What to replace a TVR Chimaera 500 with?
Discussion
Belle427 said:
Maybe something like a Carrera 4S would suit you, lovely car, not too ott power wise and grip to give you confidence.
You might be right but found many of the German options mainly a little too sterile so a step in the right direction maybe too far. I had a 987 Boxster S and really enjoyed it but as a 4th kind of car it wasn't special enough or enough of an event. A perfectly good car just maybe just a smidge too much of a daily kind of drive to be what I was looking for. I drove a 911 Carerra 2S on track some years back and loved it but I just hate the 996 interiors. A 997 could work but was hoping to get away from the German options to something a bit different.Don't laugh but a Mustang is fairly high up the list at the moment.
As long as the Mustang is a V8!
problem is there is so much nice machinery out there its a tough choice.
I said I'd buy a 997 Porsche for my 50 th in 3 years time as I'd always loved them but the engine problems scare me.
The 996 Turbo although older avoids these issues but are a little dated now.
Tough but nice dilemmas!
problem is there is so much nice machinery out there its a tough choice.
I said I'd buy a 997 Porsche for my 50 th in 3 years time as I'd always loved them but the engine problems scare me.
The 996 Turbo although older avoids these issues but are a little dated now.
Tough but nice dilemmas!
Edited by Belle427 on Friday 30th October 16:02
Indeed....first world problems! Yes, the Mustang of course would be a V8 
I think I would have a 997 911 or a Boxster or something like that if it did more daily duties but I have the XJL for that.
Like you the potential engine issues worry a little on the Porsche's but I guess are often over dramatised. Also many have had the IMS bearing replaced/upgraded now or would have had issues if they were going to fail. Some merit in buying an older car with some miles in this regard.
I would look at a 996 911 Turbo but just not sure I could live with that interior. The 997 or Boxster 987 was a step on. I would also prefer a Cayman to a Boxster as not a fan of convertible's per se.
I think I would have a 997 911 or a Boxster or something like that if it did more daily duties but I have the XJL for that.
Like you the potential engine issues worry a little on the Porsche's but I guess are often over dramatised. Also many have had the IMS bearing replaced/upgraded now or would have had issues if they were going to fail. Some merit in buying an older car with some miles in this regard.
I would look at a 996 911 Turbo but just not sure I could live with that interior. The 997 or Boxster 987 was a step on. I would also prefer a Cayman to a Boxster as not a fan of convertible's per se.
I've not seen the 996 interiors close up, this caught my eye, a little expensive and the description hurts my eyes but nice.
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10747793?c...
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10747793?c...
Belle427 said:
I've not seen the 996 interiors close up, this caught my eye, a little expensive and the description hurts my eyes but nice.
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10747793?c...
Looks nice and I'm a sucker for a dark blue metallic. I guess my other detraction from a 911 Turbo is I am not a fan of turbo's per se. Much prefer an N/A or S/C motor. I find all that boom and bust of most non-modern turbo's of no power then all loads of power a little tiresome.https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10747793?c...
Some of course love the thrill of a turbo motor coming on boost and the shove it gives. Much like the old Maserati 3200 twin turbo's. Which is why I preferred and bought my 4200. Cracking powerplant that F136. Love it.
David Beer said:
Mmmmm....very nice. Really not helping though 
I am trying to spend upto £25k not £50k LOLMaybe they can do a 0% PCP deal for 3 years and I'll worry about the rest in 3 years!
David Beer said:
Love my mustang but it’s convertible! I note the 10 speed auto is quicker than the manual. Ok it’s only .3 to sixty .rockits said:
Indeed....first world problems! Yes, the Mustang of course would be a V8
I think I would have a 997 911 or a Boxster or something like that if it did more daily duties but I have the XJL for that.
Like you the potential engine issues worry a little on the Porsche's but I guess are often over dramatised. Also many have had the IMS bearing replaced/upgraded now or would have had issues if they were going to fail. Some merit in buying an older car with some miles in this regard.
I would look at a 996 911 Turbo but just not sure I could live with that interior. The 997 or Boxster 987 was a step on. I would also prefer a Cayman to a Boxster as not a fan of convertible's per se.
Maybe an older 911 would suit. A pal of mine traded up his 997 ( which he had from new so getting on for 15 years) to a 964 and loves its more analog nature.I think I would have a 997 911 or a Boxster or something like that if it did more daily duties but I have the XJL for that.
Like you the potential engine issues worry a little on the Porsche's but I guess are often over dramatised. Also many have had the IMS bearing replaced/upgraded now or would have had issues if they were going to fail. Some merit in buying an older car with some miles in this regard.
I would look at a 996 911 Turbo but just not sure I could live with that interior. The 997 or Boxster 987 was a step on. I would also prefer a Cayman to a Boxster as not a fan of convertible's per se.
rockits said:
Mmmmm....very nice. Really not helping though I am trying to spend upto £25k not £50k LOL
Maybe they can do a 0% PCP deal for 3 years and I'll worry about the rest in 3 years!
They certainly did, but I think not now, but Bristol street do. I am trying to spend upto £25k not £50k LOLMaybe they can do a 0% PCP deal for 3 years and I'll worry about the rest in 3 years!
It’s got be worth a call to them.
David Beer said:
They certainly did, but I think not now, but Bristol street do.
It’s got be worth a call to them.
Funny you should say that as found myself looking at these on the Bristol Street site last night!It’s got be worth a call to them.
That Mach 1 looks like a little cracker. Trouble is I'm into £50k then which opens a whole new door of other options as well
An added complication seems to be the stupid car tax levies that make buying a new Mustang an expensive option when added So £2175 first year car tax! Then an additional £325 per year for year 2-5 for it being over £40k new price. It is hardly encouraging people to boost the economy.
It is all well and good trying to incentivise people to buy a new car and one with better green properties it takes. However what if I don't want to buy one of those? I won't. I will also not be buying a new Mustang as refuse to pay an additional £2175 in additional car tax first year.
Also there is zero no consideration of mileage/use. I did 250 miles in my 4200 last year. It was SORN for about 9-10 months of that so there was no real additional car tax revenue gained actually less than if you had charged a reasonable amount for 12 months. Would I have driven the 4200 more? Not likely and if I did it would have been in that rather than the XJL as I can only drive one car at a time.
Also I don't do many miles any more so a new Mustang for me in a year might do 2000-2500 miles maybe. So a car that pollutes half as much that does twice the miles is the same and if does more than twice the miles it is worse. However it pays less cart tax. That doesn't make sense at all.
I have said this for years that all car tax should be on fuel. The more miles and fuel you burn the more you pay in tax. The more efficient the car the less you will pay. It is the perfect leveler and fair for all. You could also get rid of half the DVLA as you won't need them so in nett terms revenues from car tax will increase. Win win all round
So in a time of economic turmoil I would be quite prepared to go out and spend some of my hard earned on a new car to boost the economy. Except I won't due to stupid car tax levies. Makes perfect sense....not!
It is all well and good trying to incentivise people to buy a new car and one with better green properties it takes. However what if I don't want to buy one of those? I won't. I will also not be buying a new Mustang as refuse to pay an additional £2175 in additional car tax first year.
Also there is zero no consideration of mileage/use. I did 250 miles in my 4200 last year. It was SORN for about 9-10 months of that so there was no real additional car tax revenue gained actually less than if you had charged a reasonable amount for 12 months. Would I have driven the 4200 more? Not likely and if I did it would have been in that rather than the XJL as I can only drive one car at a time.
Also I don't do many miles any more so a new Mustang for me in a year might do 2000-2500 miles maybe. So a car that pollutes half as much that does twice the miles is the same and if does more than twice the miles it is worse. However it pays less cart tax. That doesn't make sense at all.
I have said this for years that all car tax should be on fuel. The more miles and fuel you burn the more you pay in tax. The more efficient the car the less you will pay. It is the perfect leveler and fair for all. You could also get rid of half the DVLA as you won't need them so in nett terms revenues from car tax will increase. Win win all round
So in a time of economic turmoil I would be quite prepared to go out and spend some of my hard earned on a new car to boost the economy. Except I won't due to stupid car tax levies. Makes perfect sense....not!
One thing that has come to light to create further anomalies with regards to the car tax position is mods. If you keep the engine and cc the same but map or modify the car I am guessing there will be increased CO2. You can tell your insurer and that is fine but you wouldn't pay any more car tax as there is not a mechanism to deal with these scenarios on the current car tax system.
So for example some of these new 4 pot turbo hot hatches can start at say 200bhp and end up modified to 400bhp so surely this would increase the CO2 emissions dramatically? However there would be no increased tax levy.
Also if this was a company car then the BIK should increase but I suspect it won't. Just another little hidden anomaly there. Might need explore this anomaly or black whole further.
So for example my Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV is zero emissions on paper, zero car tax, zero ULEZ and zero congestion charge. It has a 2.4 petrol 4 cylinder ICE that you could modify but pay none of the stuff you would pay it if were stock. Mmmmm......maybe add a turbo or supercharger to that 2.4 petrol ICE
So for example some of these new 4 pot turbo hot hatches can start at say 200bhp and end up modified to 400bhp so surely this would increase the CO2 emissions dramatically? However there would be no increased tax levy.
Also if this was a company car then the BIK should increase but I suspect it won't. Just another little hidden anomaly there. Might need explore this anomaly or black whole further.
So for example my Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV is zero emissions on paper, zero car tax, zero ULEZ and zero congestion charge. It has a 2.4 petrol 4 cylinder ICE that you could modify but pay none of the stuff you would pay it if were stock. Mmmmm......maybe add a turbo or supercharger to that 2.4 petrol ICE
I have a 2005 997 S (2005's are in the cheaper road tax bracket) its a really great car, it probably does everything my TVR does (apart from the roof coming off) but without the fuss and drama. Yes, a few of them have well publicised engine issues, but those who don't have engine issues probably never write about it on a forum.
996 turbo is a great drive but you have to get past the fried egg headlamps which (for me) have not stood the test of time.
I'd still pick a TVR over it though!
996 turbo is a great drive but you have to get past the fried egg headlamps which (for me) have not stood the test of time.
I'd still pick a TVR over it though!
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