420 SEAC restoration begins

420 SEAC restoration begins

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cuneus

5,963 posts

244 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Transmitter Man said:
drilled disc

Phil
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drilled disc = cracked disc

They offer no advantage

Transmitter Man

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4,253 posts

226 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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I hear where you're coming from and I know the ride will be harsher but I kind of prefer it. The tyres on my other car are nearly as low and I'll be going lower still as the factory stock 285/40/15's Pirelli P7's are no longer in production and with only a few Yoka's out there of course with taller wheels.

I think part of the problem people have is switching to lower profile tyres and staying with factory standard shocks & springs. This is bound to cause problems don't you think?

Phil
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rev-erend

21,441 posts

286 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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My Focus RS has 30 series tyres and the ride is just terrible.

I would not specify these tyres to anyone except a track day addict.

Transmitter Man

Original Poster:

4,253 posts

226 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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David,

I'm aware there are potential problems with drilled discs but AFAIK this is from heavy track use and not regular street use.

I read somewhere that the reason most of the exotica out there still use drilled discs is more for aesthetic reasons and the fact that they tend to go for more holes to lower the unsprung weight if only by a small amount.

Anyways, my car will only be used on the street and I want some of that bling.

Phil
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dinkel

27,008 posts

260 months

Monday 30th August 2010
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As for braking: what you want is they won't fade and keep performing even after a series of bends when doing the lanes. Track use of course is different but you sometimes have the same conditions for a short period of time when blasting on your way without any coppers in sight. Just my 2 pc.

Looks a superb project Phil, and the car so deserves this.


Spring 2009, freshly fetched car with not much done at the time. Felt good and was OK at our weekends blast to GW and London city traffic horror.

Transmitter Man

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4,253 posts

226 months

Monday 30th August 2010
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Hi Al,

The problem was back then I though the car handled reasonably well.

How little did I know.

My De Tomaso is nearly twice the weight (3800lb) and handles twice as good as the SEAC.

I wish to reverse that position and the first thing was a stiff chassis.

See you soon.

Phil
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dinkel

27,008 posts

260 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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You bought the car and gave me a weekends lift without stuff being done to the car: I thought it stood up to the test pretty well!

Of course there's areas where we spotted flaws . . . but as a package I loved it the way it was back then. It can only get better and it will. You really take this serious Phil and I admire you for doing so.

Would be cool to do a Goodwood brekkie sometime next year and see what the 'all new' SEAC has transformed into.

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phantom wedge

500 posts

209 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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Phil hi got your email sorry mate a bit late in checking them, i hope restoration is going well. Crawford.

Transmitter Man

Original Poster:

4,253 posts

226 months

Saturday 4th September 2010
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Thanks Al.

Hi Crawford,

PH's pm service is sometimes not so hot.

I've been trying to contact you for more than a year weeping

I'd like to have the contact details of your local garage that painted your car as I was very impressed with the quality.

From memory I believe he has something to do with Porches. Am I correct.

Alternatively pm me your contact number and I'll call you.

Tnx

Phil
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Transmitter Man

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4,253 posts

226 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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A teaser shot of my new brake calipers up front: nuts



Phil
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rev-erend

21,441 posts

286 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Nice smile

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,552 posts

215 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Nice, but maybe a bit OTT for a road car.
Also you could end up with longer braking distances, if your front / rear balance will be mismatched.

Transmitter Man

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4,253 posts

226 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Now Leigh,

You haven't seen what's going on the rear.

Everything will balance out nicely.

I will post pics AND spec's when I the bottom half is complete - any day now.

Phil
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simonwedge

743 posts

182 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Phil

What are your plans for brake servo/master cylinder?

P.S. Agree with your comments on drilled discs, I wanted some of that bling as well - that's why I got me these.....


Transmitter Man

Original Poster:

4,253 posts

226 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Even though I haven't requested it I've decided to go for a suitable AP master cylinder. Like most everything on my car it's either an unknown quanity, shagged or both.

Regards the servo, not sure what to do here. I'm leaving this up to the resto shop. They have a lot of circuit racing experience.

Here's some of their previous work. In-house ali hats.






This is the kind of low & wide look I'm trying to recreate;



Either of these wheels were on the shopping list but the price scared me off;



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so probably going with a far more affordable rim from Ecanto:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...

I'm in touch with the Canadian factory. Then I'll get them painted black or dark grey like the Lambo's.

Phil
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simonwedge

743 posts

182 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Well, one things for sure - you're not doing anything by halves! Look forward to seeing the finished results.

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,552 posts

215 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Transmitter Man said:
They are the same as what I have on the racer

Transmitter Man

Original Poster:

4,253 posts

226 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Don't believe in halves Simon, unfortunately one goes nearly bankrupt reaching for the stars - and I have two car builds on the go can you believe it?

Leigh, nice. What have you down out back to balance things up re braking performance?

What make of shocks do you use front & rear?

Have you still got the Salisbury internals in the diff or have you had to go to Quaiff?

One thing I won't be doing is dumping clutches!

Phil
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TVRleigh_BBWR

6,552 posts

215 months

Friday 17th September 2010
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Transmitter Man said:
Don't believe in halves Simon, unfortunately one goes nearly bankrupt reaching for the stars - and I have two car builds on the go can you believe it?

Leigh, nice. What have you down out back to balance things up re braking performance?

What make of shocks do you use front & rear?

Have you still got the Salisbury internals in the diff or have you had to go to Quaiff?

One thing I won't be doing is dumping clutches!

Phil
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Hi Phil,
The Racer had an adjustable brake bias
Also using Nitron Shock all-round, with modified mounts and front cross brace.

AFAIK I still have the Salisbury internals in the diff, but I know G fitted Quaiff internals to his, also I'm tempted to do the same just to I can get a higher ratio. Ideally would like to have 4.5:1

Transmitter Man

Original Poster:

4,253 posts

226 months

Friday 4th February 2011
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Getting there, slowly.





Rear AP outboard disc brakes with 4-pot calipers inside 10 x 18 Team Dynamics rims. Excuse the white rim protector.

You can also see the small Brembo handbrake caliper.

Just waiting now for final machining on brackets for the 6-pots up front.

Excuse my camera work but I'm not David Bailey.

Phil
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