New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 2)
Discussion
My source from last time has leaked what he says is the new update to me. Make your own minds up;
Top Secret Update said:
TOP SECRET. FOR DEPOSITEERS EYES ONLY!!
Dear Depositeer
First some housekeeping. The magnificent seven are now known as the famous five and boy do we love you guys! Your resilience and indefatigability personify all that is good about our brand! Once again I must ask that you do not share the contents of this update online. Dickie has had a relapse since I last wrote and the doc says it was caused by seeing the whole whirlybird episode being regurgitated again. He's vulnerable guys so lets keep this offline!
There's no easy way to say this, Jones has let us down. So has his oppo, Jones. The whole thing is a debacle. We thought they were locked in but apparently Emlyn Rees made them an offer to build a conservatory on his bungalow in Merthyr that they couldn't refuse and that was that. We didn't see them for dust. But all is not lost. Major Llewelyn Jones from the club has a chum called Parry - Jones who knows some chaps who he promises are top drawer and we're meeting them pronto. Onwards and upwards!
Now, the fundraising suggestion we put forward on the last missive has not been a great success. Several depositeers got confused about their upline and downline and to cut a long story short the results were less than desirable. A friend suggested that we talk to a chap called Guzman stateside but it seems he's a little indisposed at present (but not for long he assures us!). All is not lost as he's put us in touch with a chap called Zambada who is "minding the store" (his words not mine!) and we're sending Dickie down to Mexico to see him next week. We figure a nice relaxing break in Sinaloa (wherever that is!) is just the ticket to aid his recuperation!
So while it may seem that nothing is happening on the surface, below the waterline it's a frenzy!
I'll be in touch when Dickie gets back and we've got together with Parry-Jones's chaps!
Yours in sport.
L
Dear Depositeer
First some housekeeping. The magnificent seven are now known as the famous five and boy do we love you guys! Your resilience and indefatigability personify all that is good about our brand! Once again I must ask that you do not share the contents of this update online. Dickie has had a relapse since I last wrote and the doc says it was caused by seeing the whole whirlybird episode being regurgitated again. He's vulnerable guys so lets keep this offline!
There's no easy way to say this, Jones has let us down. So has his oppo, Jones. The whole thing is a debacle. We thought they were locked in but apparently Emlyn Rees made them an offer to build a conservatory on his bungalow in Merthyr that they couldn't refuse and that was that. We didn't see them for dust. But all is not lost. Major Llewelyn Jones from the club has a chum called Parry - Jones who knows some chaps who he promises are top drawer and we're meeting them pronto. Onwards and upwards!
Now, the fundraising suggestion we put forward on the last missive has not been a great success. Several depositeers got confused about their upline and downline and to cut a long story short the results were less than desirable. A friend suggested that we talk to a chap called Guzman stateside but it seems he's a little indisposed at present (but not for long he assures us!). All is not lost as he's put us in touch with a chap called Zambada who is "minding the store" (his words not mine!) and we're sending Dickie down to Mexico to see him next week. We figure a nice relaxing break in Sinaloa (wherever that is!) is just the ticket to aid his recuperation!
So while it may seem that nothing is happening on the surface, below the waterline it's a frenzy!
I'll be in touch when Dickie gets back and we've got together with Parry-Jones's chaps!
Yours in sport.
L
I don't understand the logic of sending out updates (if they are) that must be kept secret. It's so childish if true.
If this is truly their business plan, then the senior management at Newco have lost it. How are they seriously expecting to encourage more deposit contributions? Or are they treating the remaining deposit holders with such contempt whilst Rome is burning?
I don't get it. Glad I have no financial interest tied up in Newco. I'd be trying my best to extricate my liabilities for sure by now.
If this is truly their business plan, then the senior management at Newco have lost it. How are they seriously expecting to encourage more deposit contributions? Or are they treating the remaining deposit holders with such contempt whilst Rome is burning?
I don't get it. Glad I have no financial interest tied up in Newco. I'd be trying my best to extricate my liabilities for sure by now.
unrepentant said:
My source from last time has leaked what he says is the new update to me. Make your own minds up;
This is (almost) believable - the exclamation marks nearly convinced me it was penned by LE! Top Secret Update said:
TOP SECRET. FOR DEPOSITEERS EYES ONLY!!
Dear Depositeer
First some housekeeping. The magnificent seven are now known as the famous five and boy do we love you guys! Your resilience and indefatigability personify all that is good about our brand! Once again I must ask that you do not share the contents of this update online. Dickie has had a relapse since I last wrote and the doc says it was caused by seeing the whole whirlybird episode being regurgitated again. He's vulnerable guys so lets keep this offline!
There's no easy way to say this, Jones has let us down. So has his oppo, Jones. The whole thing is a debacle. We thought they were locked in but apparently Emlyn Rees made them an offer to build a conservatory on his bungalow in Merthyr that they couldn't refuse and that was that. We didn't see them for dust. But all is not lost. Major Llewelyn Jones from the club has a chum called Parry - Jones who knows some chaps who he promises are top drawer and we're meeting them pronto. Onwards and upwards!
Now, the fundraising suggestion we put forward on the last missive has not been a great success. Several depositeers got confused about their upline and downline and to cut a long story short the results were less than desirable. A friend suggested that we talk to a chap called Guzman stateside but it seems he's a little indisposed at present (but not for long he assures us!). All is not lost as he's put us in touch with a chap called Zambada who is "minding the store" (his words not mine!) and we're sending Dickie down to Mexico to see him next week. We figure a nice relaxing break in Sinaloa (wherever that is!) is just the ticket to aid his recuperation!
So while it may seem that nothing is happening on the surface, below the waterline it's a frenzy!
I'll be in touch when Dickie gets back and we've got together with Parry-Jones's chaps!
Yours in sport.
L
Dear Depositeer
First some housekeeping. The magnificent seven are now known as the famous five and boy do we love you guys! Your resilience and indefatigability personify all that is good about our brand! Once again I must ask that you do not share the contents of this update online. Dickie has had a relapse since I last wrote and the doc says it was caused by seeing the whole whirlybird episode being regurgitated again. He's vulnerable guys so lets keep this offline!
There's no easy way to say this, Jones has let us down. So has his oppo, Jones. The whole thing is a debacle. We thought they were locked in but apparently Emlyn Rees made them an offer to build a conservatory on his bungalow in Merthyr that they couldn't refuse and that was that. We didn't see them for dust. But all is not lost. Major Llewelyn Jones from the club has a chum called Parry - Jones who knows some chaps who he promises are top drawer and we're meeting them pronto. Onwards and upwards!
Now, the fundraising suggestion we put forward on the last missive has not been a great success. Several depositeers got confused about their upline and downline and to cut a long story short the results were less than desirable. A friend suggested that we talk to a chap called Guzman stateside but it seems he's a little indisposed at present (but not for long he assures us!). All is not lost as he's put us in touch with a chap called Zambada who is "minding the store" (his words not mine!) and we're sending Dickie down to Mexico to see him next week. We figure a nice relaxing break in Sinaloa (wherever that is!) is just the ticket to aid his recuperation!
So while it may seem that nothing is happening on the surface, below the waterline it's a frenzy!
I'll be in touch when Dickie gets back and we've got together with Parry-Jones's chaps!
Yours in sport.
L
Tyre Smoke said:
I don't understand the logic of sending out updates (if they are) that must be kept secret. It's so childish if true.
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It's a lot easier to keep the con alive if there aren't people on the outside looking in pointing out its a con..
I want TVR to succeed but in my heart of hearts I can't believe they will.
Don't beat yourself up Pushfit, we are all TVR enthusiasts but the truth is, beyond a few stickers on a Rebellion, nothing else is going to happen.
I feel sorry for the continuing deposit holders, not because I think they are stupid, but because they are going to be bitterly disappointed. But there's none so blind as those that won't see.
I really hope I'm wrong.
I feel sorry for the continuing deposit holders, not because I think they are stupid, but because they are going to be bitterly disappointed. But there's none so blind as those that won't see.
I really hope I'm wrong.
I started off one of their biggest advocates and full of optimism. But I love the TVR brand, I want them to stop this farce before any more goodwill towards the brand is lost. Even if they managed to get the Griff in production (which I severely doubt) they've demonstrated that they will be unable to respond to engineering challenges/changes, warranty issues and new or updated models in a timely fashion.
Quite simply. They had the opportunity on a plate. With all the deposits and possibilities. Access to TVR's back catalogue.... It was an open goal.
They've blown it.
Quite simply. They had the opportunity on a plate. With all the deposits and possibilities. Access to TVR's back catalogue.... It was an open goal.
They've blown it.
I presume those who placed deposits did so, to be early amongst the queue of buyers.
If you think the deposit money could be at risk, probably wise now to seek return.
Should the resurrected TVR dream eventually become reality, then there is unlikely to be a long waiting list, so then just buy the car you want.
Simple logic, after such a strange and secretive business situation.
Are they still accepting deposits? Theoretically they would be if they think it’s going to happen, but if that’s the case there would be more PR - which there isn’t.
In other words they seem to currently be only paying lip service to existing deposit holders and not going beyond that to seek any new deposits, the PR and marketing having effectively ended.
In other words they seem to currently be only paying lip service to existing deposit holders and not going beyond that to seek any new deposits, the PR and marketing having effectively ended.
V6 Pushfit said:
Are they still accepting deposits? Theoretically they would be if they think it’s going to happen, but if that’s the case there would be more PR - which there isn’t.
In other words they seem to currently be only paying lip service to existing deposit holders and not going beyond that to seek any new deposits, the PR and marketing having effectively ended.
The website still says accepting deposits.In other words they seem to currently be only paying lip service to existing deposit holders and not going beyond that to seek any new deposits, the PR and marketing having effectively ended.
Aside from the Rebellion WEC team there is zero marketing going on. And I suspect Rebellion only have the logo on because it was paid for ages ago.
If anything was imminent then marketing would be in full swing. Let's face it, this has been dragging on so long and they haven't even started to build the factory (save for identifying a potential site) let alone a car. The costs involved from here alone are going to be eye watering. And now the Freemasons updates make a bad situation into a horrible nightmare. If I still had money in, I'd be pulling it and just buying the car when it's produced. If Newco were being open and honest, which they would be if it was all going well, there wouldn't be any issues.
If anything was imminent then marketing would be in full swing. Let's face it, this has been dragging on so long and they haven't even started to build the factory (save for identifying a potential site) let alone a car. The costs involved from here alone are going to be eye watering. And now the Freemasons updates make a bad situation into a horrible nightmare. If I still had money in, I'd be pulling it and just buying the car when it's produced. If Newco were being open and honest, which they would be if it was all going well, there wouldn't be any issues.
I agree. I didn't mean to infer any sort of dishonesty. Just dreadful PR.
Anyway, if I were in the market for a new TVR..
http://www.grexautomotive.com/the-kit
Anyway, if I were in the market for a new TVR..
http://www.grexautomotive.com/the-kit
Rebellion and Peugeot are tying up to produce the new hypercar for 2021. For some reason the FIA/Wec have decided that all hypercars must be 'factory' rather than privateer entry like ByKolles and Rebellion are now. Guess that is a good way around the rules for both Peugeot and Rebellion. Peugeot with the factory, Rebellion with a ready made team.
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