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ridds said:
I'll be honest, absolutely none of the new EV selection out there appeals to me.
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/general-pistonhea...
This concept, and I'll be honest, most of their current range really works for me.
Some of the styling is hideously clunky but I hark back to when the Ford Focus was revealed with its "Edge" design languauge. That looked clunky, too radical and I thought Ford had lost the plot. 10 years later and it's now a classic (imho) of daily / shopping, car design that appealed to the masses.
The N Vision 74 has hints of Porsche, Audi Quattro, Deloreon, Retro Gaming, 280Z (rear window slats) Corrado, you could go on for ages. Who'd have thought that the Pony from all those years ago would get reborn like this.
It's bonkers and that's what is great. EVs have so little else to sell themselves they need to grab you're attention with the design.
Even the Ionic 6 (or RN22e bonkers machine) looks like a badly rehashed 2012 Citroën C6 to me at the moment but I'd rather be seen in that, than any of the bland-ass Tesla range.
Which would you chose, an N Vision 74 or a Griffith? in EV form.....
I agree, Hyundai are on a roll.- Hyundai - enters the room.....
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/general-pistonhea...
This concept, and I'll be honest, most of their current range really works for me.
Some of the styling is hideously clunky but I hark back to when the Ford Focus was revealed with its "Edge" design languauge. That looked clunky, too radical and I thought Ford had lost the plot. 10 years later and it's now a classic (imho) of daily / shopping, car design that appealed to the masses.
The N Vision 74 has hints of Porsche, Audi Quattro, Deloreon, Retro Gaming, 280Z (rear window slats) Corrado, you could go on for ages. Who'd have thought that the Pony from all those years ago would get reborn like this.
It's bonkers and that's what is great. EVs have so little else to sell themselves they need to grab you're attention with the design.
Even the Ionic 6 (or RN22e bonkers machine) looks like a badly rehashed 2012 Citroën C6 to me at the moment but I'd rather be seen in that, than any of the bland-ass Tesla range.
Which would you chose, an N Vision 74 or a Griffith? in EV form.....
The IONIQ 5 and Cerbera are different in every way, which is why I need both
LucyP said:
V6 Pushfit said:
May I suggest you brief some mates, and generate a scenario where he’s out the front ranting and they arrive? One confronts him and tells him like it is, or something like that - so it’s not coming directly from you?
Isn't it time to get an injunction, Viper?1. Too much CCTV unless its pitch dark, hoodies and so on.
2. Tried to get one last year so LBA compiled and sent. This seemed to work for a while but the warmer weather brings him out. The police came today to collect the CCTV footage so will know in a week or so if they are going to take any action. Probably not so back to the solicitor looking likely.
glow worm said:
TwinKam said:
Talking of cooking, who on earth chucks a tomato straight in the pan with raw bacon and sausages? 
Me and bloody good it was too ... You of course noticed it was a sizzling hot pan with olive oil.
Viper201 said:
Both good solutions but both have issues.
1. Too much CCTV unless its pitch dark, hoodies and so on.
2. Tried to get one last year so LBA compiled and sent. This seemed to work for a while but the warmer weather brings him out. The police came today to collect the CCTV footage so will know in a week or so if they are going to take any action. Probably not so back to the solicitor looking likely.
Does he have a solicitor? If so, then the solicitor will probably advise him to offer an undertaking, as it isn't an admission, but a promise not to do what you are complaining about, in the future. Then if he breaches that, you can take him back to court for breach of the undertaking, which is basically the same as breaching the injunction. Sometimes you have to play "hardball" in legal proceedings with that type of person.1. Too much CCTV unless its pitch dark, hoodies and so on.
2. Tried to get one last year so LBA compiled and sent. This seemed to work for a while but the warmer weather brings him out. The police came today to collect the CCTV footage so will know in a week or so if they are going to take any action. Probably not so back to the solicitor looking likely.
I'm surprised that his wife doesn't keep him on a shorter lead. His behaviour is going to get him into a whole lot of trouble and cost, if he carries on.
Viper201 said:
LucyP said:
V6 Pushfit said:
May I suggest you brief some mates, and generate a scenario where he’s out the front ranting and they arrive? One confronts him and tells him like it is, or something like that - so it’s not coming directly from you?
Isn't it time to get an injunction, Viper?1. Too much CCTV unless its pitch dark, hoodies and so on.
2. Tried to get one last year so LBA compiled and sent. This seemed to work for a while but the warmer weather brings him out. The police came today to collect the CCTV footage so will know in a week or so if they are going to take any action. Probably not so back to the solicitor looking likely.
ker, it escalated to him being headbutted and they go on their way…glow worm said:
Todays Lunch ....I hope the PH Cookery Police are satisfied ... I used 2 pans ( Only because the egg wouldn't fit in one)
Presentation isn't my best skill
But I'm OK at eating... 5 a day in one meal.
Lunch my arse GW, that’s breakfast and you’re quaffing red wine with it… respect dude… ( Only because the egg wouldn't fit in one)Presentation isn't my best skill
But I'm OK at eating... 5 a day in one meal.
LucyP said:
Viper201 said:
Both good solutions but both have issues.
1. Too much CCTV unless its pitch dark, hoodies and so on.
2. Tried to get one last year so LBA compiled and sent. This seemed to work for a while but the warmer weather brings him out. The police came today to collect the CCTV footage so will know in a week or so if they are going to take any action. Probably not so back to the solicitor looking likely.
Does he have a solicitor? If so, then the solicitor will probably advise him to offer an undertaking, as it isn't an admission, but a promise not to do what you are complaining about, in the future. Then if he breaches that, you can take him back to court for breach of the undertaking, which is basically the same as breaching the injunction. Sometimes you have to play "hardball" in legal proceedings with that type of person.1. Too much CCTV unless its pitch dark, hoodies and so on.
2. Tried to get one last year so LBA compiled and sent. This seemed to work for a while but the warmer weather brings him out. The police came today to collect the CCTV footage so will know in a week or so if they are going to take any action. Probably not so back to the solicitor looking likely.
I'm surprised that his wife doesn't keep him on a shorter lead. His behaviour is going to get him into a whole lot of trouble and cost, if he carries on.
The real difficulty with ASB cases between neighbours is the time that police and other involved agencies have to take to sift evidence and identify the cause/culprit. All too often this is circumvented and the line of least resistance taken by issuing community protection notices against all parties because ‘neighbour dispute’ and therefore ‘each must be as bad as the other’.
Ian has my real sympathy in this situation; I and my neighbours have been having to deal with a drug dependent abusive family of a-class f
kwits for years now. Despite multiple incidents being fully evidenced, including with threats and abuse being recorded, precisely fk all has been done. Local govt ombudsman and Information Commissioner investigations ongoing, past professional standards complaints against lazy incompetent police officers notwithstanding. The capacity for rank closing and shoulder sloping is incredible…Sometimes it’s just easier to move, but why should the innocent party incur that burden?
LucyP said:
If he doesn't have a solicitor, the just apply to Court for an injunction then, and he can represent himself at Court.
You appear to believe injunctions are dished out like confetti. As discretionary remedies with quite punitive sanctions if breached, county court and high court judges alike will go very cautiously indeed when faced with a litigant in person defendant.
Nightmare for a claimant.
Viper seems to have more than sufficient evidence to convince a Court to grant an injunction on an on notice, if not ex-parte basis. And as I said earlier, that should force the badly behaving neighbour into offering an undertaking as an alternative to an injunction.
Viper writes well on here and he always researches his subject (often the Welsh Govt and the TVR Ltd companies positions) before he posts. I have no doubt that he could write a convincing witness statement and would be an impressive witness.
Viper writes well on here and he always researches his subject (often the Welsh Govt and the TVR Ltd companies positions) before he posts. I have no doubt that he could write a convincing witness statement and would be an impressive witness.
Edited by LucyP on Friday 22 July 13:29
LucyP said:
Viper seems to have more than sufficient evidence to convince a Court to grant an injunction on an on notice, if not ex-parte basis. And as I said earlier, that should force the badly behaving neighbour into offering an undertaking as an alternative to an injunction.
Viper writes well on here and he always researches his subject (often the Welsh Govt and the TVR Ltd companies positions) before he posts. I have no doubt that he could write a convincing witness statement and would be an impressive witness.
What you do or do not doubt is immaterial here; any evidence is for the court, and Iain has already indicated he has a solicitor on board but there are potential down sides to seeking injunctive relief. I believe he will have formed that view after considering his solicitor’s advice.Viper writes well on here and he always researches his subject (often the Welsh Govt and the TVR Ltd companies positions) before he posts. I have no doubt that he could write a convincing witness statement and would be an impressive witness.
Edited by LucyP on Friday 22 July 13:29
Thanks for the comments.
To bring you up to date, the police have now taken the footage from both the most recent incidents from the 1st and 12th July. I have copied the footage on to disc in case nothing is done.
I too have made complaints against some really bad police officers. During the Community Trigger process the council obtained copies of the police logs which they then supplied to me. The write ups bore no relation to the incidents. Like Pupp, the council did not carry out an investigation so went to the Ombudsman who cannot direct the council how to investigate. He did find unnecessary delays and they paid £250 compensation. The police worked really hard to not investigate until one PC took it upon herself to record a statement which ultimately led to the Community Resolution Order and the neighbour's promise not to contact me or threaten or abuse me. The letter of apology I received was written by his solicitor at the interview and signed by him. He left the police station at 2pm and drove home where he sat in his car waiting for me to get home at 2.15pm. As I parked up he lowered all the windows on his car, radio full blast, laughing and pointing at me before telling me to fk off. So that was a success then.
My solicitor suggests waiting until the police make a decision. Since the 12th there have been further incidents of shouting abuse and his very childish behaviour means I now get a V sign as he drives past the house. If the police do not take action I'm going to send the footage to the local MP who regularly posts on the force's Facebook pages. Oh, and did you know, this week is Antisocial Behaviour Awareness week......
To bring you up to date, the police have now taken the footage from both the most recent incidents from the 1st and 12th July. I have copied the footage on to disc in case nothing is done.
I too have made complaints against some really bad police officers. During the Community Trigger process the council obtained copies of the police logs which they then supplied to me. The write ups bore no relation to the incidents. Like Pupp, the council did not carry out an investigation so went to the Ombudsman who cannot direct the council how to investigate. He did find unnecessary delays and they paid £250 compensation. The police worked really hard to not investigate until one PC took it upon herself to record a statement which ultimately led to the Community Resolution Order and the neighbour's promise not to contact me or threaten or abuse me. The letter of apology I received was written by his solicitor at the interview and signed by him. He left the police station at 2pm and drove home where he sat in his car waiting for me to get home at 2.15pm. As I parked up he lowered all the windows on his car, radio full blast, laughing and pointing at me before telling me to f
k off. So that was a success then. My solicitor suggests waiting until the police make a decision. Since the 12th there have been further incidents of shouting abuse and his very childish behaviour means I now get a V sign as he drives past the house. If the police do not take action I'm going to send the footage to the local MP who regularly posts on the force's Facebook pages. Oh, and did you know, this week is Antisocial Behaviour Awareness week......
Penrhyn said:
Viper201 you have my sympathy, you really up against
Additionally the moving away option even if you wanted to, you would have to disclose the incidents with the neighbours.
No one should have to go through this, I’m sure that you have everyone’s sympathy. There is no easy answer (although many of my ex building trade employees would dispute that). Hang on in there with your perseverance.Additionally the moving away option even if you wanted to, you would have to disclose the incidents with the neighbours.
I get annoyed when my neighbour, ( who is an arse) doesn’t give me a return acknowledgment when I drive by.
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