All season tyres or stay with Summer tyres?

[stabilio]

A500leroy said:

https://www.tyre-shopper.co.uk/michelin-crossclima...

Wrong size as mine (factory size) are 275/40.

[Evanivitch]

MustangGT said:

Where is the information for this, I am very interested. My understanding was the compounds used for 4 season was not the same as either summer or winter tyres.

Not the same correct, but the sales pitch for the CrossClimate has always been a summer tyre turned into an all-season, as opposed to the traditional approach of taking a winter Tyre and making it all-season.

https://www.evo.co.uk/features/15600/michelin-cros...

[roscopervis]

The thing most people forget about, especially in 2+ ton Range Rovers, is that no amount of 4x4 trickery is going to help you when you’re braking on slippery conditions, under 7 degrees C and certainly when it’s colder.

What summer tyres do you have? The thing people also don’t seem to realise is that the range of braking performance from summer tyres is vast. Michelin PS4S is excellent, but Linglongs, not so much. The same is true of all season tyres, there will be some that will be better at we braking than others. Bridgestone tend to be wet braking masters if that is your thing.

Try a set of good all seasons and I think you won’t go back.

[bigmowley]

Bill said:

stabilio said:

Pirelli Scorpion Verdes AS

Another vote for the Pirelli Scorpion All Season tyre. Excellent all season tyre. I get over 25000 miles per set out of them on my 420ML, great winter performance, no issues on our alpine ski trips.

[Tom4398cc]

And another vote for Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Season tyres. We put a set on my wife’s Touareg. They have been fine summer and winter, on little lanes and on the motorway. Also good on the toughest test - pulling and stopping a loaded (horse) trailer on wet grass.

Tyre Life has been good too - currently they have done 32,000 miles and have a way still to go, I suspect we’ll get to 40,000 before getting a fresh set.

For something as heavy as a RRS (I think mine weighs 2,200kg) I can’t see the point of an ultra high performance summer tyre. Maybe I have a warped perspective after the Mini GP2 I had, but I’ve yet to come across anything resembling steering feel on my L494. I’d much rather have a tyre that is sure footed in poor conditions on such a vehicle. Just my thoughts and experience, I fully respect others views.

[MustangGT]

aeropilot said:

MustangGT said:

Evanivitch said:

MustangGT said:

charltjr said:

A winterised summer tyre like the crossclimate or Vector 4seasons sounds ideal for your use case.

Both are the definition of an 'all-season' tyre.

No need for all-season and summer, just go all-season all year.

The point they were making is some tyres are derived from winter tyre compounds and design, but those two are (supposedly) summer derived.

Where is the information for this, I am very interested. My understanding was the compounds used for 4 season was not the same as either summer or winter tyres.

Correct, compound is between summers and winters. Almost all 'summer' tyres start to struggle below 5-7C as they can get hard below that, although some are better than otehrs in this regard, whereas AS are good for below freezing.

Thanks, as I thought, so any all(4)-season tyre is good all year round.

[E-bmw]

MustangGT said:

aeropilot said:

MustangGT said:

Evanivitch said:

MustangGT said:

charltjr said:

A winterised summer tyre like the crossclimate or Vector 4seasons sounds ideal for your use case.

Both are the definition of an 'all-season' tyre.

No need for all-season and summer, just go all-season all year.

The point they were making is some tyres are derived from winter tyre compounds and design, but those two are (supposedly) summer derived.

Where is the information for this, I am very interested. My understanding was the compounds used for 4 season was not the same as either summer or winter tyres.

Correct, compound is between summers and winters. Almost all 'summer' tyres start to struggle below 5-7C as they can get hard below that, although some are better than otehrs in this regard, whereas AS are good for below freezing.

Thanks, as I thought, so any all(4)-season tyre is good all year round.

I wouldn't use the word "any" in that sentence.

Just sayin'.

[BenS94]

I've got LR spec Pirelli Scorpion Zero All Season tyres on mine (255/55 R20), reasonably quiet tyre and seems totally unstoppable what ever the conditions. I assume they'll be available in your size.