More smoke and mirrors???????

More smoke and mirrors???????

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crosseyedlion

2,180 posts

199 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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elisek said:
I have costumers with car projects but i cannot give you any information on confidential works covered by contracts.
But you can on facebook? Not to mention defecating on the brand.

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

211 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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elisek said:
I have costumers with car projects but i cannot give you any information on confidential works covered by contracts.
I assume he's saying that he's doing the work but it's his client that has the Facebook page.

scratchchin

crosseyedlion

2,180 posts

199 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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V8 GRF said:
elisek said:
I have costumers with car projects but i cannot give you any information on confidential works covered by contracts.
I assume he's saying that he's doing the work but it's his client that has the Facebook page.

scratchchin
Of the same name. Yes.

gammav

118 posts

196 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Hi Gianluca
Ok so you cant talk bout commissioned work for clients.

So lets ask about your car...the 07 Red LHD Sag with dark coloured spiders...you have previously posted about here on PH.

Do you still have it and does it now have an american V8 engine?

Perhaps you'd like to share some info and pics of the LS conversion ...always a popular topic here.

jamieduff1981

8,029 posts

141 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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elisek said:
but i asked to remove the pictures or post where i'm associated to stories that you don't know from inside, making only assumptions. My request it is fair, unless i need to report for my first time on PH some posts. please do it.

I respect everyone and i pretend to be respected in my work.
There is a substantial amount of evidence linking you with that Facebook page called "TVR CARS". Everyone is NOT happy with you using their copyrighted photographs on that site and you have been asked to remove them from your Facebook page. This was repeated on one of your recent threads before you banned everyone.

You talk about respect yet you treat us here as if we are all stupid. It is clearly you who is running that page. Even Smolenski's employees say they transferred that page to you. You have pictures of the same projects/cars on both the Facebook page and your personal website and you have an identical style and manner of writing.

It's perhaps less convenient for you that we're not all stupid, but unfortunately I think the "assumptions" are entirely accurate.

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

211 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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I've just done a bit more digging.

The applicant of the 'TVR Engineering' trademark is listed as Fabio Cardoni, so not the same name.

However, if we look at other trademarks owned by the same person we see a company called 'The Black Douglas Motorcycle Co'

If we vist their website we see the business address of that company is the same as Gianluca's business.

That's a bit of a co-incidence isn't it? hehe

rigga

8,732 posts

202 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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elisek said:
Dear all
some friends informed me today that some of you are talking about me.
I'm a PH member since 2000 and i know also the founder Dave of this site.
I've always worked with British cars and i know them very well and i respect always the british works.

SO

I ask to the people that inserted here not Authorized images to removed them because of my property or at least ask me to use them.
I ask to the people that talk about me in discussions they don't know, to remove my name because can be associate at no real facts.

I'm a professionist and i build cars. I have people that order me projects and prototypes so if you have any problems with them, just talk to them. I have many projects and customers at the moment and i cannot take care about all the forum discussions but i would like to protect my work especially if associated with invented stories.

Thanks for your help and good work with PH. I like it but please, take care to write proper stories. Cheers.
Pot and kettle springs to mind on that ....

Roo

11,503 posts

208 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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I'm obviously being a bit thick here, but why would NS transfer the admin power of that page to someone not connected to his company?

crosseyedlion

2,180 posts

199 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Roo said:
I'm obviously being a bit thick here, but why would NS transfer the admin power of that page to someone not connected to his company?
Because most would assume that such a group would go to someone who is genuinely a fan, with honourable intentions.

I don't think it would have been anticipated quite this guys intentions or (more importantly...i feel) his attitude and approach to it.

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

211 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Roo said:
I'm obviously being a bit thick here, but why would NS transfer the admin power of that page to someone not connected to his company?
Why indeed.... ?

natben

2,743 posts

232 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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It looks like he has been working on the Cerbera since December 2010 and we are now in January 2013 and the car is a bare shell and a long way from being finished, I doubt we will see anything from him soon and certainley a long way from any kind of manufacturing.

If NS has alowed him to use the TVR facebook site then that tells me all we need to know about him. And all he has done over the last week is tarnish the TVR brand.

Great work by the PH who have been looking into this I am sure the guy has been stunned that so much has been found out about him so quickly, hopefull he will go away to his shed and leave TVR to us the enthusiasts and owners that have the heart and soul of TVR.

Jetblackonetenth

691 posts

210 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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I think like most people on here we liked the page because it looked like an official TVR fan page and it was good to have some different pictures of lovely TVR's pop up on our news page rather than some of the other stuff we get everyday. It was only when this page stated to claim that they were the spokesman for a company that were making TVR cars people started to complain.

crosseyedlion

2,180 posts

199 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Jetblackonetenth said:
I think like most people on here we liked the page because it looked like an official TVR fan page and it was good to have some different pictures of lovely TVR's pop up on our news page rather than some of the other stuff we get everyday. It was only when this page stated to claim that they were the spokesman for a company that were making TVR cars people started to complain.
Because previously....it was. The previous admin asked on the group who wanted to take over sometime in August...This chap hit the motherload

Jetblackonetenth

691 posts

210 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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all makes sense

burriana

16,556 posts

255 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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5.0ltr said:
Busted hehe

Justices

3,681 posts

165 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Look at the bright side, you'd normally have to pay an entrance fee at the circus to see such clownery.

It's just very disappointing to have a brand we all love to be kicked squarely in the face when it's already down..

Gazzab

21,115 posts

283 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Take an old Cerbera. Fix the chassis, change the engine and modify the bodywork. Can you pass that off as a new car,

Speed6Vette

2 posts

136 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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All this talk off TVR,s reputation being damaged, Jordon,s got more reputation left than TVR

fala serio por favor


Jetblackonetenth

691 posts

210 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Italian Wikipedia are have problems with him and have removed his TVR references

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:De...

Jetblackonetenth

691 posts

210 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Speed6Vette said:
All this talk off TVR,s reputation being damaged, Jordon,s got more reputation left than TVR

fala serio por favor
Great 1st post, you went to the trouble to register just to post this?