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New TVR still under wraps!

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julian64

14,317 posts

256 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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phazed said:
How we laughed at Kia some years ago! If you were lucky enough to know someone who bought one then, what joy, many hours of playful ribbing and piss taking!
Still do.

350Matt

3,741 posts

281 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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Max_Torque said:
You might be surprised. Cosworth is not the company it once was. Today, it's really a posh aftermarket tuner, they have lost most of their "legendary" engineers and projects. Given the column inches i suspect the cost for the (minor) fettling of the engine was a lot less than you might think

(i also know they didn't pay their bills at at least one point, because i 'jumped' them in the queue for some components from a well known supplier, and they had not paid up, so got their parts.... ;-) )
Sorry but that's not accurate

90% of the projects occurring at Cosworth are confidential , so oddly enough you don't hear about them

however we are very busy making engines from scratch, doing design upgrades, investigations and all aspects of engine work and testing for anything engine related

would the Aston martin Valkyrie engine be produced by an 'posh aftermarket' tuner
no it would not
its an utterly bespoke 6.5 ltr V12 that will rev to 11,000rpm and pass California emissions
there's not many firms that would be willing and able to tackle it.

Edited by 350Matt on Wednesday 21st March 16:27

N7GTX

7,897 posts

145 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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350Matt said:
its an utterly bespoke 6.5 ltr V12 that will rev to 11,000rpm and pass California emissions
there's not many firms that would be willing and able to tackle it.
Can you fit it in the new TVR please? smokin

spagbogdog

764 posts

262 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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350Matt said:
Max_Torque said:
You might be surprised. Cosworth is not the company it once was. Today, it's really a posh aftermarket tuner, they have lost most of their "legendary" engineers and projects. Given the column inches i suspect the cost for the (minor) fettling of the engine was a lot less than you might think

(i also know they didn't pay their bills at at least one point, because i 'jumped' them in the queue for some components from a well known supplier, and they had not paid up, so got their parts.... ;-) )
Sorry but that's not accurate

90% of the projects occurring at Cosworth are confidential , so oddly enough you don't hear about them

however we are very busy making engines form scratch, doing design upgrades, investigations and all aspects of engine work and testing for anything engine related

would the Aston martin Valkyrie engine be produced by an 'posh aftermarket' tuner
no it would not
its an utterly bespoke 6.5 ltr V12 that will rev to 11,000rpm and pass California emissions
there's not many firms that would be willing and able to tackle it.
...luv that ^^^...thumbup...kinda response that make Hedge~Funds go all goooey eyed clap



barchetta_boy

2,202 posts

234 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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Will that engine bear a Cosworth logo on the cam covers? Serious question.

350Matt

3,741 posts

281 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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possibly, to be honest there's not much room on there as there's quite a of lot of kit on this engine

spagbogdog

764 posts

262 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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350Matt said:
possibly, to be honest there's not much room on there as there's quite a of lot of kit on this engine
scratchchin...oooh pray tell us more please (if allowed)...?

AER

1,142 posts

272 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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350Matt said:
its an utterly bespoke 6.5 ltr V12 that will rev to 11,000rpm and pass California emissions
Is that last bit a euphemism for stting itself...?

350Matt

3,741 posts

281 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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ha ha laugh

no

its got to be sold in the states so has to pas the same regs as any production car

TwinKam

3,025 posts

97 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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350Matt said:
ha ha laugh

no

its got to be sold in the states so has to pas the same regs as any production car
Oh, just like VW, BMW etc then... winkbiglaugh

Testarossa

1,050 posts

223 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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350 Matt

Post more often please!

KelWedge

1,279 posts

187 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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Testarossa said:
350 Matt

Post more often please!
This might get a response from Matt

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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350Matt said:
Max_Torque said:
You might be surprised. Cosworth is not the company it once was. Today, it's really a posh aftermarket tuner, they have lost most of their "legendary" engineers and projects. Given the column inches i suspect the cost for the (minor) fettling of the engine was a lot less than you might think

(i also know they didn't pay their bills at at least one point, because i 'jumped' them in the queue for some components from a well known supplier, and they had not paid up, so got their parts.... ;-) )
Sorry but that's not accurate

90% of the projects occurring at Cosworth are confidential , so oddly enough you don't hear about them

however we are very busy making engines from scratch, doing design upgrades, investigations and all aspects of engine work and testing for anything engine related

would the Aston martin Valkyrie engine be produced by an 'posh aftermarket' tuner
no it would not
its an utterly bespoke 6.5 ltr V12 that will rev to 11,000rpm and pass California emissions
there's not many firms that would be willing and able to tackle it.

Edited by 350Matt on Wednesday 21st March 16:27
I work in the industry, i used to work for Cosworth, i have friends who work there now, and several more who work next door at Mahle (nee Cosworth Technology) so i have a reasonable handle on what's going on, and compared to the "Glory" days of the late 1990's it's a changed place. Certainly not at the level in the industry it once was.....

m4tti

5,440 posts

157 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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Max_Torque said:
I work in the industry, i used to work for Cosworth, i have friends who work there now, and several more who work next door at Mahle (nee Cosworth Technology) so i have a reasonable handle on what's going on, and compared to the "Glory" days of the late 1990's it's a changed place. Certainly not at the level in the industry it once was.....
For gods sake don’t start, you’ll make them cry. This lot are still living in the DFV era wobble

spagbogdog

764 posts

262 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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Max_Torque said:
350Matt said:
Max_Torque said:
You might be surprised. Cosworth is not the company it once was. Today, it's really a posh aftermarket tuner, they have lost most of their "legendary" engineers and projects. Given the column inches i suspect the cost for the (minor) fettling of the engine was a lot less than you might think

(i also know they didn't pay their bills at at least one point, because i 'jumped' them in the queue for some components from a well known supplier, and they had not paid up, so got their parts.... ;-) )
Sorry but that's not accurate

90% of the projects occurring at Cosworth are confidential , so oddly enough you don't hear about them

however we are very busy making engines from scratch, doing design upgrades, investigations and all aspects of engine work and testing for anything engine related

would the Aston martin Valkyrie engine be produced by an 'posh aftermarket' tuner
no it would not
its an utterly bespoke 6.5 ltr V12 that will rev to 11,000rpm and pass California emissions
there's not many firms that would be willing and able to tackle it.

Edited by 350Matt on Wednesday 21st March 16:27
I work in the industry, i used to work for Cosworth, i have friends who work there now, and several more who work next door at Mahle (nee Cosworth Technology) so i have a reasonable handle on what's going on, and compared to the "Glory" days of the late 1990's it's a changed place. Certainly not at the level in the industry it once was.....
nono...sounds a bit like sour grapes tbh..
AM Valkyrie engine .. sufficient “level in the industry” kudos pour moi..


Edited by spagbogdog on Thursday 22 March 23:16

AER

1,142 posts

272 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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Max_Torque said:
I work in the industry, i used to work for Cosworth, i have friends who work there now, and several more who work next door at Mahle (nee Cosworth Technology) so i have a reasonable handle on what's going on, and compared to the "Glory" days of the late 1990's it's a changed place. Certainly not at the level in the industry it once was.....
I know. I should never have left. Sorry about that.

I do remember the glorious porta cabins in the car-park, the "network printer" that consisted of sharing a serial cable between friends. Heady days! When we finally got on a real network, I remember spending some time perusing old .TIF's of DFV drawings and other extremely securely archived stuff...

Edited by AER on Thursday 22 March 23:39

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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AER said:
I know. I should never have left. Sorry about that.

I do remember the glorious porta cabins in the car-park, the "network printer" that consisted of sharing a serial cable between friends. Heady days! When we finally got on a real network, I remember spending some time perusing old .TIF's of DFV drawings and other extremely securely archived stuff...
Come to think of it, the whole company pretty much went downhill after WE left! Co-incidence? I think not...... ;-)


Just remembered the VaX room, wow, i'd forgotten that particular nightmare! Trying to access cal data held in Dunton over what amounted to a string and beancan line from northampton, via the most obfuscated text based interface known to man! Happy days eh!


350Matt

3,741 posts

281 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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KelWedge said:
This might get a response from Matt
blimey

is the old girl still going then?

350Matt

3,741 posts

281 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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Max_Torque said:
I work in the industry, i used to work for Cosworth, i have friends who work there now, and several more who work next door at Mahle (nee Cosworth Technology) so i have a reasonable handle on what's going on, and compared to the "Glory" days of the late 1990's it's a changed place. Certainly not at the level in the industry it once was.....
good for you
there is life after Cosworth
I know that
however you're not here now and so can't know what its currently like to work here

my 1st stint was 96 - 05 and I came back to the place in 2012
and yes its not the same, but where is?

the 90's F1 race engine industry requirements which powered the place like a massive dynamo have dissipated to 3 engines a year so its a bit difficult to run a factory on that level of requirement
so Cosworth has had to find other markets in order to survive not having the massive manufacturer backing of brixworth

but the skill set remains largely the same and I feel I can say having been there in the ' heyday' its still a force to be reckoned with and with a world class talent pool and facility

KelWedge

1,279 posts

187 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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350Matt said:
KelWedge said:
This might get a response from Matt
blimey

is the old girl still going then?
Yes still making people turn around open mouthed,
Not all the same but it still has the prototype Emerald unit, if its not broke dont fix it, Your 4.0ltr went pop!, So went New RPI 4.6, Piper cams etc, emerald has been remapped a couple of times, still enlarged plem and lightened flywheel, AVO's replaced with GAZ, Resprayed, same colour, got rid of your silly Bonnet vents and put on 450 Bonnet and a rear spoiler, The seats are from a 450 TVR Logo, all interior changed but its still not good in that area, same sound !!! has won loudest wedge at Big Bad Wedgefest, A Few other things under the bonnet, so I can keep up with modern traffic.
Not perfect condition but its to drive and enjoy biggrin
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