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Max_Torque said:
You might be surprised. Cosworth is not the company it once was. Today, it's really a posh aftermarket tuner, they have lost most of their "legendary" engineers and projects. Given the column inches i suspect the cost for the (minor) fettling of the engine was a lot less than you might think
(i also know they didn't pay their bills at at least one point, because i 'jumped' them in the queue for some components from a well known supplier, and they had not paid up, so got their parts.... ;-) )
Sorry but that's not accurate(i also know they didn't pay their bills at at least one point, because i 'jumped' them in the queue for some components from a well known supplier, and they had not paid up, so got their parts.... ;-) )
90% of the projects occurring at Cosworth are confidential , so oddly enough you don't hear about them
however we are very busy making engines from scratch, doing design upgrades, investigations and all aspects of engine work and testing for anything engine related
would the Aston martin Valkyrie engine be produced by an 'posh aftermarket' tuner
no it would not
its an utterly bespoke 6.5 ltr V12 that will rev to 11,000rpm and pass California emissions
there's not many firms that would be willing and able to tackle it.
Edited by 350Matt on Wednesday 21st March 16:27
350Matt said:
Max_Torque said:
You might be surprised. Cosworth is not the company it once was. Today, it's really a posh aftermarket tuner, they have lost most of their "legendary" engineers and projects. Given the column inches i suspect the cost for the (minor) fettling of the engine was a lot less than you might think
(i also know they didn't pay their bills at at least one point, because i 'jumped' them in the queue for some components from a well known supplier, and they had not paid up, so got their parts.... ;-) )
Sorry but that's not accurate(i also know they didn't pay their bills at at least one point, because i 'jumped' them in the queue for some components from a well known supplier, and they had not paid up, so got their parts.... ;-) )
90% of the projects occurring at Cosworth are confidential , so oddly enough you don't hear about them
however we are very busy making engines form scratch, doing design upgrades, investigations and all aspects of engine work and testing for anything engine related
would the Aston martin Valkyrie engine be produced by an 'posh aftermarket' tuner
no it would not
its an utterly bespoke 6.5 ltr V12 that will rev to 11,000rpm and pass California emissions
there's not many firms that would be willing and able to tackle it.
350Matt said:
Max_Torque said:
You might be surprised. Cosworth is not the company it once was. Today, it's really a posh aftermarket tuner, they have lost most of their "legendary" engineers and projects. Given the column inches i suspect the cost for the (minor) fettling of the engine was a lot less than you might think
(i also know they didn't pay their bills at at least one point, because i 'jumped' them in the queue for some components from a well known supplier, and they had not paid up, so got their parts.... ;-) )
Sorry but that's not accurate(i also know they didn't pay their bills at at least one point, because i 'jumped' them in the queue for some components from a well known supplier, and they had not paid up, so got their parts.... ;-) )
90% of the projects occurring at Cosworth are confidential , so oddly enough you don't hear about them
however we are very busy making engines from scratch, doing design upgrades, investigations and all aspects of engine work and testing for anything engine related
would the Aston martin Valkyrie engine be produced by an 'posh aftermarket' tuner
no it would not
its an utterly bespoke 6.5 ltr V12 that will rev to 11,000rpm and pass California emissions
there's not many firms that would be willing and able to tackle it.
Edited by 350Matt on Wednesday 21st March 16:27
Max_Torque said:
I work in the industry, i used to work for Cosworth, i have friends who work there now, and several more who work next door at Mahle (nee Cosworth Technology) so i have a reasonable handle on what's going on, and compared to the "Glory" days of the late 1990's it's a changed place. Certainly not at the level in the industry it once was.....
For gods sake don’t start, you’ll make them cry. This lot are still living in the DFV era Max_Torque said:
350Matt said:
Max_Torque said:
You might be surprised. Cosworth is not the company it once was. Today, it's really a posh aftermarket tuner, they have lost most of their "legendary" engineers and projects. Given the column inches i suspect the cost for the (minor) fettling of the engine was a lot less than you might think
(i also know they didn't pay their bills at at least one point, because i 'jumped' them in the queue for some components from a well known supplier, and they had not paid up, so got their parts.... ;-) )
Sorry but that's not accurate(i also know they didn't pay their bills at at least one point, because i 'jumped' them in the queue for some components from a well known supplier, and they had not paid up, so got their parts.... ;-) )
90% of the projects occurring at Cosworth are confidential , so oddly enough you don't hear about them
however we are very busy making engines from scratch, doing design upgrades, investigations and all aspects of engine work and testing for anything engine related
would the Aston martin Valkyrie engine be produced by an 'posh aftermarket' tuner
no it would not
its an utterly bespoke 6.5 ltr V12 that will rev to 11,000rpm and pass California emissions
there's not many firms that would be willing and able to tackle it.
Edited by 350Matt on Wednesday 21st March 16:27
AM Valkyrie engine .. sufficient “level in the industry” kudos pour moi..
Edited by spagbogdog on Thursday 22 March 23:16
Max_Torque said:
I work in the industry, i used to work for Cosworth, i have friends who work there now, and several more who work next door at Mahle (nee Cosworth Technology) so i have a reasonable handle on what's going on, and compared to the "Glory" days of the late 1990's it's a changed place. Certainly not at the level in the industry it once was.....
I know. I should never have left. Sorry about that.I do remember the glorious porta cabins in the car-park, the "network printer" that consisted of sharing a serial cable between friends. Heady days! When we finally got on a real network, I remember spending some time perusing old .TIF's of DFV drawings and other extremely securely archived stuff...
Edited by AER on Thursday 22 March 23:39
AER said:
I know. I should never have left. Sorry about that.
I do remember the glorious porta cabins in the car-park, the "network printer" that consisted of sharing a serial cable between friends. Heady days! When we finally got on a real network, I remember spending some time perusing old .TIF's of DFV drawings and other extremely securely archived stuff...
Come to think of it, the whole company pretty much went downhill after WE left! Co-incidence? I think not...... ;-)I do remember the glorious porta cabins in the car-park, the "network printer" that consisted of sharing a serial cable between friends. Heady days! When we finally got on a real network, I remember spending some time perusing old .TIF's of DFV drawings and other extremely securely archived stuff...
Just remembered the VaX room, wow, i'd forgotten that particular nightmare! Trying to access cal data held in Dunton over what amounted to a string and beancan line from northampton, via the most obfuscated text based interface known to man! Happy days eh!
Max_Torque said:
I work in the industry, i used to work for Cosworth, i have friends who work there now, and several more who work next door at Mahle (nee Cosworth Technology) so i have a reasonable handle on what's going on, and compared to the "Glory" days of the late 1990's it's a changed place. Certainly not at the level in the industry it once was.....
good for youthere is life after Cosworth
I know that
however you're not here now and so can't know what its currently like to work here
my 1st stint was 96 - 05 and I came back to the place in 2012
and yes its not the same, but where is?
the 90's F1 race engine industry requirements which powered the place like a massive dynamo have dissipated to 3 engines a year so its a bit difficult to run a factory on that level of requirement
so Cosworth has had to find other markets in order to survive not having the massive manufacturer backing of brixworth
but the skill set remains largely the same and I feel I can say having been there in the ' heyday' its still a force to be reckoned with and with a world class talent pool and facility
350Matt said:
Yes still making people turn around open mouthed,Not all the same but it still has the prototype Emerald unit, if its not broke dont fix it, Your 4.0ltr went pop!, So went New RPI 4.6, Piper cams etc, emerald has been remapped a couple of times, still enlarged plem and lightened flywheel, AVO's replaced with GAZ, Resprayed, same colour, got rid of your silly Bonnet vents and put on 450 Bonnet and a rear spoiler, The seats are from a 450 TVR Logo, all interior changed but its still not good in that area, same sound !!! has won loudest wedge at Big Bad Wedgefest, A Few other things under the bonnet, so I can keep up with modern traffic.
Not perfect condition but its to drive and enjoy
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