Classics that never evolved?

[flat16]

Is that a P6 I see on the front wheel? Were they standard kit on the Volumex as well then?

(I really am a terrible anorak :-) )

Get your Spyder out pronto Clapham! It'll make a nice change from all the homogenous TTs and Boxsters one sees around SW London.

[lanciachris]

Yes, that is a p6, for the one day it was on the car before both fronts were replaced with pilot exaltos and it was relegated to a spare

P6s do seem to be widely used amoung vx owners though. I dont rate them

[clapham993]

lanciachris said:

Yes, that is a p6, for the one day it was on the car before both fronts were replaced with pilot exaltos and it was relegated to a spare P6s do seem to be widely used amoung vx owners though. I dont rate them

I used P6s on the Spyder: they were great for adhesion but they didn't last 5 minutes, which was a bit of an issue as an inpecunious subarlturn

[flat16]

Following on from the Europa info, just found this whilst searching for something else:

http://postdiluvian.org/~seven/pics/cars/47d/might.html

http://postdiluvian.org/~seven/pics/cars/47d/index.html

Would've been quick with a V8 methinks.

[bumpkin]

flat16 said:

lanciachris said: The Lancia Beta Montecarlo definately deserved more attention, especially the crippled us versions. Tell me about it! I've often wondered what configuration the Monte would have if it had received the same level of development as the Delta? >> Edited by flat16 on Friday 22 October 21:17

wasn't the Lancia Rallye (as in grp b rally cat before the delta S4) based on the monte carlo? if so there's your answer

[Alpineandy]

bumpkin said:

flat16 said: lanciachris said: The Lancia Beta Montecarlo definately deserved more attention, especially the crippled us versions. Tell me about it! I've often wondered what configuration the Monte would have if it had received the same level of development as the Delta? wasn't the Lancia Rallye (as in grp b rally cat before the delta S4) based on the monte carlo? if so there's your answer

I think you mean the 037, Which can't really be called a development, as it's soooo far developed beyond a monte. Same with the sports racer, that had the same look. A Lancia man may be able to tell us differently.

[flat16]

Alas, about the only thing my dear old (A-plate) Monte has in common with an 037 is the glass :-) ('Tis for this reason I do not have a funky stereo in the Monte, glass costs an arm and a leg on account of this - well that and the Primaflow exhaust) Even the engine is rotated 90degrees in an 037.

One area I'm not too clued-up on is just how much alluminium was used in the 037, so the Monte might have one or two panels in common :-)

I believe the bodywork on the Grp5 Monte (there's the Le Mans class-winning example for auction soon, expected price £130-170K) is alluminium and carbon-fibre, not sure about the 037.

Once upon a time I would've been able to recite the variations between evolutions of 037, but memory fails me these days... You'll have to ask LanciaChris :-)

There have been one or two factory prototype Montes for sale with Turbo-charged engines - these cars are the ones that interest me most for everyday road use, much as I adore the 037 I couldn't see myself negotiating London traffic in one.

BTW, according to Classicscars.com, the Grp5 Monte they sold recently had a higher power-to-weight ratio than a Mclaren F1, 768bhp per tonne I believe!


thrice edited for typos!

>> Edited by flat16 on Saturday 4th December 14:50