Petition to Welsh Govt. against 20mph limit

[Tyre Tread]

In case anybody is interested: https://petitions.senedd.wales/petitions/245406

It's at 7236 signatures as at the point of posting this.

[Trev450]

Done.

[FlabbyMidgets]

There is a main road near my dads that has had posts put in on every single side road. I assume these are 20/30 signs but currently covered in tape. Would be interested to see what the cost of all this is.

[Spevs]

Done

[Vincecj]

FlabbyMidgets said:

There is a main road near my dads that has had posts put in on every single side road. I assume these are 20/30 signs but currently covered in tape. Would be interested to see what the cost of all this is.

I think £32,000,000

[bazza white]

signed. Its going to be absolutely hateful.

[Blue_star]

8272.

Those guys have completely lost their minds.

[Geffg]

Signed.

[The Nige]

9,232

[CoolHands]

So scuse my ignorance what is happening / changing? I’m in England.

Edited by CoolHands on Saturday 15th April 21:37

[Mr Whippy]

Looks like all 30s to be 20s.

Seems a bit excessive given the 30s creep we’ve seen in the last 20 years.


I’m sure it’ll be widely ignored.


Before you know it there will be a reduction in tourism, studies showing no benefit to anything, but lots of costs, and then another £50mm spent changing it all back.


When will voters start holding their elected representatives to account?
Money wasting idiocy reigns supreme in Wales.

[Geffg]

Give it 10yrs they’ll be down to 10mph, as we’ve got to make sure pedestrians who cant be responsible for themselves are protected and hinder everyone else. Then after that we can all get rid of cars as it’ll be quicker to walk. Get rid of foreign travel on planes, ships etc as they pollute too much. This on top of no one can have a laugh with each other, no banter. Should be a fun world we will soon live in.

[framerateuk]

Mr Whippy said:

Looks like all 30s to be 20s.

Seems a bit excessive given the 30s creep we’ve seen in the last 20 years.

I’m sure it’ll be widely ignored.
.

I'm not sure the blanket change is going to sort the problem.
My village has a 30 limit, which is quite high given how twisty and narrow the streets are.

Lots of people ignore the 30 limit as it is, and it's pretty dangerous to be honest, especially given there's sections in the middle of the village with no pavements, forcing you to walk on the road.

I don't see a 20 limit sorting that issue, as those who ignore will continue to ignore.

I that it's a 'they have to be seen to be doing something' option. But that's pointless. Solve these issues properly or don't bother.

[Mr Whippy]

framerateuk said:

Mr Whippy said:

Looks like all 30s to be 20s.

Seems a bit excessive given the 30s creep we’ve seen in the last 20 years.

I’m sure it’ll be widely ignored.
.

I'm not sure the blanket change is going to sort the problem.
My village has a 30 limit, which is quite high given how twisty and narrow the streets are.

Lots of people ignore the 30 limit as it is, and it's pretty dangerous to be honest, especially given there's sections in the middle of the village with no pavements, forcing you to walk on the road.

I don't see a 20 limit sorting that issue, as those who ignore will continue to ignore.

I that it's a 'they have to be seen to be doing something' option. But that's pointless. Solve these issues properly or don't bother.

Yup.

Solutions:
Traffic calming.
By-pass.
Average speed camera over village.
Etc

But a blanket limit change, cheap and they can say all sorts of nonsense to say how it’s better.


My local big village (a town but feels villagey) is the same.
20mph but many people, especially locals, drive like idiots, park on the double yellows, mount pavements at speed to pass other cars etc.
I’m amazed no one is killed. It puts me off using the high street in a relaxed way. I don’t take my young kids there.

The pedestrian crossing was even taken out by a speeding local in a LR Discovery, somehow got out of shape and rolled over the pavement/barrier area.

Another car took out part of the bridge at another time.

I was nearly run over by a car overtaking a stopped car at the pedestrian crossing.


Yes, it boils my piss too that the ‘solution’ is 20mph limits, because it’s just a number on a sign.
Utterly meaningless.

[rev-erend]

OK signed.

Now over 10,000 and will be debated and will then be totally ignored.

[BoRED S2upid]

So every single 30mph sign in Wales would have to be replaced with 20mph? Isn’t that going to cost a lot? I guess the fines pay for it in the long run. Everyone in Wales is going to have a lot of pints on their license 3points for 23mph ouch.

[Tyre Tread]

rev-erend said:

OK signed.

Now over 10,000 and will be debated and will then be totally ignored.

I thought that too and then i re-read the wording on the Welsh Gubberment website which says"The Petitions Committee considers all petitions that get more than 10,000 signatures for a debate" so not even any guarantee that it will make any difference whatsoever.

[Fusion777]

Signed. 11,104.

[undred orse]

Done

11278

But no chance they’ll take the slightest bit of notice.
Plaid continue to betray the best interests of Wales and labour will continue their business wrecking agenda unchecked.

[Penny Whistle]

Mr Whippy said:

When will voters start holding their elected representatives to account?
Money wasting idiocy reigns supreme in Wales.

But they've announced they're changing the name of the Brecon Beacons. Surely that's money well spent (not) ? Though I'm hoping it's just a delayed April Fool.