Cheap nasty tyres spotted
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I was in a double line of stationary traffic yesterday and there was a Royal Mail van stopped next to me. As I do, being a bit of a pedant, I had a glimpse at what tyres were on it. Does anyone else do this? Obviously I could only see the nearside, the front was a Triangle and the rear was a Passio
Whoever the buyer for the RM is, he certainly isn't looking for anything other than saving a few quid, but you'd think a modicum of safety would be one of the criteria.
I certainly wouldn't want to be in front of it when it attempted an emergency stop, going by some of the reviews I've just read...
Whoever the buyer for the RM is, he certainly isn't looking for anything other than saving a few quid, but you'd think a modicum of safety would be one of the criteria.
I certainly wouldn't want to be in front of it when it attempted an emergency stop, going by some of the reviews I've just read...
r11co said:
Oh dear, another tyre snobbery thread.
Indeed, imagine car enthusiasts having a downer on stty tyres that don't work very well, the weirdos. Why pay for good tyres when crap ones will do a perfectly good job of keeping your wheel rims off the tarmac and get you through to the next MOT?Given that even a van on a local delivery round could easily out-perform those brands of tyres, especially in wet / damp conditions, I'd say they shouldn't be used.
How long before someone challenges an insurance payout / conviction based on the brand of tyre on a vehicle, I wonder? - I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to argue that fitting cheap budget tyres instead of those recommended in the manual is negligent and was a large contributory factor in an accident.
How long before someone challenges an insurance payout / conviction based on the brand of tyre on a vehicle, I wonder? - I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to argue that fitting cheap budget tyres instead of those recommended in the manual is negligent and was a large contributory factor in an accident.
VeeFour said:
Given that even a van on a local delivery round could easily out-perform those brands of tyres, especially in wet / damp conditions, I'd say they shouldn't be used.
How long before someone challenges an insurance payout / conviction based on the brand of tyre on a vehicle, I wonder? - I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to argue that fitting cheap budget tyres instead of those recommended in the manual is negligent and was a large contributory factor in an accident.
Can't see this ever happening, as all tyres, even if they are budget ones, will conform to a certain standard to allow them to be sold in the UKHow long before someone challenges an insurance payout / conviction based on the brand of tyre on a vehicle, I wonder? - I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to argue that fitting cheap budget tyres instead of those recommended in the manual is negligent and was a large contributory factor in an accident.
otolith said:
Indeed, imagine car enthusiasts having a downer on stty tyres that don't work very well, the weirdos. Why pay for good tyres when crap ones will do a perfectly good job of keeping your wheel rims off the tarmac and get you through to the next MOT?
On Royal Mail vans? If someone drives past in a TVR with cheap and horrible rubber then yeah, by all means have a go, but personally I don't give a fk what the 10 year old red van that's used for carrying paper has on it's wheels. As long as it's road legal, what's the problem?I do wonder if those who think 'Triangle' tyres are perfectly acceptable have experienced the true horror of oddly named budget rubber.
I've had LingLongs, Roadstones and Dark Horses on used cars I've bought.
All of which were absolutely lethal.
Even Mrs VeeFour, who isn't the world's quickest driver, described a car she bought as 'a death trap' after experiencing the prolific grip of budget crap on wet roundabouts.
I've had LingLongs, Roadstones and Dark Horses on used cars I've bought.
All of which were absolutely lethal.
Even Mrs VeeFour, who isn't the world's quickest driver, described a car she bought as 'a death trap' after experiencing the prolific grip of budget crap on wet roundabouts.
Mr Gearchange said:
I don't imagine that Pat and his black and white cat are out exploring the limits of grip and the nuances of tread shuffle while stopping at every third house.
As someone else has said premium rubber on a RM van would be a huge waste of money.
'Premium' rubber would be: better/more expensive tyres than the vehicle was equipped with from the factory. I don't think anyone is asking for that - but given the often very intrusive character of H&S regulations nowadays (not to mention all the EU-mandated claptrap that new cars have to comply with) I do find it kind of ironic that the most 'dangerous' tool that RM employees are likely to handle is allowed to wear poor quality and mismatchd tyres. As someone else has said premium rubber on a RM van would be a huge waste of money.
While I agree that budget tyres are probably all that is needed for the most part, surely it's not right to have such a mix. For all I know every tyre was different, and that just can't be safe.
And I'm not talking about "living life on the edge" driving, I'm simply talking about getting safely out of a situation, like a child running out on a wet road or whatever.
And as for tyre snobbery, I couldn't live with myself if the ones I was going to buy stopped me 2 metres quicker than the cheap shyte I actually bought and I NEARLY managed to avoid the kid.
And I'm not talking about "living life on the edge" driving, I'm simply talking about getting safely out of a situation, like a child running out on a wet road or whatever.
And as for tyre snobbery, I couldn't live with myself if the ones I was going to buy stopped me 2 metres quicker than the cheap shyte I actually bought and I NEARLY managed to avoid the kid.
VeeFour said:
Given that even a van on a local delivery round could easily out-perform those brands of tyres, especially in wet / damp conditions, I'd say they shouldn't be used.
How long before someone challenges an insurance payout / conviction based on the brand of tyre on a vehicle, I wonder? - I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to argue that fitting cheap budget tyres instead of those recommended in the manual is negligent and was a large contributory factor in an accident.
I think you are 100% correct that all tyres must pass a set of tests before you are allowed to fit them to your car as its utterly ridiculous this current situation that your tyres must a set of tests before you are allowed to fit them to your car.How long before someone challenges an insurance payout / conviction based on the brand of tyre on a vehicle, I wonder? - I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to argue that fitting cheap budget tyres instead of those recommended in the manual is negligent and was a large contributory factor in an accident.
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