Will you sell your Wedge?

Will you sell your Wedge?

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blaineuk

2,615 posts

248 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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don't think this would apply to wedges or any other cars registered before a certian date. only care made after the date at which the new rules came in would be affected but the new MOT ideas would apply

firefox1712

1,772 posts

256 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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This is very worrying.

As I have a Wedge (20 mpg or less), Ferrari (12 mpg), Jaguar (16-23 mpg) and an old motor home (20 mpg or less) it would be disastrous. Though I have only mastered the art of driving one vehicle at a time I already pay £165 each Road Fund Licence which no longer goes into a road fund. I insure each one which carries insurance policy tax. Every time I fill up I pay 80%+ tax. When I buy new tyres I pay VAT (a tax!). When I have the cars maintained I pay for the work and parts PLUS VAT! When I go through the Dartford Tunnel I pay a toll - a form of tax.

Apart from that, when I have a drink (which I am now being driven to) I pay quite a lot of (somebody tell me how much) excise duty PLUS VAT which is a tax on a tax! When I smoke my cigars (yes I must give up!) I pay a load of excise duty - tax - plus the goddam VAT again!

But the worst thing is - as soon as such a tax comes into force the values of our classic cars will plummet - we won't be able to sell them and I and everyone else will go bankrupt and the only people left driving on the roads will be little old biddys in Nissan Micras and civil servants in electric vehicles - and milkmen! Come to think of it, the only people still in employment will be civil servants - I must apply now!

Maybe we'll all end up wearing the same clothes, looking the same, and grunting the same noises of allegiance to the great god Government.

By the way - how many types of tax is that above - if it's more than five I'm jumping off the pier!

I'm sure they just publish ideas like this to see what the public reaction is - just because they can't work things out for themselves.

Time for a new type of government, change the world, blah blah..........

firefox

rev-erend

21,434 posts

285 months

Thursday 11th March 2004
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Firefox .. hey lighten up mate .. thete is still the BBWF to look forward too.

It's free to enter .. plus the tax of course

Tax man - Nill pounds !

JONRES

95 posts

252 months

Thursday 11th March 2004
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rev-erend said:
Firefox .. hey lighten up mate .. thete is still the BBWF to look forward too.

It's free to enter .. plus the tax of course



Don't give them any ideas!

B19 JAE

297 posts

244 months

Thursday 11th March 2004
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Wont this TAX VAT an all that set up to help fund the Nepoleonic wars or summut???
Thort they finished a long time ago!
All seems a little bit fishy to me

skyrocketship

233 posts

264 months

Friday 12th March 2004
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no I wouldn't - but we could ALL make them "track day cars" (at least we wouldn't need to go through the MOT every year) and start a new race series using the M6 Toll road as our track

firefox1712

1,772 posts

256 months

Friday 12th March 2004
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Reve-erend -

I forgot - we will all be paying VAT (tax) on the rooms and the meals we have at the BBWF!

We should not forget that Kingship (and hence government) started off as a protection racket and the tithes paid were then a form of tax and later eveolved into the taxes we know today.

Perhaps I can invent a new tax and earn a massive fee which will help me pay all the taxes due!

firefox

rev-erend

21,434 posts

285 months

Friday 12th March 2004
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I would just like to add this is tax deductable - a capital loss.

I will be at the front of the Q at the bar lossing loads .. paying for the hotel etc..

2 sheds

2,529 posts

285 months

Friday 12th March 2004
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I can't see them getting away with it, surely political suicide ? It works in Italy because it was started early enough but this would upset 1/2 the driving population.
Tim

dickymint

24,531 posts

259 months

Saturday 13th March 2004
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rev-erend said:
I would just like to add this is tax deductable - a capital loss.

I will be at the front of the Q at the bar lossing loads .. paying for the hotel etc..


So if we all drink on your tab Rev.............your quids in? come on lads lets help Rev

Broadside

856 posts

283 months

Saturday 13th March 2004
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What the Government seem to have forgotten is that everyone aged 18 and over can vote, and a very high percentage of people of voting age also have driving licences. Anything that affects drivers will reduce the number of votes that the Govt can hope to get. I for one will not be voting for this mob again, they can sniff my exhaust and like it !!!

Nige'

rev-erend

21,434 posts

285 months

Sunday 14th March 2004
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dickymint said:

rev-erend said:
I would just like to add this is tax deductable - a capital loss.

I will be at the front of the Q at the bar lossing loads .. paying for the hotel etc..



So if we all drink on your tab Rev.............your quids in? come on lads lets help Rev


Hey - that sounds like a good idea... must do that.

firefox1712

1,772 posts

256 months

Monday 15th March 2004
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How is the BBWF a tax loss? Please advise.

firefox

wedg1e

26,809 posts

266 months

Monday 15th March 2004
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firefox1712 said:
This is very worrying.

Though I have only mastered the art of driving one vehicle at a time I already pay £165 each Road Fund Licence which no longer goes into a road fund. firefox


No you don't. You pay Vehicle Excise Duty which is a tax for using a vehicle on the public highway. What 'they' do with it is not your concern.

It is surely just a matter of time before 'they' introduce a tax for OWNING a vehicle - whether driven, parked, stripped for repair or whatever. No doubt it'll be an 'environmental' tax, justified on the grounds that sooner or later the vehicle will have to be disposed of in a suitably 'green' fashion, whether in your lifetime or not. Although round here the scrotes have a similar 'disposal' notion that is commonly applied to Escorts, Fiestas and Novas: they are stolen and burned out in a field....

Ian

adam quantrill

11,538 posts

243 months

Wednesday 17th March 2004
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VED isn't changing - not even the usual annual hike.

As I missed out retaxing my car yesterday I'm a
very happy bunny!!!!

Time for that 460 upgrade methinks - instead of the
200 Turbo ;^@

firefox1712

1,772 posts

256 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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Yes Wedgie -

I was waiting for someone to spot that - it is indeed Vehicle Excise Duty.

Interesting - VED didn't go up yesterday - I feel lightheaded!

But that means it will go up next year!

firefox