Winter tyres vol 2

[irc]

Gad-Westy said:

they're spookily quiet. I'm starting to wonder if the bridgestone summer tyres that I just removed were particularly noisy. The car is so much quieter now and way, way quieter than it is on normal winter tyres.

Switching from OE Bridgestones on my Octavia transformed the car. Previously intrusive tyre roar vanished. From being the dominant noise at all speeds to being not there. In my case Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons were the quiet tyre.

The Bridgestones were that noisy I changed them at 3.5m front and 6mm rear. Just to get rid of them.

[RammyMP]

irc said:

Gad-Westy said:

they're spookily quiet. I'm starting to wonder if the bridgestone summer tyres that I just removed were particularly noisy. The car is so much quieter now and way, way quieter than it is on normal winter tyres.

Switching from OE Bridgestones on my Octavia transformed the car. Previously intrusive tyre roar vanished. From being the dominant noise at all speeds to being not there. In my case Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons were the quiet tyre.

The Bridgestones were that noisy I changed them at 3.5m front and 6mm rear. Just to get rid of them.

The wife had Bridgestones on her X1, they were also very noisy

[jon-]

Runflats I'm assuming? Did you change to non-runflats?

[Agarange]

I have e been using all season tyres all year but the wet grip has been lacking. The tyre are quite old now so they need changing. They defined help alot in the winter. I got these second hand but there age is of concern now.

[RammyMP]

jon- said:

Runflats I'm assuming? Did you change to non-runflats?

No, they were normal tyres. She didn’t do enough miles to wear them out. I’d never have Bridgestone out of choice!

[DailyHack]

Stubby 16's with winters fitted to the Volvo bus, what a difference to ride quality compared to the 18's with low "pothole" profiles.

[blueST]

I am an experienced winter tyre user, but this year I've a new dimension to consider. I'm entering the world of modern motoring and getting a car with pressure sensors in the wheels for the first time. I guess these systems or all the same across most manufacturers, but it's a Dacia if that makes any difference.

My question is: If I get a set of winter wheels with sensors in, will they just work when I swap over? Or, do they need programming to the car somehow?

If I go with winter wheels with no sensors, I assume some sort of error message or low pressure warning will show, is that an MOT fail?

[anonymous-user]

blueST said:

I am an experienced winter tyre user, but this year I've a new dimension to consider. I'm entering the world of modern motoring and getting a car with pressure sensors in the wheels for the first time. I guess these systems or all the same across most manufacturers, but it's a Dacia if that makes any difference.

My question is: If I get a set of winter wheels with sensors in, will they just work when I swap over? Or, do they need programming to the car somehow?

If I go with winter wheels with no sensors, I assume some sort of error message or low pressure warning will show, is that an MOT fail?

This is a problem. I got a set of identical wheels for a Mini with sensors fitted assuming they would work when fitted. They don’t.
What I’ve ended up doing , is bringing the MOT forward a month to the beginning of November, pass the MOT with the working sensors on the summer tyres and then fit the winter tyres / wheels immediately after and live with the warning light on. (Obviously keep an eye on pressures in the old fashioned way).
Technically illegal I suppose but no different to anyone older car with no sensors.

[RicksAlfas]

blueST said:

I am an experienced winter tyre user, but this year I've a new dimension to consider. I'm entering the world of modern motoring and getting a car with pressure sensors in the wheels for the first time. I guess these systems or all the same across most manufacturers, but it's a Dacia if that makes any difference.

My question is: If I get a set of winter wheels with sensors in, will they just work when I swap over? Or, do they need programming to the car somehow?

If I go with winter wheels with no sensors, I assume some sort of error message or low pressure warning will show, is that an MOT fail?

Older/cheaper systems required programming, but in my experience on Suzuki, BMW and Mercedes they just work. In all cases I bought like for like valves from the manufacturers part number. i.e. I didn't go on Amazon and find the cheapest things possible!

There is a small gyroscope in the sensors which wakes them up once the car is rolling so it takes a couple of minutes for the sensors to start sending readings.

My first port of call would be the Dacia parts desk and ask for a price or a part number.

[Red 5]

My experience with modern monitoring systems, is that BMW and Porsche, you just buy oem sensors for tour winter wheels and they just work.
Drive off over 15mph and they read fine.

I now have a Hyundai and I need to get some programmed to fit.
Less common car, so less easy options too.
I paid £120 a set for Cayman / Macan, but over £240 for an i30n.
Supply and programming locally though.

[Red 5]

Has anyone notice how often Blackcircles run their 15% off four tyres off please?

[bolidemichael]

Metal Guru said:

blueST said:

I am an experienced winter tyre user, but this year I've a new dimension to consider. I'm entering the world of modern motoring and getting a car with pressure sensors in the wheels for the first time. I guess these systems or all the same across most manufacturers, but it's a Dacia if that makes any difference.

My question is: If I get a set of winter wheels with sensors in, will they just work when I swap over? Or, do they need programming to the car somehow?

If I go with winter wheels with no sensors, I assume some sort of error message or low pressure warning will show, is that an MOT fail?

This is a problem. I got a set of identical wheels for a Mini with sensors fitted assuming they would work when fitted. They don’t.
What I’ve ended up doing , is bringing the MOT forward a month to the beginning of November, pass the MOT with the working sensors on the summer tyres and then fit the winter tyres / wheels immediately after and live with the warning light on. (Obviously keep an eye on pressures in the old fashioned way).
Technically illegal I suppose but no different to anyone older car with no sensors.

In this scenario, are you running rft winters or non?

[blueST]

RicksAlfas said:

blueST said:

I am an experienced winter tyre user, but this year I've a new dimension to consider. I'm entering the world of modern motoring and getting a car with pressure sensors in the wheels for the first time. I guess these systems or all the same across most manufacturers, but it's a Dacia if that makes any difference.

My question is: If I get a set of winter wheels with sensors in, will they just work when I swap over? Or, do they need programming to the car somehow?

If I go with winter wheels with no sensors, I assume some sort of error message or low pressure warning will show, is that an MOT fail?

Older/cheaper systems required programming, but in my experience on Suzuki, BMW and Mercedes they just work. In all cases I bought like for like valves from the manufacturers part number. i.e. I didn't go on Amazon and find the cheapest things possible!

There is a small gyroscope in the sensors which wakes them up once the car is rolling so it takes a couple of minutes for the sensors to start sending readings.

My first port of call would be the Dacia parts desk and ask for a price or a part number.

So, might work, might not. I was going to buy the wheels and tyres ready mounted with the sensors in from My Tyres, but can’t say what brand of sensor they supply.

If they do need programming, does that have to happen every time I swap sets, or is it a one time thing?

[RicksAlfas]

blueST said:

So, might work, might not. I was going to buy the wheels and tyres ready mounted with the sensors in from My Tyres, but can’t say what brand of sensor they supply.

If they do need programming, does that have to happen every time I swap sets, or is it a one time thing?

Don't know, as none of mine have ever needed programming! I imagine it's a one time thing.
Won't MyTyres tell you?

[Turbojuice]

blueST said:

I am an experienced winter tyre user, but this year I've a new dimension to consider. I'm entering the world of modern motoring and getting a car with pressure sensors in the wheels for the first time. I guess these systems or all the same across most manufacturers, but it's a Dacia if that makes any difference.

My question is: If I get a set of winter wheels with sensors in, will they just work when I swap over? Or, do they need programming to the car somehow?

If I go with winter wheels with no sensors, I assume some sort of error message or low pressure warning will show, is that an MOT fail?

Every car is different, but with most as long as the sensors are correct, the car will just pick them up automatically, so no programming needed. A quick Google would confirm if your car requires programming or not.

[anonymous-user]

bolidemichael said:

Metal Guru said:

blueST said:

I am an experienced winter tyre user, but this year I've a new dimension to consider. I'm entering the world of modern motoring and getting a car with pressure sensors in the wheels for the first time. I guess these systems or all the same across most manufacturers, but it's a Dacia if that makes any difference.

My question is: If I get a set of winter wheels with sensors in, will they just work when I swap over? Or, do they need programming to the car somehow?

If I go with winter wheels with no sensors, I assume some sort of error message or low pressure warning will show, is that an MOT fail?

This is a problem. I got a set of identical wheels for a Mini with sensors fitted assuming they would work when fitted. They don’t.
What I’ve ended up doing , is bringing the MOT forward a month to the beginning of November, pass the MOT with the working sensors on the summer tyres and then fit the winter tyres / wheels immediately after and live with the warning light on. (Obviously keep an eye on pressures in the old fashioned way).
Technically illegal I suppose but no different to anyone older car with no sensors.

In this scenario, are you running rft winters or non?

Run flats . Does that effect it?

[RicksAlfas]

Metal Guru said:

Run flats . Does that effect it?

Doesn't make any difference to the TPMS valves.

[bolidemichael]

Metal Guru said:

bolidemichael said:

Metal Guru said:

blueST said:

I am an experienced winter tyre user, but this year I've a new dimension to consider. I'm entering the world of modern motoring and getting a car with pressure sensors in the wheels for the first time. I guess these systems or all the same across most manufacturers, but it's a Dacia if that makes any difference.

My question is: If I get a set of winter wheels with sensors in, will they just work when I swap over? Or, do they need programming to the car somehow?

If I go with winter wheels with no sensors, I assume some sort of error message or low pressure warning will show, is that an MOT fail?

This is a problem. I got a set of identical wheels for a Mini with sensors fitted assuming they would work when fitted. They don’t.
What I’ve ended up doing , is bringing the MOT forward a month to the beginning of November, pass the MOT with the working sensors on the summer tyres and then fit the winter tyres / wheels immediately after and live with the warning light on. (Obviously keep an eye on pressures in the old fashioned way).
Technically illegal I suppose but no different to anyone older car with no sensors.

In this scenario, are you running rft winters or non?

Run flats . Does that effect it?

That's illiegal, so yes.

When I first got my E500 estate and drove to Germany over winter, I knew nothing about tyres (really) and sourced some winter tyres, used, MO spec, from a local tyre fitter. In hindsight, they shouldn't have fitted them as it is illegal to fit RFT to a non-RFT equipped vehicle -- the logic being that a puncture or loss of pressure wouldn't be registered on the dash, which could be dangerous. I had been running around on those things (Pirelli Sottozero 3, incidentally, which were very good tyres) at huge speeds on the autobahnen/autostrada/autoroutes etc! I some point towards Spring on a regular check, I discovered that one (or two, iirc) were actually punctured, one of them running 20ishPSI.

tldr: don't run RFT with no tyre monitor as it is both illegal and potentially dangerous

[Red 5]

Black Circles are running the Michelin 15% off code today, so I’ve ordered a set of Cross Climate 2 for my new BBS SR winter wheels

[vdn]

Ok. Advice needed. In the past, I'd always default to Nokian winters for the Alps. This year, we're in my Mrs's new car and her tyres are: 275 / 45 / 21

I note that Nokian are still good but any advice before I pull the trigger on 4 x new winter / good in snow / tyres.