell can break enemy’s guard more easily.
Scouring Black Flame - Decreased FP cost and recovery time. Increased attack range and area of effect.
Black Flame Ritual - Reduced FP cost and increased damage.
Gurranq's Beast Claw - Increased damage and decreased recovery time.
Bloodflame Talons - Decreased FP cost and increased cast speed. Decreased recovery time.
Bloodboon - Increased damage. Increased cast speed and decreased effect start-up time, decreased recovery time.
Pest Threads - Decreased Stamina cost.
Scarlet Aeonia - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Allows caster to more easily withstand enemy attacks while casting.
Unendurable Frenzy - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Decreased the random nature of projectile’s range and increased Madness buildup on enemies.
Inescapable Frenzy - Increased cast speed.
Placidusax's Ruin - Decreased FP, Stamina cost and recovery time.
Dragonclaw - Decreased FP, Stamina cost and recovery time and made it easier to cause enemies to flinch when charged.
Dragonmaw - Decreased FP, stamina cost, recovery time and increased cast speed and made it easier to cause enemies to flinch when charged.
Greyoll's Roar - Decreased FP, Stamina cost and recovery time.
Upward and downward adjustments
Adula's Moonblade - Decreased the power of single cast and improved performance so that the blades and frost hit more consistently and continuously. Increased cast speed at lower dexterity.
Flame, Fall Upon Them - Decreased the damage of single cast and improved the performance so that it hits the enemy multiple times. Decreased FP cost.
Howl of Shabriri - Decreased the madness buildup on the enemy. Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Downward adjustments
Swarm of Flies - Decreased blood loss buildup on enemy.
The Flame of Frenzy - Decreased madness buildup on enemy.
Frenzied Burst - Decreased madness buildup on enemy.
Weapon Skill
Upward adjustments
Lion's Claw - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Kick - Increased cast speed.
Hoarah Loux's Earthshaker - Increased cast speed. Increased cast speed on follow up input, decreased recovery time.
Troll’s Roar - Decreased Stamina Cost. Increased cast speed on follow up input, increased distance traveled.
Giant Hunt - Decreased recovery time.
Storm Assault - Decreased recovery time.
Carian Greatsword - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Increased the damage when charged and made it easier to cause enemies to flinch.
Carian Grandeur - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Increased the damage when charge and made it easier to cause enemies to flinch.
Gravitas - Increased cast speed.
Flaming Strike - Increased the travel distance of a stepping cleave in a strong attack.
Black Flame Tornado - Added hitbox to weapon when spinning, and added a window to roll during the attack to cancel the animation.
Lightning Slash - Increased cast speed. Added a hitbox to the stomp animation.
Sacred Blade - Increased cast speed.
Sacred Ring of Light - Increased cast speed.
Poisonous Mist - Increased cast speed.
Poison Moth Flight - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Ice Spear - Added a hitbox to the weapon’s spinning animation.
Chilling Mist - Increased cast speed.
Assassin's Gambit - Increased cast speed.
Shield Bash - Increased cast speed.
Shield Crash - Decreased Stamina cost. Increased cast speed.
Blade of Gold - Decreased Stamina cost. Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Blade of Death - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Golden Tempering - Decreased FP cost and increased cast speed. Increased effect duration.
Last Rites - Increased cast speed.
Mists of Slumber - Increased cast speed.
Eochaid's Dancing Blade - Increased travel distance, added a window to roll during the attack to cancel the animation.
Unblockable Blade - Increased cast speed with the weapon Coded Sword.
Alabaster Lords' Pull - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Added a window to roll during the attack to cancel the animation.
Establish Order - Decreased recovery time and increased cast speed on follow up input. Increased damage. Made it easier to cause enemies to flinch.
Moonlight Greatsword - Decreased FP cost. Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Increased the frost buildup effect during the skill duration.
Wave of Gold - Decreased FP cost. Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Wolf’s Assault - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
The Queen’s Black Flame - Increased cast speed. Added a window to roll during the attack to cancel the animation.
Dynast's Finesse - Decreased Stamina cost.
Flowing Form - Decreased Stamina cost.
Death Flare - Increased cast speed.
Onyx Lord's Repulsion - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Added a window to roll during the attack to cancel the animation.
Magma Guillotine - Decreased Stamina cost, Increased cast speed. Decreased recovery time on follow up input.
Cursed-Blood Slice - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Ice Lightning Sword - Increased cast speed. Added a hitbox to the stomp animation.
Rosus’ Summons - Decreased recovery time.
I Command Thee, Kneel! - Increased cast speed including follow up input. Added a window to roll during the attack to cancel the animation.
Gold Breaker - Decreased FP cost. Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Familial Rancor - Added a window to roll during the attack to cancel the animation.
Nebula - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time with the weapon b
d's Stars.Regal Beastclaw - Increased cast speed.
Devourer of Worlds - Increased cast speed.
Regal Roar - Decreased recovery time.
Spearcall Ritual - Decreased recovery time.
Ancient Lightning Spear - Decreased FP cost and increased cast speed. Allows player to more easily withstand enemies’ attacks while casting.
Great-Serpent Hunt - Decreased recovery time and increased damage. Allows player to more easily withstand attacks from enemies.
Frenzyflame Thrust - Decreased FP cost, decreased recovery time. Decreased madness buildup on self.
Bloodboon Ritual - Increased cast speed.
Miquella's Ring of Light - Increased cast speed.
Sea of Magma - Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time. Added a window to roll during the attack to cancel the animation.
Flame Dance - Decreased Stamina cost, decreased recovery time. Added a window to roll during the attack to cancel the animation.
Storm Kick - Decreased Stamina cost.
Bear Witness! - Increased cast speed.
Upward and downward adjustments
Thundercloud Form - Decreased damage when not charged. Decreased FP cost. Increased cast speed and decreased recovery time.
Bug Fixes
Fixed a bug where the damage of Inescapable Frenzy was affected by right hand weapon.
Fixed a bug where the damage of the weapon arts "Carian retaliation" was increased by weapon and status, and the effect was not displayed correctly during online multiplay.
Fixed a bug where the animation when inflicted with blood loss and frostbite was bigger than originally planned.
Fixed a bug during character appearance change menu in which some parameter changes were sometime not reflected.
Fixed a bug that prevented a dialog from appearing when executing "Leave" on some items.
Fixed a bug that allowed unauthorized items to be passed to other players.
Fixed a bug in multiplayer that prevented grace to be registered on the map if it was found just before the player is summoned.
Fixed a bug that sometime prevented the mechanic of Rennala Queen Of The Full Moon fight from working properly during cooperative multiplayer.
Fixed a bug that sometime prevented the player from entering the boss area after defeating Morgott, the Omen King.
Fixed a bug that prevented "Edgar the Revenger" and "Festering Fingerprint Vyke" from invading after defeating all the bosses in Liurnia of the Lake.
The item Tonic of Forgetfulness can now be obtained at the Volcano Manor if the player wasn’t able to obtain it due to quest progression.
Fixed a bug that caused the reduction of runes due to NPC "Gostoc" when player died in "Stormveil Castle" to occur at an unintended timing.
Added a protective barrier to Millicent after helping her at Miquella’s Haligtree so she cannot be unintentionally killed.
Fixed a bug that sometime prevented the player from obtaining the reward after defeating the Dung Eater.
Fixed a bug that sometime prevented the player from progress Diallos’ questline.
Fixed a bug that sometime prevented player from duplicating remembrance at the Walking Mausoleum.
Fixed a bug that prevented player from inputting consecutive attacks when dual wielding thrusting sword.
Fixed a bug that causes scythe to lose blood loss effect if poison affinity is applied to the weapon.
Fixed a bug where the damage of the Iron Greatsword was lower than expected when an affinity is applied.
Fixed a bug that caused FP consumption to increase when the player cast Night Comet with charge.
Fixed a bug that causes he default key setting on keyboard for weapon skill (Left Ctrl) to not be set (on PC only).
Fixed a bug in the Steam version where the history of players who played multiplayer was not displayed correctly under certain circumstances.
Increased online multiplayer stability.
Fixed a bug that caused incorrect sounds to be played under certain circumstances.
Fixed a bug that caused some places on the map to have incorrect visual and hitbox.
Fixed a bug that causes some enemies to have incorrect visual and behavior.
Fixed a bug that causes some armor to have incorrect stats.
Text fix.
Other performance improvements and bug fixes.
Steven_RW said:
toastyhamster said:
How hard is this game? I've read pretty much the entire thread and I've been attracted/put off in equal measure.
I've happy to sink hours into a good game to get some rewards but if it's just too f*cking hard I'll bail, I tend to play for the storylines more than anything else. Also I'm desperate for that "next game" to get me hooked in. Would this be too hard for somebody that mainly plays "story mode"?
Done Red Dead, Gods of War, Assassins, Last of Us, Senua, CyberPunk, GTA, Horizons etc
I might seriously have to spend some time outside!
Okay the initial challenge/hurdle you will face is having no idea where you are going at the start. It's part of the charm of these games where you can accidentally end up down the wrong path that is nearly impossible as you are way too low a level. So that is likely where you will get off the band wagon. However, if you watch a basic guide on how to get started with either a dex or strength based character and where to initially go then that will at least mean your efforts aren't made in futility. After that you start to learn about levelling up and every level slowly makes the game a little easier. I've happy to sink hours into a good game to get some rewards but if it's just too f*cking hard I'll bail, I tend to play for the storylines more than anything else. Also I'm desperate for that "next game" to get me hooked in. Would this be too hard for somebody that mainly plays "story mode"?
Done Red Dead, Gods of War, Assassins, Last of Us, Senua, CyberPunk, GTA, Horizons etc
I might seriously have to spend some time outside!
I'd definitely give this a go and don't give up. The satisfaction from getting good at this game far outweighs any sense of satisfaction from a more story based game.
Watch a video like "ten things you should know when you start elden ring" or something like that. Each time u hit a brick wall reach out for more guidance from the community but try and play blind where you can so the surprise is a reward.
Good luck.
Ordered for tomorrow, worst case I sell it on and it cost me £20.
Trustmeimadoctor said:
Mastodon2 said:
Trustmeimadoctor said:
any tips for the bosses in selia hideaway? the 3 crystal dudes?
The Crystalian type enemies have very high damage reduction until you break their poise, at which point they become extremely vulnerable to damage. They are extremely weak to striking damage, so use that against them. You can see the damage type of a weapon under it's name on the inventory page, the different types for physical weapons are strike, slash, pierce and standard. Things like maces, hammers etc, that don't have any bladed edge or thrusting attacks are nearly always strike damage. Alongside those base damage types, you will see the fire, magic, holy etc, but that's irrelevant for this fight.The Crystalians take reduced damage from everything but striking, so pick your best striking weapon and bring that along. If you're playing a melee build, or anything other than a pure magic build, I'd recommend having at least striking weapon upgraded to a decent level. The best one in the game, certainly the most useful on your first playthrough, is the Great Stars, obtained from one of those funeral processions pulled by trolls on the Altus Plateau.
If you can equip the talismans that give you bonus damage on charged attacks and guard counters, they will be useful too.
For the fight, if you have the Mimic Ashes, upgrade it as high as it will go. Don't feel concerned about putting your rare upgrade materials into it, as it is by far the best summon in the game. Prior to the fight, cast "Flame, Grant Me Strength" if you have it, and chug you mixed physik flash - set it up for increased stamina regeneration and increased strength if you have the right cracked tears to do that. Two hand your weapon to start, but have a shield equipped, as most striking weapons tend to scale well with strength and two-handing a weapon gives you an effective bonus to your strength stat of 50%. Two handing at the start will allow you to completely crush the mage before he gets a chance to do any real offense.
When the fight begins, summon the mimic, chug a potion to heal and then rush around the back of the group. The ring blade and spear enemies will probably lock onto the mimic, as it will rush in to meet them in combat. Use jumping heavy attacks, which deal big poise damage, to knock the mage to the ground. Hit him with a critical and repeat, dodge and roll away from your pursuers and focus the mage down.
As soon as the mage is dead, switch back to single-handing and let the spear Crystalian attack you and bounce off your shield, then do a guard counter. You'll only need to do this perhaps twice to stagger him. When he staggers, hit a critical and then do a charged heavy attack as he stands up and the invincibility frames in his standing up animation end. Rinse and repeat until he is dead. After that, just go and assist your mimic in killing the ring blade enemy and it's job done.
On my first playthrough, I thought this was one of the hardest fights in the game and in many ways, it is still one of the cheesiest bosses due to the way the enemies just gank you and leave you no room to breathe. The mage is by far the most dangerous enemy, as his continuous crystal blast has high damage over time and can easily kill you in a single cast if you get caught in its path. The constant tick damage of the scarlet rot is more of an annoying distraction than anything else. A few of these gank squad boss fights come down to simply avoiding the crowd while continuously casting spells, or if you're a melee build, a DPS check to see if you can whittle the aggressors down to a manageable number before you get overwhelmed.
Like many bosses in this game, using the right damage type is key. If you have the Mimic ashes however, everything becomes significantly easier, even if your loadout and strategy are really badly thought out, since the mimic is way, way tankier than most other summons.
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