New TVR still under wraps!
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spagbogdog said:
Pretty good I’d say...with the next one promised within 6 weeks.
The car remains excellent value imo
Great value agreed and if it does drive as well as Les says - they've nailed it BUT come on Spag, that front, come on, come on, come on, it's okay, you can say it, you can be slightly negative.... The car remains excellent value imo
PLEASE MAKE THE FRONT MATCH THE REST!
I'm sure all the diehards will be salivating copiously now but really, does it tell you anything new? Still no date for the first production car? Maybe a solid promise about a small factory unit by the Welsh government?
The rest is the usual 'Les hypes it up' sales pitch.
I had long wondered why Powers - who originally criticised the whole project saying it was not going to happen - had gone quiet. Now I know. Reading this thread I was under the impression that Cosworth had 'breathed' on the engine so everyone was even more excited as this gave the car 'credibility'. Yet from this last update I read it as a Cosworth dry sump on the LE cars with a Powers Performance engine power upgrade? Presumably Powers are now back in the fold - well they must be for warranty reasons surely?
No mention of the front......
The rest is the usual 'Les hypes it up' sales pitch.
I had long wondered why Powers - who originally criticised the whole project saying it was not going to happen - had gone quiet. Now I know. Reading this thread I was under the impression that Cosworth had 'breathed' on the engine so everyone was even more excited as this gave the car 'credibility'. Yet from this last update I read it as a Cosworth dry sump on the LE cars with a Powers Performance engine power upgrade? Presumably Powers are now back in the fold - well they must be for warranty reasons surely?
No mention of the front......
I thought it was a great update. I liked the slagging off of Lotus (even though I like Lotus) that can only come from a confident place.
I like the fact the normal cars are starting with 7 rather than a 5 or 6.
I enjoyed the subtle response to many questions generated from forum chats.
I was deeply upset by the guru saying nothing but positive comments in the looks department (front), but that's just me.
My concern is this, the LE car yes worth it, the 80k car, with those looks and poverty spec, will it convert many people?
Overall though, shows Les and the team are doing their best and that is all we should be asking for.
If the car turns out to be a flop or company goes bust, I still admire the fact there are people out there that don't need this headache but feel they have a purpose and I wholeheartedly respect Les for that.
I like the fact the normal cars are starting with 7 rather than a 5 or 6.
I enjoyed the subtle response to many questions generated from forum chats.
I was deeply upset by the guru saying nothing but positive comments in the looks department (front), but that's just me.
My concern is this, the LE car yes worth it, the 80k car, with those looks and poverty spec, will it convert many people?
Overall though, shows Les and the team are doing their best and that is all we should be asking for.
If the car turns out to be a flop or company goes bust, I still admire the fact there are people out there that don't need this headache but feel they have a purpose and I wholeheartedly respect Les for that.
N7GTX said:
I had long wondered why Powers - who originally criticised the whole project saying it was not going to happen - had gone quiet. Now I know. Reading this thread I was under the impression that Cosworth had 'breathed' on the engine so everyone was even more excited as this gave the car 'credibility'. Yet from this last update I read it as a Cosworth dry sump on the LE cars with a Powers Performance engine power upgrade? Presumably Powers are now back in the fold - well they must be for warranty reasons surely?
No mention of the front......
TVR Power are now Powers Performance.. Nothing to do with the tuning of this engine.No mention of the front......
The engine is tuned by Cosworth.
Speed 3 said:
"Big" news in the start of that release sounds like a tie-up with a major manufacturer for a bit of brand management and possibly special editions of mainstreamers. Ford sounds plausible, given the engine ?
My guess, and I have said previously makes a lot of sense, is for the car to be made in USA (or at least sold to USA market) as this will make the venture viable given the size of the US market and the fact that the Americans love a British sports car with a big yank motor in it. Emissions obviously wont be an issue. A wise move by TVR if that is what the big news is. Good for us to as it means financial stability for TVR.
It's not a post you'd send out when you're about to fold, so it's good news. Lifting the production target above 2000 is also something i would not have expected, great news, but need to wait for details and the announcement first.
Would like to know something about the planned depositors events though.
If everything goes to plan the LE edition will come at a steep discount compared to a comparably specced standard edition and has the benefit of being a "x of 500" model. Unless one still belives the whole thing still blows up and the deposits are at risk or one believes that there will be no market for it because the front is too ugly or whatever, now would probably be the worst time to pull the deposit as a) things don't seem to be as bad as they were talked up to be and b) more news and updates to follow soon.
Rob-s5mok said:
As it's August and therefore a slow news day, let's play a game of 'guess where I am in the queue'. Is there a pattern in the Reference number?
I placed my deposit on the 15th July 2015 and my reference is W52197278.
And I love the new email address! "dearies@tvr.co.uk"
I paid my deposit on 8th July (day 2) so must have a pretty good chance of being in top 50! Reckon you will be too as only a week later. I placed my deposit on the 15th July 2015 and my reference is W52197278.
And I love the new email address! "dearies@tvr.co.uk"
Testarossa said:
I thought it was a great update. I liked the slagging off of Lotus (even though I like Lotus) that can only come from a confident place.
Not really, there is no need to "slag" Lotus off, they have manufacturing facilities, they have cars being produced now, you can buy one now, they have backing to develop new models, they have a skilled workforce, none of which TVR have at the moment.Trying to point score over Lotus is pretty poor form when TVR have nothing to offer but promises and hype at the current time, plus £2.5 million of depositors money.
A clear statement of when the first cars will be produced would be a step forward, but they clearly are a long way from knowing that or they would say so. Let's hope that's the big, soon showing near you, announcement.
essexstu said:
Rob-s5mok said:
As it's August and therefore a slow news day, let's play a game of 'guess where I am in the queue'. Is there a pattern in the Reference number?
I placed my deposit on the 15th July 2015 and my reference is W52197278.
And I love the new email address! "dearies@tvr.co.uk"
I paid my deposit on 8th July (day 2) so must have a pretty good chance of being in top 50! Reckon you will be too as only a week later. I placed my deposit on the 15th July 2015 and my reference is W52197278.
And I love the new email address! "dearies@tvr.co.uk"
essexstu said:
Rob-s5mok said:
As it's August and therefore a slow news day, let's play a game of 'guess where I am in the queue'. Is there a pattern in the Reference number?
I placed my deposit on the 15th July 2015 and my reference is W52197278.
And I love the new email address! "dearies@tvr.co.uk"
I paid my deposit on 8th July (day 2) so must have a pretty good chance of being in top 50! Reckon you will be too as only a week later. I placed my deposit on the 15th July 2015 and my reference is W52197278.
And I love the new email address! "dearies@tvr.co.uk"
Sad as it might seem, part of me is both gutted and excited to see the car come to fruition, good luck to all holders.
Monkeylegend said:
Not really, there is no need to "slag" Lotus off, they have manufacturing facilities, they have cars being produced now, you can buy one now, they have backing to develop new models, they have a skilled workforce, none of which TVR have at the moment.
Trying to point score over Lotus is pretty poor form when TVR have nothing to offer but promises and hype at the current time, plus £2.5 million of depositors money.
A clear statement of when the first cars will be produced would be a step forward, but they clearly are a long way from knowing that or they would say so. Let's hope that's the big, soon showing near you, announcement.
Agree - the Evora is a much underrated car. I still bemused by why people are waiting for the new Griff when they can buy an Evora now. Other than the exhaust note I am struggling to see why you would by a new Griff over it. You can tout your 'GM Ground Effect' as much as you like, but good luck with keeping up with an Evora over Norfolk B roads!Trying to point score over Lotus is pretty poor form when TVR have nothing to offer but promises and hype at the current time, plus £2.5 million of depositors money.
A clear statement of when the first cars will be produced would be a step forward, but they clearly are a long way from knowing that or they would say so. Let's hope that's the big, soon showing near you, announcement.
Admit I am slightly biased due to the fact I am close to completing the purchase of a house only a few miles from Hethel but still the Evora is the nearest thing to interesting me after the Sag
When Les says "one of our founders"
I presume this must mean one of my fellow investors.. as the narrative is pure sales hype. Fair enough really but it would be nice to see that they are looking into the vast amount of critics who just do not like the gaping mouth look as it does seem to be a deal breaker for many.
Also he could mention that deposits are held in a secure account but instead he mentions where in the Queue people are..
But overall, as least they put some info out there to show the tough time they are having bringing a new car with no production facilities to market.
I presume this must mean one of my fellow investors.. as the narrative is pure sales hype. Fair enough really but it would be nice to see that they are looking into the vast amount of critics who just do not like the gaping mouth look as it does seem to be a deal breaker for many.
Also he could mention that deposits are held in a secure account but instead he mentions where in the Queue people are..
But overall, as least they put some info out there to show the tough time they are having bringing a new car with no production facilities to market.
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