RS2000, not its Best Colour?
Discussion
aeropilot said:
I would enjoy a stock standard car more than that thing.
I understand what you are getting at but so many were never Standard with Janspeed this and Burton Stage that . Especially as they passed on from the Original Owners to the rest of us further down the chain and I suppose that was the beauty of owning any Ford .Its only now with stratospheric values that Owners start shouting about originality . I must admit the only mod I really frowned at was the pop out sunroof and I refused to fit one even back then
gt40steve said:
They were factory fitted with the 'broad stripes' . The delete option was the pin stripe as above, this car has been treated to the 1/4 panel decals as an add on. A very common modification back in the day.
They look slightly out of position to me. (Too far forward )
Less desirable is the dent in the rear panel !
To my eye the car has had a rear knock as the Bumper is out of line also .They look slightly out of position to me. (Too far forward )
Less desirable is the dent in the rear panel !
https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic-auctions/2...
Going through tomorrow apparently
Going through tomorrow apparently
Edited by reddiesel on Saturday 27th January 16:35
Rob 131 Sport said:
I had a brief look at today’s auction and prices looked on the low side. However, this is an RS2000 that looks in really good condition so I can see it making £30k plus.
Has the RS Bubble started to deflate a bit Rob ? As you say , historically its one of those Cars .12TS said:
Which brings us to the next question I suppose and that's has the Vendor made a mistake in not selling ?aeropilot said:
And herein lies the problem.
Really good cars with known and documented history are, what, only 10-15% more than something like this, which begs the question, why would anyone pay this much for something like this when only a little but more gets you something much, much better...?
That one owner, sub-30k miles all original RS2 that Mathewsons sold in the last series, went for just over £50k.....which is an absolute bargain, when you compare it to this at £46.5k...!!
Happy to stick my neck out and say that it wouldn't matter much to me and I say that on the basis that many have had paintwork and I don't see a fire as that different to panel damage . I drive the Cars I buy rather than Invest in them and anyone that mucked around with Escorts in period I suppose would feel the same way . I agree that the Mathewsons Car was an absolute bargain .Really good cars with known and documented history are, what, only 10-15% more than something like this, which begs the question, why would anyone pay this much for something like this when only a little but more gets you something much, much better...?
That one owner, sub-30k miles all original RS2 that Mathewsons sold in the last series, went for just over £50k.....which is an absolute bargain, when you compare it to this at £46.5k...!!
aeropilot said:
I'd be a LOT more nervous of a fire damaged repaired car than anything unless it was very small localised underbonnet fire etc., due to the potential change in strength of the steel from heat.
I take your point and understand the science behind it but suspect you are over egging the pudding somewhat . sortedcossie said:
Anything other than localised fires are a no go, the heat involved damages them beyond repair and as mentioned the strength of a shell is reduced. You could replace all exterior panels but still have areas of weakness.
Off topic a bit, but my dad was a old school traditional panel beater from the age of 15, retired at 68 a few years back, knew how to lead load and use an English wheel - skills that are sadly being lost. I recall clearly a Porsche 911 in the late 90's that they had in that had fire damage to the engine area, no flame damage beyond the fire wall just smoke damage inside. But, the heat had distorted a lot including the firewall, both legs each side and inner wings/flitch areas. It looked repairable at first, but the only option would have been to replace everything from the front seats back really.
I've got pictures of it somewhere, chap a unit a few doors down was locking the gates and left it idling. Heard a small odd kind of pop, and it just burst into flames!
That must have been a scene . I was in my late fifties before I ever bought a Porsche and it was more a desire to "have a go" at one and make some comparisons than any life crisis scenarios . I think the inability to access the engine something which you actually forget about when driving the thing always leaves me when hearing a pop or bang with an empty bowel feeling .Off topic a bit, but my dad was a old school traditional panel beater from the age of 15, retired at 68 a few years back, knew how to lead load and use an English wheel - skills that are sadly being lost. I recall clearly a Porsche 911 in the late 90's that they had in that had fire damage to the engine area, no flame damage beyond the fire wall just smoke damage inside. But, the heat had distorted a lot including the firewall, both legs each side and inner wings/flitch areas. It looked repairable at first, but the only option would have been to replace everything from the front seats back really.
I've got pictures of it somewhere, chap a unit a few doors down was locking the gates and left it idling. Heard a small odd kind of pop, and it just burst into flames!
rallycross said:
Well good luck to him he’s put his money into it and will no doubt have to spend some money prepping it for sale, he’s offering finance etc. I think it sold for under value at Anglia.
Ive no problem with anyone making a Profit but instead of the car being undervalued at Anglia , I am wondering if prices in genera for thesel have started to cool ? I won't imagine the Dealer will do much prepping on her because once you start you can rapidly find yourself on the way to a total restoration . Conversely just " touching bits in " can leave a bigger mess than when you started and RS Buyers and Enthusiasts are notoriously knowledgeable and picky and can spot an imperfection a mile off . Like I said earlier he still has to sell it and I think the Dealer is simply gambling on the fact he bought it cheaply in the first place .
https://www.mathewsons.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-191--...
Mathewsons with an RS2000 that's clearly had a bit done
Mathewsons with an RS2000 that's clearly had a bit done
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