New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)

[Byker28i]

Classic Chim said:

Gazzab said:

If TVR made something as exciting as this is I’d flash the cash.
https://twitter.com/carpervert/status/154797068106...

Reminds me of a Renault Alpine A610

side profile is the bd son of a Delorean - it's horrible

[Jon39]

Tyre Tread said:

In other news I'm surprised the Autocar article hasn't been mentioned yet: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/tvr-re...

And go...

I think I have read that fiction before.
Has Autocar just reprinted a previous article ?

These are the 'standouts' from the article;

'TVR plans to employ 200 people at the factory and says, “significant progress” has been made.
Autocar has learned TVR anticipates signing a lease deal in the coming weeks, now that the shell of the building is ready for the installation of tooling and equipment.

'The latest records show that TVR finished the financial year ending June 2021 with £8000 in cash (down from £32,000 in 2020)
and £12.1 million of liabilities and borrowings payable within 12 months (up from £10.8 million in 2020).'

If their cash continued reducing at the same rate, that might now indicate an £16,000 overdraft.
Together with the liabilities and borrowings, it hardly seems an ideal position to start any cash hungry car manufacturing business.

[Mastiff]

Byker28i said:

side profile is the bd son of a Delorean - it's horrible

Pantera?

Edited by Mastiff on Monday 18th July 14:18

[Viper201]

Jon39 said:

Tyre Tread said:

In other news I'm surprised the Autocar article hasn't been mentioned yet: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/tvr-re...

And go...

I think I have read that fiction before.
Has Autocar just reprinted a previous article ?

These are the 'standouts' from the article;

'TVR plans to employ 200 people at the factory and says, “significant progress” has been made.
Autocar has learned TVR anticipates signing a lease deal in the coming weeks, now that the shell of the building is ready for the installation of tooling and equipment.

'The latest records show that TVR finished the financial year ending June 2021 with £8000 in cash (down from £32,000 in 2020)
and £12.1 million of liabilities and borrowings payable within 12 months (up from £10.8 million in 2020).'

If their cash continued reducing at the same rate, that might now indicate an £16,000 overdraft.
Together with the liabilities and borrowings, it hardly seems an ideal position to start any cash hungry car manufacturing business.

Same old same old. More empty promises from TVR but not surprising given their track record.

And Autocar, if you read this, the delays were not caused by the factory tendering process. Read the Senedd's pages from the Welsh Ministers who clearly made it known that until TVR had sufficient FUNDING, they would not occupy the factory. The 'delay' gave TVR more time to raise the funding but we know that did not happen. Assuming Ensorcia throw millions into the pot, this is the only way this project can possibly hope to continue.

This article is not surprising since Edgar lambasted Autocar (incorrectly as it has since turned out) in one of those rare TVR events, an UPDATE on the TVRCC News pages, and Steve Cropley was gushing with praise (after spending a day at TVR "head office" in Surrey) in his last article where he is pictured with Edgar, Berriman and Chasey (think it was him). Until then the Autocar articles had been written by another writer who printed the truth but left the magazine shortly afterwards.

[rev-erend]

LucyP said:

rev-erend said:

Serious question.

When a car company dies, does it still get posted in the obituary section of the Times

I do wish them luck but this still does not sound great.

It's the London Gazette. Bit of a a dry read. It's where all legal and company matters are detailed. Lists of companies that are insolvent; struck off; notices for creditors to come forward with their claims over dead people's estates and such like.

A notice in there is deemed to be an notice to the whole world even though no one ever reads it!

Thanks.

[Jon39]

rev-erend said:

LucyP said:

rev-erend said:

Serious question.

When a car company dies, does it still get posted in the obituary section of the Times

I do wish them luck but this still does not sound great.

It's the London Gazette. Bit of a a dry read. It's where all legal and company matters are detailed. Lists of companies that are insolvent; struck off; notices for creditors to come forward with their claims over dead people's estates and such like.

A notice in there is deemed to be an notice to the whole world even though no one ever reads it!

Thanks.

There have been some TVR notices published in the London Gazette, during recent years.
If there are any PHers who are really bored, then here is the list.

[rev-erend]

LucyP said:

rev-erend said:

Serious question.

When a car company dies, does it still get posted in the obituary section of the Times

I do wish them luck but this still does not sound great.

It's the London Gazette. Bit of a a dry read. It's where all legal and company matters are detailed. Lists of companies that are insolvent; struck off; notices for creditors to come forward with their claims over dead people's estates and such like.

A notice in there is deemed to be an notice to the whole world even though no one ever reads it!

Petitions to Wind Up (Companies)

In the High Court of Justice (Chancery Division)

Companies Court No 011177 of 2018

In the Matter of TVR GROUP LTD

(Company Number 10491039)

and in the Matter of the Insolvency Act 1986

A Petition to wind up the above-named Company, Registration Number 10491039, of ,3 Cabourn House, Station Street, Bingham, Nottingham, United Kingdom, NG13 8AQ, presented on 24 December 2018 by the COMMISSIONERS FOR HM REVENUE AND CUSTOMS, of South West Wing, Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4RD,, claiming to be Creditors of the Company, will be heard at the High Court, Royal Courts of Justice, 7 Rolls Building, Fetter Lane, London, EC4A 1NL on 13 February 2019 at 1030 hours (or as soon thereafter as the Petition can be heard).

Any persons intending to appear on the hearing of the Petition (whether to support or oppose it) must give notice of intention to do so to the Petitioners or to their Solicitor in accordance with Rule 7.14 by 1600 hours on 12 February 2019 .

The Petitioners` Solicitor is the Solicitor to, HM Revenue and Customs,Solicitor's Office & Legal Services, South West Wing, Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4RD, telephone [phone] . (Ref SLR1978470/N.)

1 February 2019



  

[phazed]

Meaning?

[Viper201]

????? TVR Group is some sort of one man band building consultancy that's gone kaput.

Nothing to see here.

[Tyre Smoke]

In other news, I drove the Chimaera home from work yesterday late at night. Roof off, windows down. Lovely!

Wife tells me I have a dim sidelight. They're LED so was a bit confused. Anyway, decided to investigate and it was a poor earth. In my WD40 induced pleasure (!) I managed to drop the bastid bulb into the wing. I had to wait for the wife to come home to get her hand in to retrieve it. As soon as she did I managed to drop the bleddy thing again. Third time I got it all back together and happily working.

[Polly Grigora]

glow worm said:

Son of Audrey



And his demise

Did you happen to archive all technical data before the execution?

Diameter is what I'm interested in

TIA

[Polly Grigora]

Viper201 said:

Polly Grigora said:

May I suggest that from now on you call the idiot a Maláka rather than a wker, if by chance the idiot knows the meaning which is extremely doubtful and the police are called, tell the police that the idiot must have misheard you when you shouted for someone to play your favourite song by Boney M - Malaika


This image might help give you some ideas, does the doll look similar to the nipper?

Malaka is very appropriate. He used to stand in the kitchen window around 5pm in just his boxers when our daughter would stop in front of his house before reversing on to the driveway after work.

Actually the doll resembles him quite closely.

Any joy?

[m4tti]

In to H2 of another year… any sign of a car.

[P. ONeill]

Mastiff said:

Byker28i said:

side profile is the bd son of a Delorean - it's horrible

Pantera?

Edited by Mastiff on Monday 18th July 14:18

I really, really like that. Very retro.

As for the TVR, we’ll never see it.

[Viper201]

Polly Grigora said:

Viper201 said:

Polly Grigora said:

May I suggest that from now on you call the idiot a Maláka rather than a wker, if by chance the idiot knows the meaning which is extremely doubtful and the police are called, tell the police that the idiot must have misheard you when you shouted for someone to play your favourite song by Boney M - Malaika


This image might help give you some ideas, does the doll look similar to the nipper?

Malaka is very appropriate. He used to stand in the kitchen window around 5pm in just his boxers when our daughter would stop in front of his house before reversing on to the driveway after work.

Actually the doll resembles him quite closely.

Any joy?

Unfortunately no. It has all escalated. He called the police after threatening me! They attended and then advised I call 101 and get a crime number after watching my CCTV of the incident. I refused as for the last 5 years the police have been less than interested. So they took it upon themselves and gave me a crime number.

The next day he came home pissed up and started shouting about. His wife went across the road to thank a neighbour while they were on holiday and he really went for it. I was called an evil bd, a , an ahole and he came outside to the front of my house where he skipped up and down the road like a 3 year old shouting "I like a little dance now and again". Not getting any reaction from us he went inside and turned the radio up nice and loud and continued to shout over and over above the music, "them conifers are fking coming down with a vengeance". He said this about 6 times. He's referring to a row of conifers that are actually dead but covered in ivy which are just on his side of the front boundary and form a hedge about 6 feet high. Then he will be able to watch me which I'm sure is what he wants.

Then he repeated over and over "cameras are going up" and true to his word he has installed on Sunday a single camera, solar powered with built in microphone. He can now listen to us on his phone which does not bother us at all. Most of us have CCTV now as we get prowlers.

Still getting no reaction from us, other than my wife who went into the drive in case he did anything really silly, the rear patio doors were flung open and he shouted at the top of his voice "fat bh". So loud that all the families at the back went silent for a few moments. He had seen her from his side window and had been tapping the glass to get her to look. His wife returned from the neighbour's after 40 mins and instantly he turned off the radio and was quiet as a mouse. I reported this via the online police form and next day gave a statement and got two more crime numbers, one for harassment and one for a public order offence. So a week on and I've not heard anything as yet so he thinks he has got away with it.

Then last night we were sitting out in the back garden and he again opened the patio doors and was once more shouting "fat bh" until his wife told him off saying "he can hear you" (meaning the CCTV). Of course he can't now shout at the front or his own CCTV will record him.

The saga continues......

Edited by Viper201 on Tuesday 19th July 23:41

[ridds]

I'll be honest, absolutely none of the new EV selection out there appeals to me.

• Hyundai - enters the room.....

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/general-pistonhea...



This concept, and I'll be honest, most of their current range really works for me.

Some of the styling is hideously clunky but I hark back to when the Ford Focus was revealed with its "Edge" design languauge. That looked clunky, too radical and I thought Ford had lost the plot. 10 years later and it's now a classic (imho) of daily / shopping, car design that appealed to the masses.

The N Vision 74 has hints of Porsche, Audi Quattro, Deloreon, Retro Gaming, 280Z (rear window slats) Corrado, you could go on for ages. Who'd have thought that the Pony from all those years ago would get reborn like this.

It's bonkers and that's what is great. EVs have so little else to sell themselves they need to grab you're attention with the design.



Even the Ionic 6 (or RN22e bonkers machine) looks like a badly rehashed 2012 Citroën C6 to me at the moment but I'd rather be seen in that, than any of the bland-ass Tesla range.



Which would you chose, an N Vision 74 or a Griffith? in EV form.....

[Byker28i]

Mastiff said:

Byker28i said:

side profile is the bd son of a Delorean - it's horrible

Pantera?

Edited by Mastiff on Monday 18th July 14:18

They had the De Tomaso P72 at Classic Lemans. If they looked like that...beautiful

[anonymous-user]

Viper201 said:

Polly Grigora said:

Viper201 said:

Polly Grigora said:

May I suggest that from now on you call the idiot a Maláka rather than a wker, if by chance the idiot knows the meaning which is extremely doubtful and the police are called, tell the police that the idiot must have misheard you when you shouted for someone to play your favourite song by Boney M - Malaika


This image might help give you some ideas, does the doll look similar to the nipper?

Malaka is very appropriate. He used to stand in the kitchen window around 5pm in just his boxers when our daughter would stop in front of his house before reversing on to the driveway after work.

Actually the doll resembles him quite closely.

Any joy?

Unfortunately no. It has all escalated. He called the police after threatening me! They attended and then advised I call 101 and get a crime number after watching my CCTV of the incident. I refused as for the last 5 years the police have been less than interested. So they took it upon themselves and gave me a crime number.

The next day he came home pissed up and started shouting about. His wife went across the road to thank a neighbour while they were on holiday and he really went for it. I was called an evil bd, a , an ahole and he came outside to the front of my house where he skipped up and down the road like a 3 year old shouting "I like a little dance now and again". Not getting any reaction from us he went inside and turned the radio up nice and loud and continued to shout over and over above the music, "them conifers are fking coming down with a vengeance". He said this about 6 times. He's referring to a row of conifers that are actually dead but covered in ivy which are just on his side of the front boundary and form a hedge about 6 feet high. Then he will be able to watch me which I'm sure is what he wants.

Then he repeated over and over "cameras are going up" and true to his word he has installed on Sunday a single camera, solar powered with built in microphone. He can now listen to us on his phone which does not bother us at all. Most of us have CCTV now as we get prowlers.

Still getting no reaction from us, other than my wife who went into the drive in case he did anything really silly, the rear patio doors were flung open and he shouted at the top of his voice "fat bh". So loud that all the families at the back went silent for a few moments. He had seen her from his side window and had been tapping the glass to get her to look. His wife returned from the neighbour's after 40 mins and instantly he turned off the radio and was quiet as a mouse. I reported this via the online police form and next day gave a statement and got two more crime numbers, one for harassment and one for a public order offence. So a week on and I've not heard anything as yet so he thinks he has got away with it.

Then last night we were sitting out in the back garden and he again opened the patio doors and was once more shouting "fat bh" until his wife told him off saying "he can hear you" (meaning the CCTV). Of course he can't now shout at the front or his own CCTV will record him.

The saga continues......

Edited by Viper201 on Tuesday 19th July 23:41

May I suggest you brief some mates, and generate a scenario where he’s out the front ranting and they arrive? One confronts him and tells him like it is, or something like that - so it’s not coming directly from you?

[Gazzab]

I hate most EVs, especially Tesla’s - horrible styling.
I like most of the Hyundai range. I would take one of the concept Hyundai sports car EVs over a TVR Griffith EV.

[LucyP]

V6 Pushfit said:

May I suggest you brief some mates, and generate a scenario where he’s out the front ranting and they arrive? One confronts him and tells him like it is, or something like that - so it’s not coming directly from you?

Isn't it time to get an injunction, Viper?