Anyone moved from the UK to live in the USA?
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It would be great to live in the USA but I/we simply could not accept 10days annual leave.
I was gutted at moving down from 30 days to 25 + BH. Life is a lot more than work work work.
As for each weekend is a holiday... ballet classes swimming lessons parties etc (kids ) that would be a total no. So 2 weeks a year.
Christ how do people in the USA go on frequent ski holidays?
I was gutted at moving down from 30 days to 25 + BH. Life is a lot more than work work work.
As for each weekend is a holiday... ballet classes swimming lessons parties etc (kids ) that would be a total no. So 2 weeks a year.
Christ how do people in the USA go on frequent ski holidays?
Welshbeef said:
It would be great to live in the USA but I/we simply could not accept 10days annual leave.
I moved over on 15 vacation days + 3 floaters + public holidays and I was relatively junior as I was 25 with 2 years industry experience. Today I have 20 days + floaters +personal days. I have just done a 2 week tour of Europe and will be going on a week holiday in September. The flexible work from home policy helps because I don't have to take days off for school visits and dentist appointments.
Americans choose to work long hours and not go on long vacations. That does not mean you will have to do the same to be successful. In my opinion, those that work long hours are not ideal candidates for promotion because they have reached capacity. (not always true and is an over simplification but we are not here to discuss efficiency.)
h0b0 said:
I moved over on 15 vacation days + 3 floaters + public holidays and I was relatively junior as I was 25 with 2 years industry experience.
Today I have 20 days + floaters +personal days. I have just done a 2 week tour of Europe and will be going on a week holiday in September. The flexible work from home policy helps because I don't have to take days off for school visits and dentist appointments.
Americans choose to work long hours and not go on long vacations. That does not mean you will have to do the same to be successful. In my opinion, those that work long hours are not ideal candidates for promotion because they have reached capacity. (not always true and is an over simplification but we are not here to discuss efficiency.)
Lol are you being serious time off for a dentist appointment!Today I have 20 days + floaters +personal days. I have just done a 2 week tour of Europe and will be going on a week holiday in September. The flexible work from home policy helps because I don't have to take days off for school visits and dentist appointments.
Americans choose to work long hours and not go on long vacations. That does not mean you will have to do the same to be successful. In my opinion, those that work long hours are not ideal candidates for promotion because they have reached capacity. (not always true and is an over simplification but we are not here to discuss efficiency.)
Better hope the gas boiler service or when it breaks down you'll burn all your leave!
Welshbeef said:
Lol are you being serious time off for a dentist appointment!
Better hope the gas boiler service or when it breaks down you'll burn all your leave!
Erm, I was saying time off isn't required. I used to work for a U.K. Company in the U.K. And they would at least expect you to make up time lost due to a dentist appointment Better hope the gas boiler service or when it breaks down you'll burn all your leave!
Welshbeef said:
It would be great to live in the USA but I/we simply could not accept 10days annual leave.
I was gutted at moving down from 30 days to 25 + BH. Life is a lot more than work work work.
As for each weekend is a holiday... ballet classes swimming lessons parties etc (kids ) that would be a total no. So 2 weeks a year.
Christ how do people in the USA go on frequent ski holidays?
I took 45 days last year. Don't be a slave and you won't get treated like one I was gutted at moving down from 30 days to 25 + BH. Life is a lot more than work work work.
As for each weekend is a holiday... ballet classes swimming lessons parties etc (kids ) that would be a total no. So 2 weeks a year.
Christ how do people in the USA go on frequent ski holidays?
Stu R said:
Welshbeef said:
It would be great to live in the USA but I/we simply could not accept 10days annual leave.
I was gutted at moving down from 30 days to 25 + BH. Life is a lot more than work work work.
As for each weekend is a holiday... ballet classes swimming lessons parties etc (kids ) that would be a total no. So 2 weeks a year.
Christ how do people in the USA go on frequent ski holidays?
I took 45 days last year. Don't be a slave and you won't get treated like one I was gutted at moving down from 30 days to 25 + BH. Life is a lot more than work work work.
As for each weekend is a holiday... ballet classes swimming lessons parties etc (kids ) that would be a total no. So 2 weeks a year.
Christ how do people in the USA go on frequent ski holidays?
I've never taken less than 3 weeks plus public holidays and occasional personal days. In my first job here it had to be earned with time so I took part of it unpaid for a couple of years. When I moved jobs I negotiated it in from the start.
unrepentant said:
Stu R said:
Welshbeef said:
It would be great to live in the USA but I/we simply could not accept 10days annual leave.
I was gutted at moving down from 30 days to 25 + BH. Life is a lot more than work work work.
As for each weekend is a holiday... ballet classes swimming lessons parties etc (kids ) that would be a total no. So 2 weeks a year.
Christ how do people in the USA go on frequent ski holidays?
I took 45 days last year. Don't be a slave and you won't get treated like one I was gutted at moving down from 30 days to 25 + BH. Life is a lot more than work work work.
As for each weekend is a holiday... ballet classes swimming lessons parties etc (kids ) that would be a total no. So 2 weeks a year.
Christ how do people in the USA go on frequent ski holidays?
I've never taken less than 3 weeks plus public holidays and occasional personal days. In my first job here it had to be earned with time so I took part of it unpaid for a couple of years. When I moved jobs I negotiated it in from the start.
I wonder where all of this 10 days max stuff comes from too.
I get 4 weeks + (some) public holidays + all of the time between Christmas and New Year - I'm in qualitative market research (pharma industry)
Wife gets 3 weeks + main public holidays (or time-off in lieu) - she's a director of clinical reimbursement in a big hospital system
Daughter gets 3 weeks and time-off in lieu of main public holidays - she's in law enforcement
I get 4 weeks + (some) public holidays + all of the time between Christmas and New Year - I'm in qualitative market research (pharma industry)
Wife gets 3 weeks + main public holidays (or time-off in lieu) - she's a director of clinical reimbursement in a big hospital system
Daughter gets 3 weeks and time-off in lieu of main public holidays - she's in law enforcement
Matt Harper said:
I wonder where all of this 10 days max stuff comes from too.
I get 4 weeks + (some) public holidays + all of the time between Christmas and New Year - I'm in qualitative market research (pharma industry)
Wife gets 3 weeks + main public holidays (or time-off in lieu) - she's a director of clinical reimbursement in a big hospital system
Daughter gets 3 weeks and time-off in lieu of main public holidays - she's in law enforcement
Quite common in first 10 years in engineering and tech (10-15 days / yr)I get 4 weeks + (some) public holidays + all of the time between Christmas and New Year - I'm in qualitative market research (pharma industry)
Wife gets 3 weeks + main public holidays (or time-off in lieu) - she's a director of clinical reimbursement in a big hospital system
Daughter gets 3 weeks and time-off in lieu of main public holidays - she's in law enforcement
I managed to get 18 days plus state holidays when I moved. Just so happens my employer has gone to unlimited vacation now, the idea being that resource constraints and managers will stop people taking the proverbial. Seems to be working ok so far and i'm planning to bump my leave to around 30 odd days per annum from now on, so attitudes are changing!
h0b0 said:
K50 DEL said:
Similar to me, god knows how many trips, 47 States visited but, at 37 years old despite having a good CV and trying for over a decade I simply cannot get myself a position there.
Probably the only time in my life that I regret being in IT, there's simply too much home-grown ability in the US for any company to need to employ me!
I work in IT for one of the big banks in the NYC area. I would estimate 50% of the people in my building (>3000) are not US nationals. It is a running joke when we have to go to diversity training. Probably the only time in my life that I regret being in IT, there's simply too much home-grown ability in the US for any company to need to employ me!
My move over to the US was in the pharmaceutical industry in 2004. I was on an L1 inter company transfer visa. My company then paid for a Green card through marriage. They did stop at paying for the actual wedding or supplying the bride though. I made the jump over to Finance because there is more opportunity in the Tri-state area.
Anyway, to the point. Your IT background is not holding you back. However, if you are trying to land a job in Google you will not have a chance as you say.
Edited by h0b0 on Thursday 13th July 21:34
As you note, maybe the best route is to try and get a position here in the UK with a company who have operations in the USA and then transfer..... unless you guys need an IT Manager of course lol
K50 DEL said:
h0b0 said:
K50 DEL said:
Similar to me, god knows how many trips, 47 States visited but, at 37 years old despite having a good CV and trying for over a decade I simply cannot get myself a position there.
Probably the only time in my life that I regret being in IT, there's simply too much home-grown ability in the US for any company to need to employ me!
I work in IT for one of the big banks in the NYC area. I would estimate 50% of the people in my building (>3000) are not US nationals. It is a running joke when we have to go to diversity training. Probably the only time in my life that I regret being in IT, there's simply too much home-grown ability in the US for any company to need to employ me!
My move over to the US was in the pharmaceutical industry in 2004. I was on an L1 inter company transfer visa. My company then paid for a Green card through marriage. They did stop at paying for the actual wedding or supplying the bride though. I made the jump over to Finance because there is more opportunity in the Tri-state area.
Anyway, to the point. Your IT background is not holding you back. However, if you are trying to land a job in Google you will not have a chance as you say.
Edited by h0b0 on Thursday 13th July 21:34
As you note, maybe the best route is to try and get a position here in the UK with a company who have operations in the USA and then transfer..... unless you guys need an IT Manager of course lol
Personally I like to keep the US at arms length and work 'remotely'
Trexthedinosaur said:
One of the main reasons I turned my US job down, 15 + public day's, currently on 30 + pd, my friend has just took a role In France and you are looking at 40-45 days there.
To be fair I'd struggle with that as well, I was on 44 in Dubai and as a contractor in the UK for the last 2 years I'm free to take as many or as few days as I choose. 15 would be a little awkward!I've had a bunch of jobs out here and don't think it's particularly different to the UK.
In most companies out here it's a bit misleading to just quote vacation days. They also have "sick days" which are days you can use for whatever you want. It's often encouraged to use those first because they don't carry over like vacation days do.
When I first managed a team out here it threw me when people pre-booked "sick days" but that's just the way it works. Seems pretty standard to have a setup like 15 days vacation, 10 sick days and 2-4 "floating holidays" - plus the extra bank holidays.
In most companies out here it's a bit misleading to just quote vacation days. They also have "sick days" which are days you can use for whatever you want. It's often encouraged to use those first because they don't carry over like vacation days do.
When I first managed a team out here it threw me when people pre-booked "sick days" but that's just the way it works. Seems pretty standard to have a setup like 15 days vacation, 10 sick days and 2-4 "floating holidays" - plus the extra bank holidays.
Vacation days can be mean, especially for new hires. However some companies are changing their attitude and realising that you are being paid to do a job. http://fortune.com/2016/03/10/companies-offering-u...
Trexthedinosaur said:
One of the main reasons I turned my US job down, 15 + public day's, currently on 30 + pd, my friend has just took a role In France and you are looking at 40-45 days there.
My wife took a new job even tho she only got 10 days pa as it paid 3 times what she earnt in the UK and enjoyed it.I don't know anyone here on 10, usual I have seen in Financial Services is 15 min + the state holidays or when the stock market is closed, so generally 20 ish and then a few days when the business is closed over the Christmas break.
Del, I think we were in the UAE at the same time (you know Gaffer, Shirt, Ian etc), did you take the Fezza back to the UK??
Del, I think we were in the UAE at the same time (you know Gaffer, Shirt, Ian etc), did you take the Fezza back to the UK??
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