RE: Budding Designer Pens New Lotus
Wednesday 9th October 2002
Budding Designer Pens New Lotus
Same ideas rehashed or inspiration for the future?
Discussion
Oh dear, not again.
These stupid wheels have been knocking around Cov for yonks.
There's just no reasoning with the marker fairy/High concept boys. They just don't realise that unrealistic wheels sapp credibity from the whole design, as far as people who ACTUALLY know how a chassis works are concerned.
Check this one out
We're not all engineerically inept. The one at front, the BearCub is mine, most of you should recognise the also ran, and the yokoSCC comes permission of MJS.
Mouse.
These stupid wheels have been knocking around Cov for yonks.
There's just no reasoning with the marker fairy/High concept boys. They just don't realise that unrealistic wheels sapp credibity from the whole design, as far as people who ACTUALLY know how a chassis works are concerned.
Check this one out
We're not all engineerically inept. The one at front, the BearCub is mine, most of you should recognise the also ran, and the yokoSCC comes permission of MJS.
Mouse.
My question is, why does everything Lotus-related these days have to look like it comes from, or belongs in, outer space? (The M250 started all that nonsense) I'm sure none of these kids have ever seen a Type 14 Elite, Type 26 Elan, or a Europa. Maybe one of the "instructors" at the design studio should show them what designers with taste were doing 25 or so years before these kids had their fingers in their mouths. It's no wonder why I don't get excited by seeing new concepts. By the way, I agree with beano, Muira wheels should be a standard by which others are judged. And, bring back 70-series tires please, I want to see some rubber in between the wheel and the road!
"submit that for type-approval and it would require so many alterations and changes it would look nothing like it does now. "Everyday(!!!) Lotus"... I don't think so. Who teaches these students??? The same people who plan our roads?"
This is exactly my problem with designs like this. The deisgner will whine "but I don't want to be constrained, I want to be free express my self in my designs", and to an exent that's fair enough.
My view is: get the thing looking right and make it pheasable, then your beloved creation won't hacked to pieces by aesthically challenged engineers.
We were actually give engineering and type aproval lectures on the course, just most people thought that they were optional(?) or grated against their artistic sensibilitues. They don't seem to realise that they were intended as another gun in the armourey, which if wieled correctly would free us from the frustraion of not see our intended designs come to fruition.
Don't draw something that can't work, you will be dissapointed.
If you can limit this kind of damage, surely the final outcome is actually the purer design?
If you want to know who teaches these students check out the
www.coventry.ac.uk/csad/
Mouse
This is exactly my problem with designs like this. The deisgner will whine "but I don't want to be constrained, I want to be free express my self in my designs", and to an exent that's fair enough.
My view is: get the thing looking right and make it pheasable, then your beloved creation won't hacked to pieces by aesthically challenged engineers.
We were actually give engineering and type aproval lectures on the course, just most people thought that they were optional(?) or grated against their artistic sensibilitues. They don't seem to realise that they were intended as another gun in the armourey, which if wieled correctly would free us from the frustraion of not see our intended designs come to fruition.
Don't draw something that can't work, you will be dissapointed.
If you can limit this kind of damage, surely the final outcome is actually the purer design?
If you want to know who teaches these students check out the
www.coventry.ac.uk/csad/
Mouse
Nice sketching DM - can you recommend any books to help learn how to draw the pretty stuff (I'm an engineer - you want it in 3D on CAD I can do it, you want it sketched with anything other than a pencil and I'm stuck)
BTW I think stupidly huge wheels are a good thing - it's the easiest way to spot a boyed up Novesta.
BTW I think stupidly huge wheels are a good thing - it's the easiest way to spot a boyed up Novesta.
True enough Muppet, which is why Twink goes incognito on reasonabley standard 15's. They never know what's hit'em. How's the "Bastard Bitch", fully convelessed from her time under the knife?
There are some books, can't remeber what they're called off hand, I'll find out for you.
I've never used them myself. I'm flukey enough that I can "just do it(TM)".
The drawing there isn't really a sketch though, more of a portriat, but I thought it was fitting considering the demographic that use this forum.
As I've said somewhere else round here, when I've sorted the whole portfolio, I'll stick a link up. Not to show off mind, it's full of all sorts of wierd stuff, just becuase I feel it's of interest, and I'd appreciate the feedback, from people who I know will be constructive.
Mouse.
There are some books, can't remeber what they're called off hand, I'll find out for you.
I've never used them myself. I'm flukey enough that I can "just do it(TM)".
The drawing there isn't really a sketch though, more of a portriat, but I thought it was fitting considering the demographic that use this forum.
As I've said somewhere else round here, when I've sorted the whole portfolio, I'll stick a link up. Not to show off mind, it's full of all sorts of wierd stuff, just becuase I feel it's of interest, and I'd appreciate the feedback, from people who I know will be constructive.
Mouse.
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