What to replace a TVR Chimaera 500 with?
Discussion
rockits said:
It seems like the buyer didn't go through with the deal I am guessing. I don't know the details to be honest.
I was offered the car and worked a deal with the seller so that is all I know. I guess maybe this one was meant to be where others weren't.
So do you have to pay the auction site or is it down to the winning bidder?I was offered the car and worked a deal with the seller so that is all I know. I guess maybe this one was meant to be where others weren't.
They had a nice 2003 Tuscan on Collecting Cars but it didn't sell; I think it reached over £20k but not the reserve. They scrub the bid history so you don't know what it reached.
The cars are also hard to find if they don't sell it seems. I found it by searching on google but they don't have a menu listing for 'unsold.'
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2003-tvr-tusca...
Branching out into Australian listings too....
The cars are also hard to find if they don't sell it seems. I found it by searching on google but they don't have a menu listing for 'unsold.'
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2003-tvr-tusca...
Branching out into Australian listings too....
phazed said:
TV8 said:
So do you have to pay the auction site or is it down to the winning bidder?
Got your eye on something Graham? I think the car purchased here was sold through an auction site that isn’t eBay and there are two that look the same but one charges the seller and one charges the buyer and wondered what happens when the purchase falls through.
I think I’d rather buy private if at the end of the day you have no warrantee from this type of auction. Both the owner and selling company can just walk away by the looks of it as it’s your responsibility to get the car checked out before hand as it’s an auction or do I mis understand this?
Happy to be corrected.
If a warrantee is usually worth 2k on the selling price, I’ll correct that, offering a warrantee through selling via dealer costs the seller 2k, adds a bit to the selling price but does offer prospective buyers some security against buying a pup.
Obviously the top end highly sorted cars incl warrantee from a respected dealer are at a premium and for a Chim probably around the 25-27k mark but that will have perfect interiors etc, never seen rain type stuff!
So I’d be looking to reduce anything bought at auction by at least 2k as some insurance against faults occurring in the first 6 months if indeed it does not come with some form of warrantee.
It’s great you have got this car though Dean, bang on
Now open the bonnet and take some proper pictures and now let’s see the chassis lol. M8 you know if you do it’s critical acclaim we are going to lavish the beast. Not many Tvr around like this fecker.
On another positive note on a personal level, I should be rebuilding mine with garage and ramp time towards the end of January so a few meets have just got to happen next year surely
The way I look at cars like this one specifically is the supercharger is but one aspect, if this car is a keeper and needed new riggers a couple of years down the line, that steering wheel probably cost the same as one side rigger completed
so you have bought into a tonne of improvements 10 years ago people did at huge expense for fun and to make a better car so the odd fault that needs fixing is ok because you know full well it cost 30k to keep a car like this looking this good and now operating on such a performance level.
Be interesting how you get on with it as many of us want lots of power but rarely have the gonads to do it or live with it.
What tyres has it got and check the age. I’d change em if in doubt. I don’t think I’d be happy using anything but top end grip tyres that are new and getting used.
Awesome
In fact my first test of this car would be to drive it upto temp then stop, if you have good heat in the tyres your half way there, if not they are not reacting, wrong tyres so that is my focus and always has been on a light car with lots of power. I ignored this rule of thumb for years on my Chim and drove around in a death trap.
I think those tyres should be great but don’t rely on chance. You want to feel warmth in the tyres and it wants to start happening very soon after setting off.
This is a very serious car at the end of the day. Setting tyre pressures wrong can see a winning drivers car slither back down the order it’s so critical and something drivers and mechanics toy over for hours at times. Focus on your tyres and make sure this car switches on which by the look of it I have no doubt it will. Should be utterly brilliant to drive really and I’m sure hsving had a number of top cars your on it.
Anyway it’s great news I think
Respect mister
Happy to be corrected.
If a warrantee is usually worth 2k on the selling price, I’ll correct that, offering a warrantee through selling via dealer costs the seller 2k, adds a bit to the selling price but does offer prospective buyers some security against buying a pup.
Obviously the top end highly sorted cars incl warrantee from a respected dealer are at a premium and for a Chim probably around the 25-27k mark but that will have perfect interiors etc, never seen rain type stuff!
So I’d be looking to reduce anything bought at auction by at least 2k as some insurance against faults occurring in the first 6 months if indeed it does not come with some form of warrantee.
It’s great you have got this car though Dean, bang on
Now open the bonnet and take some proper pictures and now let’s see the chassis lol. M8 you know if you do it’s critical acclaim we are going to lavish the beast. Not many Tvr around like this fecker.
On another positive note on a personal level, I should be rebuilding mine with garage and ramp time towards the end of January so a few meets have just got to happen next year surely
The way I look at cars like this one specifically is the supercharger is but one aspect, if this car is a keeper and needed new riggers a couple of years down the line, that steering wheel probably cost the same as one side rigger completed
so you have bought into a tonne of improvements 10 years ago people did at huge expense for fun and to make a better car so the odd fault that needs fixing is ok because you know full well it cost 30k to keep a car like this looking this good and now operating on such a performance level. Be interesting how you get on with it as many of us want lots of power but rarely have the gonads to do it or live with it.
What tyres has it got and check the age. I’d change em if in doubt. I don’t think I’d be happy using anything but top end grip tyres that are new and getting used.
Awesome
In fact my first test of this car would be to drive it upto temp then stop, if you have good heat in the tyres your half way there, if not they are not reacting, wrong tyres so that is my focus and always has been on a light car with lots of power. I ignored this rule of thumb for years on my Chim and drove around in a death trap.
I think those tyres should be great but don’t rely on chance. You want to feel warmth in the tyres and it wants to start happening very soon after setting off.
This is a very serious car at the end of the day. Setting tyre pressures wrong can see a winning drivers car slither back down the order it’s so critical and something drivers and mechanics toy over for hours at times. Focus on your tyres and make sure this car switches on which by the look of it I have no doubt it will. Should be utterly brilliant to drive really and I’m sure hsving had a number of top cars your on it.
Anyway it’s great news I think
Respect mister
Edited by Classic Chim on Tuesday 29th December 10:23
Classic Chim said:
It’s great you have got this car though Dean, bang on
Now open the bonnet and take some proper pictures and now let’s see the chassis lol. M8 you know if you do it’s critical acclaim we are going to lavish the beast. Not many Tvr around like this fecker.
On another positive note on a personal level, I should be rebuilding mine with garage and ramp time towards the end of January so a few meets have just got to happen next year surely
The way I look at cars like this one specifically is the supercharger is but one aspect, if this car is a keeper and needed new riggers a couple of years down the line, that steering wheel probably cost the same as one side rigger completed so you have bought into a tonne of improvements 10 years ago people did at huge expense for fun and to make a better car so the odd fault that needs fixing is ok because you know full well it cost 30k to keep a car like this looking this good and now operating on such a performance level.
Be interesting how you get on with it as many of us want lots of power but rarely have the gonads to do it or live with it.
What tyres has it got and check the age. I’d change em if in doubt. I don’t think I’d be happy using anything but top end grip tyres that are new and getting used.
Awesome
In fact my first test of this car would be to drive it upto temp then stop, if you have good heat in the tyres your half way there, if not they are not reacting, wrong tyres so that is my focus and always has been on a light car with lots of power. I ignored this rule of thumb for years on my Chim and drove around in a death trap.
I think those tyres should be great but don’t rely on chance. You want to feel warmth in the tyres and it wants to start happening very soon after setting off.
This is a very serious car at the end of the day. Setting tyre pressures wrong can see a winning drivers car slither back down the order it’s so critical and something drivers and mechanics toy over for hours at times. Focus on your tyres and make sure this car switches on which by the look of it I have no doubt it will. Should be utterly brilliant to drive really and I’m sure hsving had a number of top cars your on it.
Anyway it’s great news I think
Respect mister
Thanks Alun.....it has been a long patient journey to get to this point but I'm happy now with the car/colour and all about it. The tyres are in good condition and not old or cracked. It has been stored well when not used which is good. The chassis and outriggers look goo but I won't know for sure until I get it in the air and have a good look around. It certainly looks good on initial inspection but we all know this is no guarantee.Now open the bonnet and take some proper pictures and now let’s see the chassis lol. M8 you know if you do it’s critical acclaim we are going to lavish the beast. Not many Tvr around like this fecker.
On another positive note on a personal level, I should be rebuilding mine with garage and ramp time towards the end of January so a few meets have just got to happen next year surely
The way I look at cars like this one specifically is the supercharger is but one aspect, if this car is a keeper and needed new riggers a couple of years down the line, that steering wheel probably cost the same as one side rigger completed
so you have bought into a tonne of improvements 10 years ago people did at huge expense for fun and to make a better car so the odd fault that needs fixing is ok because you know full well it cost 30k to keep a car like this looking this good and now operating on such a performance level. Be interesting how you get on with it as many of us want lots of power but rarely have the gonads to do it or live with it.
What tyres has it got and check the age. I’d change em if in doubt. I don’t think I’d be happy using anything but top end grip tyres that are new and getting used.
Awesome
In fact my first test of this car would be to drive it upto temp then stop, if you have good heat in the tyres your half way there, if not they are not reacting, wrong tyres so that is my focus and always has been on a light car with lots of power. I ignored this rule of thumb for years on my Chim and drove around in a death trap.
I think those tyres should be great but don’t rely on chance. You want to feel warmth in the tyres and it wants to start happening very soon after setting off.
This is a very serious car at the end of the day. Setting tyre pressures wrong can see a winning drivers car slither back down the order it’s so critical and something drivers and mechanics toy over for hours at times. Focus on your tyres and make sure this car switches on which by the look of it I have no doubt it will. Should be utterly brilliant to drive really and I’m sure hsving had a number of top cars your on it.
Anyway it’s great news I think
Respect mister
Edited by Classic Chim on Tuesday 29th December 10:23
I will try to do some further driver tuition/training days @ North Weald this year if permitted. It is a great chance to explore and get to know the car in reasonable safety. The trainer always like to give it a good go as well so always good to see what a real proper driver thinks.
It will need much respect of course with 490bhp at the wheels!
Hopefully some meets can be done next year as well so all for meeting up with any body privately or at any events. I am Bell Bar, Hertfordshire.
Hope your rebuild work goes well and it isn't too cold! I was working outside yesterday and it was chuffing freezing!!
rockits said:
Thanks Alun.....it has been a long patient journey to get to this point but I'm happy now with the car/colour and all about it. The tyres are in good condition and not old or cracked. It has been stored well when not used which is good. The chassis and outriggers look goo but I won't know for sure until I get it in the air and have a good look around. It certainly looks good on initial inspection but we all know this is no guarantee.
I will try to do some further driver tuition/training days @ North Weald this year if permitted. It is a great chance to explore and get to know the car in reasonable safety. The trainer always like to give it a good go as well so always good to see what a real proper driver thinks.
It will need much respect of course with 490bhp at the wheels!
Hopefully some meets can be done next year as well so all for meeting up with any body privately or at any events. I am Bell Bar, Hertfordshire.
Hope your rebuild work goes well and it isn't too cold! I was working outside yesterday and it was chuffing freezing!!
From my experience it’s a long journey to get any Tvr to work spot on so the fact you are getting there is progress and with that car a lot of it lol. I will try to do some further driver tuition/training days @ North Weald this year if permitted. It is a great chance to explore and get to know the car in reasonable safety. The trainer always like to give it a good go as well so always good to see what a real proper driver thinks.
It will need much respect of course with 490bhp at the wheels!
Hopefully some meets can be done next year as well so all for meeting up with any body privately or at any events. I am Bell Bar, Hertfordshire.
Hope your rebuild work goes well and it isn't too cold! I was working outside yesterday and it was chuffing freezing!!
North Weald have some great driving days so that’s perfect.
Best money or time you will ever spend when it comes to being in charge of this car when it’s under power is a place you can happily spin without striking anything.
You can learn more in one day than you will a lifetime of road driving at places like Weald if you have a savvi instructor.
phazed said:
Did a driver day at North Wield soon after getting my 5.5.
Best part, the sprint course they laid out on the biggest stretch of tarmac you’ve ever seen
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A must do.........!
You went well that day I seem to recall. Best part, the sprint course they laid out on the biggest stretch of tarmac you’ve ever seen
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A must do.........!
Yeah there’s nothing like a wide open bit of flat ground where you can get it all wrong and still come out roses the other side.
Nothings without risk but it’s better than a track day if your actually learning about a weapon like this car as you generally have a few cones to hit rather than a metal barrier.
It just gives you the opportunity to take some liberties ( all in the name of science) which you sort of have to do, you have to find out where that throttle will overcome the grip from a slow speed corner to some 4th gear flat out ball breaker of a bend. The handling etc. I’d hit 120 -130 mph and stop as fast as I could then mentally record the huge distance it took to,stop!
You can improve every aspect and the brakes are one of them but even they have there limits.
Cars like these you accelerate like hell for a few seconds then spend all day trying to slow down
Classic Chim said:
You went well that day I seem to recall.
It just goes to show how good these cars can be if set up correctly. Second fastest lap all day behind a Nissan GTR, (about 30 cars participating , the majority TVRs).Back on topic, imagine being able to drive absolutely flat out round a small circuit of cones, Be able to brake as late as you like, turn in as quick as you like and flatten the accelerator pedal on the way out with the tail of the car fishtailing as you head for the next bend. All this without any fear of crashing as the tarmac the course is set out on is absolutely monstrous! People were sliding sideways at great speed and coming away laughing. This is the sort of experience you need to have when the car breaks away and the sort of distances they can realistically stop in without putting anyone's life in danger.
Book it up when you can Dean, you will really enjoy it!
phazed said:
It just goes to show how good these cars can be if set up correctly. Second fastest lap all day behind a Nissan GTR, (about 30 cars participating , the majority TVRs).
Back on topic, imagine being able to drive absolutely flat out round a small circuit of cones, Be able to brake as late as you like, turn in as quick as you like and flatten the accelerator pedal on the way out with the tail of the car fishtailing as you head for the next bend. All this without any fear of crashing as the tarmac the course is set out on is absolutely monstrous! People were sliding sideways at great speed and coming away laughing. This is the sort of experience you need to have when the car breaks away and the sort of distances they can realistically stop in without putting anyone's life in danger.
Book it up when you can Dean, you will really enjoy it!
It seems distant memories a bunch of Tvr nuts attending a track course of some description. Back on topic, imagine being able to drive absolutely flat out round a small circuit of cones, Be able to brake as late as you like, turn in as quick as you like and flatten the accelerator pedal on the way out with the tail of the car fishtailing as you head for the next bend. All this without any fear of crashing as the tarmac the course is set out on is absolutely monstrous! People were sliding sideways at great speed and coming away laughing. This is the sort of experience you need to have when the car breaks away and the sort of distances they can realistically stop in without putting anyone's life in danger.
Book it up when you can Dean, you will really enjoy it!
Marham Airfield was my greatest memory, really hot day, intense conditions, a massive place and what felt like miles of run off, red rag to a bull
I forced a Suburu off the road or he panicked because he couldn’t shake me off through the really exciting twisties and spun right in front of me. Some really challenging sections and the Chim was right up there through those bits not one modern motor incl BMW Audi got a yard on me through those bits which was fabulous though my brakes where rubbish back then. It’s like a full test day in a way. You can get on top of the car 5 trackdays might not achieve.
Airfields are the best places to learn and try to crash ( over drive) if you ask me
There is a good reason to overdrive and provoke the cars reactions, I remember asking a rider how to turn a grasstrack bike with a lot of power, his answer was turn left and whack the throttle wide open and don’t let go
How can you learn to slide or control a slide if you never get sliding!
Same with brakes, it’s only practice can you maximise braking without drama and it can only be done by testing them until they do lock up or how will you ever know where there limit is.
Rule of thumb sort of stuff.
Mostly it teaches you how to get out the s
t once your in it. I learnt through carts so similar as in raw abandon and crashing cost little. It served me well in the Tvr because I already understood the nervous nature and how small driver inputs make a big difference. Big go carts really and at places like Weald with 500hp on tap you can really find out.
Thanks Peter & Alun. Much appreciated.
I have done a day at North Weald before in my 2nd Chimaera 400 and really enjoyed it. Also got to know the car so much more. The biggest thing that surprised me the most is how much the braking improvements were. Obviously in a car with no aids it is much more driver dependent. I think on the brake test after 5 or 6 goes I had reduced my 60mph to zero stopping distance by I think it was 11 car space widths or about 70ft!! The first one was clearly not great.
Once understanding a small roll of the ball style motion was enough to stop the lock up the re-apply the technique clearly makes a massive difference. The 70mph 90 degree turn using one finger starting at 12 o'clock was fun too.
The kind of auto test round the cones was brilliant fun and the perfect car. Light on brakes and tyres too! The other 3 cars I went on the day with from the Sports Maserati forum was an Aston Vantage V12 S and 2 x Maserati Gransport's. One each had issues as don't like being given the same treatment you could dish out to the TVR. One Gransport de-laminated its tyres and the Vantage had a gearbox/clutch fault. Needed a new clutch a short while after that day! Not sure it liked spinning around much!
I learnt a great deal that day and will do at least one in the new car hopefully more if I can. It was a great fun and useful way to spend a day and not expensive at £125 I thought from memory.
The sync'ing steering hand to eye coordination was new to me as well. So to look where you are steering. Clearly experienced people know but I've only done maybe a dozen track days ever so still pretty green.
The 400 was all the car you needed but I'm sure a supercharged 450 will add a little more spice
I have done a day at North Weald before in my 2nd Chimaera 400 and really enjoyed it. Also got to know the car so much more. The biggest thing that surprised me the most is how much the braking improvements were. Obviously in a car with no aids it is much more driver dependent. I think on the brake test after 5 or 6 goes I had reduced my 60mph to zero stopping distance by I think it was 11 car space widths or about 70ft!! The first one was clearly not great.
Once understanding a small roll of the ball style motion was enough to stop the lock up the re-apply the technique clearly makes a massive difference. The 70mph 90 degree turn using one finger starting at 12 o'clock was fun too.
The kind of auto test round the cones was brilliant fun and the perfect car. Light on brakes and tyres too! The other 3 cars I went on the day with from the Sports Maserati forum was an Aston Vantage V12 S and 2 x Maserati Gransport's. One each had issues as don't like being given the same treatment you could dish out to the TVR. One Gransport de-laminated its tyres and the Vantage had a gearbox/clutch fault. Needed a new clutch a short while after that day! Not sure it liked spinning around much!
I learnt a great deal that day and will do at least one in the new car hopefully more if I can. It was a great fun and useful way to spend a day and not expensive at £125 I thought from memory.
The sync'ing steering hand to eye coordination was new to me as well. So to look where you are steering. Clearly experienced people know but I've only done maybe a dozen track days ever so still pretty green.
The 400 was all the car you needed but I'm sure a supercharged 450 will add a little more spice
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