New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 2)
Discussion
N7GTX said:
Crikey, these Jones Bros know how to drag a job out, don't they? Last update was exactly 3 months ago and hinted at good progress. Wonder why another 3 months on and still not taken possession of the 'prototype' area?
7th June TVR said: "Finally, after all that demolition, construction work commenced with the new roof panels being prepared and lifted up onto the prototype build area earlier this week:
We’re now busy working on finalising the internal layouts for the production areas and the designs for the new offices at the front. We’re looking forward to getting on site once we have clean, dry and weather-proof areas to work in!"
You would have thought they would release a few sketches of the layout or something like that.7th June TVR said: "Finally, after all that demolition, construction work commenced with the new roof panels being prepared and lifted up onto the prototype build area earlier this week:
We’re now busy working on finalising the internal layouts for the production areas and the designs for the new offices at the front. We’re looking forward to getting on site once we have clean, dry and weather-proof areas to work in!"
If they could.
N7GTX said:
Crikey, these Jones Bros know how to drag a job out, don't they? Last update was exactly 3 months ago and hinted at good progress. Wonder why another 3 months on and still not taken possession of the 'prototype' area?
7th June TVR said: "Finally, after all that demolition, construction work commenced with the new roof panels being prepared and lifted up onto the prototype build area earlier this week:
We’re now busy working on finalising the internal layouts for the production areas and the designs for the new offices at the front. We’re looking forward to getting on site once we have clean, dry and weather-proof areas to work in!"
This will probably be the final piece of BS we hear from them…. 7th June TVR said: "Finally, after all that demolition, construction work commenced with the new roof panels being prepared and lifted up onto the prototype build area earlier this week:
We’re now busy working on finalising the internal layouts for the production areas and the designs for the new offices at the front. We’re looking forward to getting on site once we have clean, dry and weather-proof areas to work in!"
Builders are rubbish. Never arrive when they say they will. Never stick to the price. Always takes more time and always always over budget. Always leave a complete mess and never take all the detritus away. And if something isn’t quite right it’s months before they can put it right. If at all.
It’s why I do all my own building work.. it’s quality… I’m never late and I always clear up. Ok so it’s not always quality. I’m not a tradesman. I am an OCD enthusiastic amateur though. Most of my work is better than the so called ‘builders’ achieve. In my humble opinion. Ok so my opinion isn’t worth much. I can live with that. I’m kind of average although my brickwork is pretty good. I got an O level at Skool for woodwork so I’m a bit of a carpenter too. But I can’t plaster. I’m s
t at plastering. Like really rubbish. I can screed ok though. It’s the vertical stuff I can’t do.
It’s why I do all my own building work.. it’s quality… I’m never late and I always clear up. Ok so it’s not always quality. I’m not a tradesman. I am an OCD enthusiastic amateur though. Most of my work is better than the so called ‘builders’ achieve. In my humble opinion. Ok so my opinion isn’t worth much. I can live with that. I’m kind of average although my brickwork is pretty good. I got an O level at Skool for woodwork so I’m a bit of a carpenter too. But I can’t plaster. I’m s
t at plastering. Like really rubbish. I can screed ok though. It’s the vertical stuff I can’t do. baconsarney said:
Builders are rubbish. Never arrive when they say they will. Never stick to the price. Always takes more time and always always over budget. Always leave a complete mess and never take all the detritus away. And if something isn’t quite right it’s months before they can put it right. If at all.
It’s why I do all my own building work.. it’s quality… I’m never late and I always clear up. Ok so it’s not always quality. I’m not a tradesman. I am an OCD enthusiastic amateur though. Most of my work is better than the so called ‘builders’ achieve. In my humble opinion. Ok so my opinion isn’t worth much. I can live with that. I’m kind of average although my brickwork is pretty good. I got an O level at Skool for woodwork so I’m a bit of a carpenter too. But I can’t plaster. I’m st at plastering. Like really rubbish. I can screed ok though. It’s the vertical stuff I can’t do.
Sounds like the true CV of most ‘professional’ builders It’s why I do all my own building work.. it’s quality… I’m never late and I always clear up. Ok so it’s not always quality. I’m not a tradesman. I am an OCD enthusiastic amateur though. Most of my work is better than the so called ‘builders’ achieve. In my humble opinion. Ok so my opinion isn’t worth much. I can live with that. I’m kind of average although my brickwork is pretty good. I got an O level at Skool for woodwork so I’m a bit of a carpenter too. But I can’t plaster. I’m s
t at plastering. Like really rubbish. I can screed ok though. It’s the vertical stuff I can’t do. 
baconsarney said:
Builders are rubbish. Never arrive when they say they will. Never stick to the price. Always takes more time and always always over budget. Always leave a complete mess and never take all the detritus away. And if something isn’t quite right it’s months before they can put it right. If at all.
It’s why I do all my own building work.. it’s quality… I’m never late and I always clear up. Ok so it’s not always quality. I’m not a tradesman. I am an OCD enthusiastic amateur though. Most of my work is better than the so called ‘builders’ achieve. In my humble opinion. Ok so my opinion isn’t worth much. I can live with that. I’m kind of average although my brickwork is pretty good. I got an O level at Skool for woodwork so I’m a bit of a carpenter too. But I can’t plaster. I’m st at plastering. Like really rubbish. I can screed ok though. It’s the vertical stuff I can’t do.
I need a small retaining wall in the garden, would you like to quote? I can pay in tea and bacon sandwiches It’s why I do all my own building work.. it’s quality… I’m never late and I always clear up. Ok so it’s not always quality. I’m not a tradesman. I am an OCD enthusiastic amateur though. Most of my work is better than the so called ‘builders’ achieve. In my humble opinion. Ok so my opinion isn’t worth much. I can live with that. I’m kind of average although my brickwork is pretty good. I got an O level at Skool for woodwork so I’m a bit of a carpenter too. But I can’t plaster. I’m s
t at plastering. Like really rubbish. I can screed ok though. It’s the vertical stuff I can’t do. 
Joking apart if BS’s brickwork is good then he’s doing bloody well in my books as I can’t do it to save my life and having spent a career looking at quality of work I would honestly have mine torn down and started again.
I did a job once that involved a 3.5m high wall 160m long as part of a 10 month project, and the contractor kept reporting it was behind programme and he was yet again changing bricklayers. This continued right through to the last knockings of the job and when I was snagging the rest of the work the wall was still only half built so I spoke to the site agent off the record about it. He said the true reason for the wall delay was Ted. Ted was the Clerk of Works who apparently had been inspecting the wall early morning as the sun was exactly at one end which gave him 10 minutes a day to point out to the bricklayers every protruding brick or belly in their work and then tell them to take it all down and get it right! Most walked off site and the wall got nowhere. I had to have a chat with Ted to explain that ‘optically perfect’ wasn’t a requirement in the spec and please just let them get on with it…
Maybe Ted is in Wales now.
I did a job once that involved a 3.5m high wall 160m long as part of a 10 month project, and the contractor kept reporting it was behind programme and he was yet again changing bricklayers. This continued right through to the last knockings of the job and when I was snagging the rest of the work the wall was still only half built so I spoke to the site agent off the record about it. He said the true reason for the wall delay was Ted. Ted was the Clerk of Works who apparently had been inspecting the wall early morning as the sun was exactly at one end which gave him 10 minutes a day to point out to the bricklayers every protruding brick or belly in their work and then tell them to take it all down and get it right! Most walked off site and the wall got nowhere. I had to have a chat with Ted to explain that ‘optically perfect’ wasn’t a requirement in the spec and please just let them get on with it…
Maybe Ted is in Wales now.
More like Jones bros have not been paid 
You non builder types do realise it takes twice as long to rip out all the old frontage and rebuild it than just constructing a new building in many ways.
The weather this summer barely dried up and strong winds are always present especially a top a mountain.
British forces regularly train in those parts which might be a clue as to the working conditions you might face.
It’s hardly the builders fault and nothing to do with Mr Jones or his brothers why this thing is 4 or is it 5 years delayed.
Most cranes won’t work with gusting wind over 25 mph and applying roof or glass panels in such weather not to be advised.
Let’s not drag the builder into this farce shall we.
You non builder types do realise it takes twice as long to rip out all the old frontage and rebuild it than just constructing a new building in many ways.
The weather this summer barely dried up and strong winds are always present especially a top a mountain.
British forces regularly train in those parts which might be a clue as to the working conditions you might face.
It’s hardly the builders fault and nothing to do with Mr Jones or his brothers why this thing is 4 or is it 5 years delayed.
Most cranes won’t work with gusting wind over 25 mph and applying roof or glass panels in such weather not to be advised.
Let’s not drag the builder into this farce shall we.
Are there any TVR Phers in Ebbw Vale, or even TVR owners in the Ebbw Vale area, who would be kind enough to have a snoop at the factory?
With the recent spell of low wind speeds, it must surely be finished by now.
What a wonderful TVR drive it would be today, with such beautiful weather.
Roaring exhausts in the Welsh valleys. Oh I've come over all Dylan Thomas.
Spent 6 summer months as a hod carrier back in my yoof, brickies were brilliant, I learnt a lot from them, and not just about laying bricks Hoofing it up and down ladders carrying engineering bricks was a great way to build strength and get fit, which is why I did it. Paying for it now in later life though 
Hoofing it up and down ladders carrying engineering bricks was a great way to build strength and get fit, which is why I did it. Paying for it now in later life though I started work as a trainee contracts manager . straight into the office under
a stload of paperwork. I don’t think I saw the Sun for six months!
On the plus side, after that they realised that a young lad with a motorbike was very useful and I spent 80% of the time around the sites in London honing my city motorcycling skills which must’ve paid off as I never had an accident!
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tload of paperwork. I don’t think I saw the Sun for six months!On the plus side, after that they realised that a young lad with a motorbike was very useful and I spent 80% of the time around the sites in London honing my city motorcycling skills which must’ve paid off as I never had an accident!
Classic Chim said:
I looked at your Profile page Alun.
A beautiful spotless engine compartment, but your enormously long list of work astonished me.
Is that what is called 'high maintenance'? Hope you have not added up the cost.
Wonder if an Aston Martin V8 Vantage might be easier and cheaper to look after.
1 door damper.
1 radiator - air conditioning.
4 tyres.
Nothing else has needed replacement during 10 years.
Interestingly, many present Aston Martin owners have come from the TVR world.
Classic Chim said:
More like Jones bros have not been paid
You non builder types do realise it takes twice as long to rip out all the old frontage and rebuild it than just constructing a new building in many ways.
The weather this summer barely dried up and strong winds are always present especially a top a mountain.
British forces regularly train in those parts which might be a clue as to the working conditions you might face.
It’s hardly the builders fault and nothing to do with Mr Jones or his brothers why this thing is 4 or is it 5 years delayed.
Most cranes won’t work with gusting wind over 25 mph and applying roof or glass panels in such weather not to be advised.
Let’s not drag the builder into this farce shall we.
Where did you get this information from? The weather conditions might be a fact but surely the rest is supposition - we don’t know why it’s taking so long, whether government funding is an issue, whether there have been build issues, whether materials availability / prices are an issue, whether the builder has screwed up, whether covid is an issue, whether payment terms have been breached etc etc. Ultimately it’s irrelevant. TVR have no money, no tools, no people, no materials etc You non builder types do realise it takes twice as long to rip out all the old frontage and rebuild it than just constructing a new building in many ways.
The weather this summer barely dried up and strong winds are always present especially a top a mountain.
British forces regularly train in those parts which might be a clue as to the working conditions you might face.
It’s hardly the builders fault and nothing to do with Mr Jones or his brothers why this thing is 4 or is it 5 years delayed.
Most cranes won’t work with gusting wind over 25 mph and applying roof or glass panels in such weather not to be advised.
Let’s not drag the builder into this farce shall we.
If we ever get it, quite cool what can be done to the engine though. 750bhp+ in a tvr anyone?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Just to add salt to the wounds is it possible that TVR will have to incorporate ISA for cars that are made after July next year.
Just think, 7 years in the making, all that initial excitement then the doom and gloom of the last 5 years only to be told "yes we are up and running" only to find you won't be able to exceed any speed limit.
Oh dear, what a bummer that's going to be
Still want that TVR?
Just think, 7 years in the making, all that initial excitement then the doom and gloom of the last 5 years only to be told "yes we are up and running" only to find you won't be able to exceed any speed limit.
Oh dear, what a bummer that's going to be
Still want that TVR?
Monkeylegend said:
Just to add salt to the wounds is it possible that TVR will have to incorporate ISA for cars that are made after July next year.
Just think, 7 years in the making, all that initial excitement then the doom and gloom of the last 5 years only to be told "yes we are up and running" only to find you won't be able to exceed any speed limit.
Oh dear, what a bummer that's going to be
Still want that TVR?
Its looking very likely it will have to be incorporated from 7th July. UK probably going along with EU regs. Major manufacturers are already fitting it. There is a short term fix but there will be noises and flashing lights to warn you though - "You can override the system by pressing hard on the accelerator, but the system will reactivate every time the car is started."Just think, 7 years in the making, all that initial excitement then the doom and gloom of the last 5 years only to be told "yes we are up and running" only to find you won't be able to exceed any speed limit.
Oh dear, what a bummer that's going to be
Still want that TVR?
There will be a Chinese made programmer along shortly to override the system.....
Classic Chim said:
More like Jones bros have not been paid
Let’s not drag the builder into this farce shall we.
TVR are not refurbishing the building, the landlord is. The building was sold in the 1st quarter of this year. TVR were clearly not the buyer. The landlord has to refurbish the building, otherwise they have just bought 172,000 square feet of dilapidated, pigeon only, accommodation, which isn't exactly a good business plan.Let’s not drag the builder into this farce shall we.
When the building is ready then it will be rented to a tenant/(s). That is not likely to be TVR. They don't need 172,000 square feet and their accounts say that cannot afford it either. Renting to tenants who are unlikely to be able to pay the rent isn't exactly a good business plan.
https://www.wales247.co.uk/108703-2
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