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JackP1

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164 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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XKjimmy

3,754 posts

185 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Many thanks longQ, was pleased how they came out in the end, bit of trial and error with the lighting positions to start with....

That's very true, they did get out of hand once or twice! It started well but lost them near the end.. ; )

Good plan that with the Role play idea and telling them about the time lapse, think I will give that ago tomorrow, I'll try the strobes a bit higher this time as well.

LongQ

13,864 posts

235 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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XKjimmy said:
Many thanks longQ, was pleased how they came out in the end, bit of trial and error with the lighting positions to start with....

That's very true, they did get out of hand once or twice! It started well but lost them near the end.. ; )

Good plan that with the Role play idea and telling them about the time lapse, think I will give that ago tomorrow, I'll try the strobes a bit higher this time as well.
Got any light modifiers for the kit? Or maybe an option to bounce light to reduce the likelihood of sadows no matter where the subject move?

XKjimmy

3,754 posts

185 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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The kit has two 66cm soft boxes too which we're installed, may need to reposition them to make the shadows less.

LongQ

13,864 posts

235 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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XKjimmy said:
The kit has two 66cm soft boxes too which we're installed, may need to reposition them to make the shadows less.
Probably tricky of the subject gets close to the background.

Could try lighting the background with something or bouncing some of the light back onto it (but that would need a reflective object close to the left of the frame and doing that might restrict the subject to the point of tantrum. Might as well make them keep away from the wall if you have that sort of challange to face.)

Wonder it is is possible to enhance the shadow and make it part of the intended image?

Looks like fun to experiment anyway.

HorneyMX5

5,324 posts

152 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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XKjimmy

3,754 posts

185 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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LongQ said:
Probably tricky of the subject gets close to the background.

Could try lighting the background with something or bouncing some of the light back onto it (but that would need a reflective object close to the left of the frame and doing that might restrict the subject to the point of tantrum. Might as well make them keep away from the wall if you have that sort of challange to face.)

Wonder it is is possible to enhance the shadow and make it part of the intended image?

Looks like fun to experiment anyway.
True that, Im going to try again today but have them a bit further away from the background, Could make staying away from the background into a game for them or a scenario. I may flip the background around and try black to see how that looks. Im planning to get some of the images printed and framed as a present for my bro and his wife smile

Good idea though to try and enhance the shadows, i'll have another medal with the lights.

I do have one of these on the way which should help with the back lighting http://www.wexphotographic.com/buy-elinchrom-d-lit...

It is great fun experimenting, looking forward to doing much more with the lights, just need to find more willing subjects!


LongQ

13,864 posts

235 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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XKjimmy said:
True that, Im going to try again today but have them a bit further away from the background, Could make staying away from the background into a game for them or a scenario. I may flip the background around and try black to see how that looks. Im planning to get some of the images printed and framed as a present for my bro and his wife smile

Good idea though to try and enhance the shadows, i'll have another medal with the lights.

I do have one of these on the way which should help with the back lighting http://www.wexphotographic.com/buy-elinchrom-d-lit...

It is great fun experimenting, looking forward to doing much more with the lights, just need to find more willing subjects!
There seems to be whole genre of self-portraitists out there, playing with lighting. However most of them seem to be young females so you may feel unwilling to join in.

XKjimmy

3,754 posts

185 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Good point that, self portraits are an option.

LongQ

13,864 posts

235 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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XKjimmy said:
Good point that, self portraits are an option.
Get a long cabled remote release or use a Skyport to trigger. Much more convenient than setting the timer.

RobbieKB

7,715 posts

185 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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LongQ said:
XKjimmy said:
Good point that, self portraits are an option.
Get a long cabled remote release or use a Skyport to trigger. Much more convenient than setting the timer.
A very successful photographer who specialises in portraiture that I follow reckons he learnt most of what he knows about portrait lighting from self-portraits. This I've found is a pretty common opinion. I've even tried a few myself and I must say you do learn a lot without testing the patience of your model/subject.

XKjimmy

3,754 posts

185 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Thanks guys smile

I may well give that ago then, I have the sky port to control the strobes at the moment. I'll have a look into what I need for remote shutter release.

LongQ

13,864 posts

235 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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At the lower level a cable release can cost just a couple of quid but the cable tends to be only about 60cms long - a bit short for self portraits.

Hahnel do a range of releases from the simple but competent cable type with entension cable and, for Canon and I think Nikon, 2 adapters so that one kit will fit any of that manufacturer's cameras. (Or with all the adpters any camera you might want to use.)


I have one. A bit pricier at £13 (or more) but a convenient way of covering all needs and it's pretty good quality.

They also do much more expensive stuff.

As for a Skyport ... in theory you just need another receiver and a connector cable from that to the remote control socket on the camera body. However I'm not sure if that might introduce sync problems if you simply use the transmitter to fire the camera and the flashes independently using a single transmitter. If I get a moment I'll set it up to see if there are any obvious problems but I can only test with famer flash units not studio stuff.

The alternative would seem to be to get a spare Universal Kit, set the camera and lights up as you normally would. Plug the extra reciever into the remote control socket on the camera and trigger the camera using the extra transmitter test button (on a different channel of course). The on-camera transmitter should then respond to the camera being triggered and activate the strobes just is it would do normally.

Obviously when not using the Universal set as a remote you have another trigger and a spare transmitter. Skyports seems to come up quite frequently on eBay.

XKjimmy

3,754 posts

185 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Many thanks for the reply LongQ, very useful that : )

I had a Hahnel remote shutter release for my last camera, great but of kit. Don't think I remember how much that cost me.

The idea about buying the extra Skyport is good, I may have a look on eBay, see what they are going for.

Certainly would be a much better way of experimenting with different camera angles.

Matt Seabrook

563 posts

253 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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Self portrait


Genie by Matt Seabrook, on Flickr

FunkyNige

8,930 posts

277 months

Tuesday 25th December 2012
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LongQ said:
At the lower level a cable release can cost just a couple of quid but the cable tends to be only about 60cms long - a bit short for self portraits.

Hahnel do a range of releases from the simple but competent cable type with entension cable and, for Canon and I think Nikon, 2 adapters so that one kit will fit any of that manufacturer's cameras. (Or with all the adpters any camera you might want to use.)


I have one. A bit pricier at £13 (or more) but a convenient way of covering all needs and it's pretty good quality.

They also do much more expensive stuff.

As for a Skyport ... in theory you just need another receiver and a connector cable from that to the remote control socket on the camera body. However I'm not sure if that might introduce sync problems if you simply use the transmitter to fire the camera and the flashes independently using a single transmitter. If I get a moment I'll set it up to see if there are any obvious problems but I can only test with famer flash units not studio stuff.

The alternative would seem to be to get a spare Universal Kit, set the camera and lights up as you normally would. Plug the extra reciever into the remote control socket on the camera and trigger the camera using the extra transmitter test button (on a different channel of course). The on-camera transmitter should then respond to the camera being triggered and activate the strobes just is it would do normally.

Obviously when not using the Universal set as a remote you have another trigger and a spare transmitter. Skyports seems to come up quite frequently on eBay.
90% certain the Canon one is just a 3.5mm mono jack, I found this out when I plugged a mono extension cable in to see what happened and it started taking photos! Or it could be the smaller one and I used an adaptor, it's definitely an audio cable though (I don't have my camera with me to check). It seems like you break the connection to take the photo. 3m extension cable is about £2.50 delivered on Amazon ( link) if I am remembering things right and not talking rubbish...

4Lmike

1,910 posts

172 months

danneth

997 posts

189 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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Druid

1,312 posts

183 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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She quite bewitched me! New camera and not sure what I'm doing yet!


DSC03024 by KennyDrew, on Flickr

DIW35

4,146 posts

202 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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