Winter tyres vol 2
Discussion
havoc said:
Bonefish Blues said:
I'm pretty sure it's the small Skoda SUV/crossover thingy. Haven't a clue what the name is (Enyak?).
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FiF said:
havoc said:
Bonefish Blues said:
I'm pretty sure it's the small Skoda SUV/crossover thingy. Haven't a clue what the name is (Enyak?).https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Actually on my next turn round my bowl I'll have forgotten it, I'm sure.
Smint said:
Konan said:
Tractor wheels back on for the year. Not sure if they need scrubbing back in or something but they've made the car really oversteery. Is that a word?
Am assuming its a Subaru from the wheel centres.Really sensitive to tyre pressures, my ageing SG9 XT you can feel the effect of even any mild difference in pressures, confess i'm not one for weekly checks but the handling soon lets me know if a tyre is down by even a couple of psi.
The car is slightly rear bias, but it's pretty hard to tell that unless you provoke it, which I generally don't ever do. With the four seasons on, I just noticed a push from the rear in the wet under power, not enough for the diff to start doing anything but perceivable where it wouldn't normally be.
Might just be the lower grip levels showing up how the car behaves.
Maybe not and exact for for a winter tyre thread, but these will be tyres running in winter.
I get they're not a winter specific tyre, just an AT, but I ran these on a 4x4 previously and managed to plough through snow drifts nearly a couple of feet thick without too much hassle.
They weren't amazing on the more frozen packed stuff you get on the road, but not awful
Employing them on a midsize crossover as a 'do everything' attempt, but most mindful of road manners. They're a very road bias AT tyre and one of the few available when you get down to car size profiles.
I get they're not a winter specific tyre, just an AT, but I ran these on a 4x4 previously and managed to plough through snow drifts nearly a couple of feet thick without too much hassle.
They weren't amazing on the more frozen packed stuff you get on the road, but not awful
Employing them on a midsize crossover as a 'do everything' attempt, but most mindful of road manners. They're a very road bias AT tyre and one of the few available when you get down to car size profiles.
Edited by Konan on Sunday 12th November 12:56
^^^ those GO15s are proper winter rated all seasons, sporting the mountain and snowflake symbol, have them on a Prado, besides the agreed good snow grip found them to be superb in the wet in all weathers, i do however increase the pressures by 5psi in the hot weather because they can feel a bit squidgy probably due to the softer compound.
If and when this set are out will replace with the same, well priced too.
If and when this set are out will replace with the same, well priced too.
Konan said:
Great looking wheel-tire combo with Yokohama Geolander G015 on a Forester turbo
Hi Konan, how do you find them in wet during summer and early autumn, before temps go below 10 C ? Would like to install them on my 2008 Forester SH 2.0 n/a, but I've heard confronting info on the wet performance.ST565NP said:
Konan said:
Great looking wheel-tire combo with Yokohama Geolander G015 on a Forester turbo
Hi Konan, how do you find them in wet during summer and early autumn, before temps go below 10 C ? Would like to install them on my 2008 Forester SH 2.0 n/a, but I've heard confronting info on the wet performance.I know I've taken wet traction and breaking beyond the point that a mid-range AT tyre would grumble or even some regular summer passenger tyres. So far, I don't recall the slightest bit of ABS and certainly no flashing from the traction control.
So I think the best I can say is they're 'absolutely fine' in my book. And that's in terms of me wanting an AT tyre for a bit of extra durability but to be as road-bias as possible.
I did go from a Roadian AT to a set of G015s on my old XJ Cherokee as I started to tow with it more and they were night and day in wet grip. To the point I missed the theatrical drifting and the straight 6 lighting up
hehe - laughing at myself. A few years ago I would have said drive to the conditions and whilst that is still true I have been running some Michelin CrossClimate 2 - the biggest difference for me is when the temperature goes lower - you can feel the additional grip over summer tyres. We now run these all year on the wifes audi q7 and just swapped the fronts over on the little Seat Leon to the same as they needed changing in anyevent.
911 keeps the summer tyres as has little use in winter but for all else they will be on all season going forward. Certainly a convert.
911 keeps the summer tyres as has little use in winter but for all else they will be on all season going forward. Certainly a convert.
superlightr said:
hehe - laughing at myself. A few years ago I would have said drive to the conditions and whilst that is still true I have been running some Michelin CrossClimate 2 - the biggest difference for me is when the temperature goes lower - you can feel the additional grip over summer tyres. We now run these all year on the wifes audi q7 and just swapped the fronts over on the little Seat Leon to the same as they needed changing in anyevent.
911 keeps the summer tyres as has little use in winter but for all else they will be on all season going forward. Certainly a convert.
I'm going to put some CC2's on out qashqai, we are out in the sticks, so lots of mud, water & no gritting of roads. We do a few runs to Scotland each year to see family too & it was only the question of motorway noise that's made me hold fire.911 keeps the summer tyres as has little use in winter but for all else they will be on all season going forward. Certainly a convert.
Lets hope for some black friday deals!
darreni said:
Lets hope for some black friday deals!
I may be behind the times, but I wouldn't expect B/F deals on tyres.Although if you know your size & check regularly the price of tyres does vary quite a bit across the year.
I normally start checking around a year before I think I NEED them & will inevitably save 20%+ when I pull the trigger.
superlightr said:
hehe - laughing at myself. A few years ago I would have said drive to the conditions and whilst that is still true I have been running some Michelin CrossClimate 2 - the biggest difference for me is when the temperature goes lower - you can feel the additional grip over summer tyres. We now run these all year on the wifes audi q7 and just swapped the fronts over on the little Seat Leon to the same as they needed changing in anyevent.
911 keeps the summer tyres as has little use in winter but for all else they will be on all season going forward. Certainly a convert.
That's pretty representative I'd say - they are now so good they pass most people's 'why wouldn't I do that?' test.911 keeps the summer tyres as has little use in winter but for all else they will be on all season going forward. Certainly a convert.
I’ve had Goodyear Vector Gen3s on for a few months. They are just starting to come into their own.
I’ve tried many brands etc of summer tyres over the last decade or so but have always favoured Goodyear Eagle F1s in 3,5 and 6 flavours. Always rated them highly, especially for wet grip.
These Vectors surpass them all. Wet grip, especially recently as the temps have dropped to single figures in the mornings is brilliant. Completely unflappable, and particularly good through standing water (of which there’s been a lot lately!).
Looking forward to the weather getting a bit more wintery to see how they get on.
I’ve tried many brands etc of summer tyres over the last decade or so but have always favoured Goodyear Eagle F1s in 3,5 and 6 flavours. Always rated them highly, especially for wet grip.
These Vectors surpass them all. Wet grip, especially recently as the temps have dropped to single figures in the mornings is brilliant. Completely unflappable, and particularly good through standing water (of which there’s been a lot lately!).
Looking forward to the weather getting a bit more wintery to see how they get on.
superlightr said:
hehe - laughing at myself. A few years ago I would have said drive to the conditions and whilst that is still true I have been running some Michelin CrossClimate 2 - the biggest difference for me is when the temperature goes lower - you can feel the additional grip over summer tyres. We now run these all year on the wifes audi q7 and just swapped the fronts over on the little Seat Leon to the same as they needed changing in anyevent.
You've put CrossClimate's on the front only on the Leon?Bonefish Blues said:
Trustmeimadoctor said:
I just looked at getting all seasons and can only find one brand in my size
Vredestein Quatrac Pro are they any good?
Yes, I'm finding them excellent on the Panda 4x4, easily as good as the Hankooks I am used to.Vredestein Quatrac Pro are they any good?
Trustmeimadoctor said:
Bonefish Blues said:
Trustmeimadoctor said:
I just looked at getting all seasons and can only find one brand in my size
Vredestein Quatrac Pro are they any good?
Yes, I'm finding them excellent on the Panda 4x4, easily as good as the Hankooks I am used to.Vredestein Quatrac Pro are they any good?
Sheepshanks said:
superlightr said:
hehe - laughing at myself. A few years ago I would have said drive to the conditions and whilst that is still true I have been running some Michelin CrossClimate 2 - the biggest difference for me is when the temperature goes lower - you can feel the additional grip over summer tyres. We now run these all year on the wifes audi q7 and just swapped the fronts over on the little Seat Leon to the same as they needed changing in anyevent.
You've put CrossClimate's on the front only on the Leon?Well aware of rear may be more prone to loose grip before the front but I dont hoon around in that car.
Edited by superlightr on Tuesday 14th November 22:43
superlightr said:
yes. rears dont need replacing. So choice was either new summer tyres to match rears or all season on the front and then when the rear wear change those to all season as well.
Well aware of rear may be more prone to loose grip before the front but I dont hoon around in that car.
Just be aware the grip differential can be significant, to the point it gets rather tiresome when the roads are greasy.Well aware of rear may be more prone to loose grip before the front but I dont hoon around in that car.
superlightr said:
Well aware of rear may be more prone to loose grip before the front but I dont hoon around in that car.
Are you the only person who drives it?It’s fast wet bends where it’s most dodgy - the back can just let go. The physics is weird - it’s worse with very unmatched grippy tyres on the front than with 4 worn matching tyres.
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