Wedge Under Bonnet Pics

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John042

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892 posts

175 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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Hi Marcus. Can't open the pics yet but are you saying that alternator and PAS pump were mounted on the same side? Just had a chat with Tickover & Capri Club and their consensus was that my top forged bracket is from a Capri and the Granada was the same. They were of the opinion that TVR made a special bracket? Going to have another session tonight and as some have suggested mount the alternator with the front triangular plate and tension bar and see where the unit sits. S**t this problem is growing legs,arms and teeth! John C

mrzigazaga

18,586 posts

171 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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Hi John...Yes there was a forged TVR bracket ...I know the one on Delilah was as it had an extra mounting for the PAS pump...But then I'm sure i have seen one like yours on a friends later 280i...I will email him to see if he has any pics...Im about to go through all my posts from when i joined as I'm sure there are a few there...

John042

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892 posts

175 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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Hi Marcus/Zig yes those photos do show the alt' mounted quite high up and it appears no mounting on the exhaust? So I guess the mounting was attached at the front to the timing case. I've just tried the same using the triangular plate with two tensioning bars joined together to reach the bottom of the alt'. It look horrible and not very secure. The only good thing being it lines up with the bottom pulley. Also there's not a lot of adjustment. Failing any other ideas, I think this will be the basis of the only position to mount it.
Cheers John C.

mrzigazaga

18,586 posts

171 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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Could it be something like this....

marcus1875

1,512 posts

148 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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What about this one on ebay?
Sorry dont know how to link to ebay, perhaps Mark could oblige?
Cheers
Marcus

mrzigazaga

18,586 posts

171 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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Hi Marcus ..Its for an Essex engine so won't fit...

marcus1875

1,512 posts

148 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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Blast. I thought the bits would be interchangeable. Oh well, keep searching.
Marcus

mrzigazaga

18,586 posts

171 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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Im intrigued by Jon's pics i posted up...The PAS pump and bracket should be tried in this position as it doesn't look like it would fit on the N/S due to the shape of the bolt positions of the bracket...Bit of a jigsaw this one but once the corners are in the rest will slot into place...(Theoretically wobble)

John042

Original Poster:

892 posts

175 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Hi all. Just an update to the saga. I managed to track down the previous owner who kindly gave me a bit of informative help. In his ownership the steering rack was, as fitted. However whilst the engine was being rebuilt he acquired a different block to rebuild the engine? That might account for the alternator mountings not fitting. The trick now is to see if my fabrications will work or even identify the block. At least it dispels any theory of a different rack being retro fitted. Cheers John C.

mrzigazaga

18,586 posts

171 months

Saturday 8th August 2015
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John042 said:
whilst the engine was being rebuilt he acquired a different block to rebuild the engine? That might account for the alternator mountings not fitting.
If he used a 2.8i V6 cologne block then all the mounting holes would of been the same...I still think the knuckle on the lower steering column shaft looks too high...You can just about see it in the pic Andy posted up...Mine was there same..Do you have any pics of the rack?...

John042

Original Poster:

892 posts

175 months

Sunday 9th August 2015
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Again thanks for the pic of your brackets RCK974X. As you can see from my pics that steering bottom UJ is at a really steep angle to connect with the racks shaft. According to the previous owner it was with the car which he drove for some years. That's been the problem all along with the alternator which is now mounted on manufacture brackets but needs fabrication of the tension bar. The PAS pump as you can see is mounted on the nearside (Ford original position?) In the mists of time I reckon that steering rack has been replaced?
Here's a couple of pics hopefully showing the rack. There isn't any mounting holes for the PAS pump on the drivers side of the block?? Cheers John C.




mrzigazaga

18,586 posts

171 months

Sunday 9th August 2015
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Hi John....That rack doesn't look like a cortina mk4-5 to me..Or even a TVR special...??....The PAS pump was driver side with the ford's although I'm sure i have seen a later 280i with it on the drivers side...The alternator doesn't look right mate...I will have a look in the garage next week to see if i have a TVR alternator/PAS pump bracket that you can have...smile

John042

Original Poster:

892 posts

175 months

Sunday 9th August 2015
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Thanks Zig, it's the tension bracket that needs sorting as now, with my manufactured brackets, one to the timing case the other to exhaust mountings, the alternator sits quite high up, but at least it's in line with the pulleys and has enough movement to tension the belt. The tension bracket needs to be quite long to reach the timing case securing bolt hence the two temporary ones joined together in the pic. I agree that rack doesn't look original. Bit of a jigsaw this one? On a complete different tangent, can the PAS pump drive shaft seal be replaced as I've noticed a slight static leak running down the mounting plate. Not unexpected after 14 years of inactivity! At the moment I'm trying to work out which vacum/water pipes go where especially the drivers side of the pleumn chamber and a small diameter pipe from the cold start device which sits on the radiator top hose connection. Sorry for all the questions Zig. Maybe it would be better if I pm'd you with a list? laughlaughCheers John C

mrzigazaga

18,586 posts

171 months

Sunday 9th August 2015
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Hi mate..Not sure what bit you are talking about?..If its the black plastic fuel pipe..(6mm) from the cold start injector then that should go to the metering head...Pics are always a big helper...

I don't mind helping you mate..Its what its all about...smile

Is the said item in these pics?



John042

Original Poster:

892 posts

175 months

Sunday 9th August 2015
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Thanks Zig pics are good. OK, here's a list:wavey

Expension tank has 3 x connections??
The second from the left is a small right angled hose. Don't seem to have a home for it?
My thermostat housing at the front has a large connection to the bottom of radiator the other, connection to the heater? At the rear of the housing, a connection to the top of the engine adjacent to the cold start device?? Bit of bend in that one. Here's some more pics. Any thought on PAS pump shaft leaks Zig? Thanks for your time and patience. John C.




mrzigazaga

18,586 posts

171 months

Sunday 9th August 2015
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Hi mate...Just going through an old hard drive...I found this pic if it helps...

Also some of my original air box and mod..The first one i did...

TVR original set-up


2 x 3" drainage 90 degree elbows..You only need one but have a spare if you fudge it up...After shaping with a heat gun..Not too hot or close...



I then used a rubber sleeve that i bought originally for the throttle body but utilised it here..Bound it with amalgamating tape and then covered in in foil tape..


I then connected a cold air feed to a K&N filter mounted in the nose cone.

If the pump is leaking anywhere then it might need an overhaul..I do have one that was rebuilt in the garage...If not i definitely have the capri one that bolts to the N\S but would not be anywhere near your air filter box...Also on that note if you use it as is then please put a panel filter behind the mesh..It should still fit a filter..

PUMP

John042

Original Poster:

892 posts

175 months

Sunday 9th August 2015
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Thanks Zig, connections are similar to mine but there are only two connections in/out of the radiator. Unless there is a small return under the filler cap. Will look later. I have the plastic tee piece with bits of hose on so will see where it might reach. One bit does seem to route towards that connection at the top of the block, which would then leave me with the connection at the rear of the thermostat housing, to where? At present this is connected to the top of the block? I still have the small right angled vaccum elbow on the drivers side of the pleugm to connect? Again I'm faced with unknow parts and what was taken off where. Thankyou for the offer of a PAS pump Zig, it might have to come to replacement if I can't reseal mine. Cheers John C.

John042

Original Poster:

892 posts

175 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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Thanks Rick. I will sort out what pipes go where from your detailed info'. There are quite a few odd points about the Cologne coling system. In deed, why have an expanion tank? I sssume the radiator cap is just a cap, not a relief valve for pressure/vacuum? I have a long heater pipe on the nearside which seems to be formed to fit on the front of the thermostat housing. Would that be right? The rear connection from the stat' housing, at the moment is connected up to the top of the engine? Why? Is that a by-pass? The small right angled hose from the offside of the plenum casing I think is a breather for the crankcase? Where it connects, who knows! confused Anyway cheers Rick, with your info I can at less start eliminating pipes and connections. John C.

mrzigazaga

18,586 posts

171 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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Hi John...Here are some more pics of the hoses...You should have enough info now to crack on...




If you are still struggling just take a pic of what you have and we will tell you where it goes...(Or try to)....smile

John042

Original Poster:

892 posts

175 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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Thanks Zig, at work so can't open pics. However with yours and Ricks info I should sort it!laugh Many thanks to you both for your help in the ongoing saga of "Wesley" as this project is now named amongst other expletives at times.mad Cheers John C.