RE: Tamora 2!

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richb

51,741 posts

285 months

Friday 11th May 2001
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Tamora, this car is a joke do not even mention Boxster in the same context. no chance of any Porsche buyers moving over to TVR with the crap design and poore build quality, more to performance than TVR over estimated BHP and straight line performance 360 TVR BHP = 280 BHP in the real world
Ah well that's still more than the 252bhp which Porsche quote for the Boxster, and with the Boxster's 0-60 times of between 6 to 7 seconds it should leave it for dead.

andyr

364 posts

285 months

Friday 11th May 2001
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Er, I thought 0-60 time was about the main reason anyone buys a sports car, unless you're only interested in making a lifestyle statement.....

nubbin

6,809 posts

279 months

Friday 11th May 2001
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So what - my dad's bigger than your dad. There, another example of mature porsche driver's car chat. You run along and keep to what you like, por1, and I'll do the same. No doubt there will be comparative tests of the boxster and Tamora in a few months, but for now I think I'll take an experienced motoring journalists opinion over your rantings. Richard Meaden is a great driver, and has been in cars you can only talk about second hand. If he suggests the handling of the Tamora is on a par with the push-me - pull-you, then I guess you'd have to give him credit for knowing what he's talking about. I drive TVR's because they're fast, noisy, great to look at, fun to drive, make people stop, wave, engage you in conversation, smile as you pass. I stopped at a filling station a few months ago, and a biker came over and said, "I've never had a car, but if I did, THAT'S what I'd have!" (whilst pointing at my car, obviously). I don't ever get the impression that a Porsche engenders that sort of reaction. My biker mates tell me that the usual reaction is along the lines of "flash bastard". Porsche owners are probably typified by that fool on TV a week or so ago, the "king of the road" know-all. Good advert for the breed.....Your ill-informed comments do little to dispel that sterotype..... Edited by nubbin on Friday 11th May 17:15

jsg

2,238 posts

284 months

Sunday 13th May 2001
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oooohh 0-60 times again o well thats all tvr can do
Not sure why POR1 reads the TVR threads unless he's secretly envious of a proper sports car. Interesting the point on 0 - 60 times, quite a few guys at work run Boxters and its all my car's faster than yours ... blah blah. Funny enough the cars that get most positive comments and attention are the couple of TVRs in the car park.

nubbin

6,809 posts

279 months

Sunday 13th May 2001
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I went to an open day at my dealer yesterday, because they had the Tamora, and a Tuscan R on display. I was approached by two people, on separate occassions, both of whom were wanting to buy either a Tuscan, or a Chimp. And guess what they both had as their current car? - yep, Boxsters! Very common, see them all the time. I also spoke at length to a chap from the factory, who had driven the Tamora over from Blackpool - lucky sod!! - he said even this pre-production car was superb to drive, handles really well, steering and brakes better than the Tuscan, quiet with the lid up, great exhaust note, loads of exhaust note in the cabin with the roof down etc, etc... An English Boxster? Amazing that TVR, whose cars have really only got serious since Peter Wheeler took over (sorry wedge boys, but I think it's true), can have a car to challenge the likes of Porsche, BMW, etc, after so few years at car building. Maybe the comparison with the first years of Ferrari isn't as ridiculous as it seems....

jamesc

2,820 posts

285 months

Monday 14th May 2001
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Just reading EVO, and have just realised where I have seen the Tomara before. Its a evolution of the Suzuki Cappucino with extra cafine.

jamesc

2,820 posts

285 months

Monday 14th May 2001
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In the same June edition of EVO, have you seen the Stola S82 Spyder!! Much better and faster than the Tomato.

christof

882 posts

285 months

Monday 14th May 2001
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In the same June edition of EVO, have you seen the Stola S82 Spyder!! Much better and faster than the Tomato.
Don't talk about the cars, buy one!!!! Christof

nubbin

6,809 posts

279 months

Monday 14th May 2001
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In the same June edition of EVO, have you seen the Stola S82 Spyder!! Much better and faster than the Tomato.
How many bespoke Italian supercars can you buy new for £36000? Get real. :

jamesc

2,820 posts

285 months

Monday 14th May 2001
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Take your point, but at least they work!

richb

51,741 posts

285 months

Tuesday 15th May 2001
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James, I don't get it. you clearly have some issue with TVRs yet you hang out on a (mostly) TVR web site. Are you one of these grumpy old git who's not happy unless he's moaning? Rich... I guess so 'cos even you must know that there's a difference between 36 grand and 100k ... although thinking again, perhaps not?

nubbin

6,809 posts

279 months

Tuesday 15th May 2001
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James, didn't you have a particularly bad time with a speed six engine - or am I thinking of someone else. Whatever, in a way it's gratifying that we all compare TVR with big money mainstream manufacturers - it shows that they're improving when we have specific moans related to specific areas. I know I keep banging the drum with regard to the Tamora, but it really is a big step up for TVR. The styling isn't perfect, but that's true of the majority of small manufacturers - I wouldn't describe the Iceni, also in EVO as the last word in automotive beauty!! However, for a manufacturer of 2000 cars a year to have such a huge public profile, and had several BIG hits in past years, TVR aren't doing too bad. Maybe our criticism reflects our desire for them to succeed - typical English attitude to success! I know Porsche have an excelllent reliability record, so too BMW,but they are MASSIVE companies compared to TVR. And, don't forget that TVR produce virtually all the parts themselves - we should praise Peter Wheeler to the skies for at least giving us mortals the chance to buy a supercar at (relatively) everday money. It's like your favourite wayward offspring - you can't help loving 'em, but sometimes they drive you insane!! p.s. I did finally manage to construct a website with some Tamora pics on it....http://website.lineone.net/~nubbin4 (if anyone's interested) Edited by nubbin on Tuesday 15th May 09:57

dubbs

1,588 posts

285 months

Tuesday 15th May 2001
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Take your point, but at least they work!
BBBBWWWOOAAARHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Italian cars.... work!!!! Ferrari's are FAR from Merc build qualtiy and I've heard of people having awful problems before now. Also, Ducati, Maserati, Bugatti, Fiat, Alfa are all well known for not "working" due to electrics mainly. TVRs are not the most reliable car on the road but when compared with similarly manufactured cars in a similar niche they are about the same as most others i.e, Lotus, Ferrari, Marcos, TVR, Maserati are all about the same.

dubbs

1,588 posts

285 months

Tuesday 15th May 2001
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Tamora, this car is a joke do not even mention Boxster in the same context. no chance of any Porsche buyers moving over to TVR with the crap design and poore build quality, more to performance than TVR over estimated BHP and straight line performance 360 TVR BHP = 280 BHP in the real world
As I always say, I'd hate to race against a 993 tubo 4 in a 4.5 cerbera. IT wouldn't be the runaway that many would like to think. As for the other comments, well it's true that TVR bhp is a bit "pie in the sky" but at the same time it's quite awazing at how little difference it makes i.e, watching boxsters which should have better handling round the twisties, get pulled in, out manoeuvered on the corners and then mullered completely down the straights. Maybe it's just that the boxsters I've seen have been driven by inexperienced drivers who don't know how to corner properly but as for any hint of straight line superiority well you'd have to spend at least 60k on a Porsche to come close to any current proddie TVR.

PetrolTed

34,429 posts

304 months

Tuesday 15th May 2001
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well it's true that TVR bhp is a bit "pie in the sky"
Not quite as true as the grapevines would have it. We've got some rolling road stats which we'll publish at some point which tell a more complex story...

Guyr

2,212 posts

283 months

Tuesday 15th May 2001
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Come on Ted - spill the beans. What were the results?????? I bet the Rover v8s were lower than quoted, but the AJPs made about what was quoted. Guy R

nubbin

6,809 posts

279 months

Tuesday 15th May 2001
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We've got some rolling road stats which we'll publish at some point which tell a more complex story...
C'mon Ted, let's see them figures!!

sparks

1,217 posts

280 months

Tuesday 15th May 2001
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Who really cares about BHP. They sound great, and go fairly ( ) well into the bargain! But give us the figures anyway Edited by sparks on Tuesday 15th May 14:03

actarus

2 posts

276 months

Tuesday 15th May 2001
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i love it! Luca Marco

nubbin

6,809 posts

279 months

Wednesday 16th May 2001
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I've done a bit of messing about with some photos of the Tamora, and put the bright alloy wheels onto the red Tamora - it looks a lot better (I think). Check out the photo on http://website.lineone.net/~nubbin4