MK1 3 Litre Capris, How Many Survive ?

MK1 3 Litre Capris, How Many Survive ?

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v46m4n

150 posts

153 months

Saturday 10th September 2011
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wasn't the 2.5 essex only available in the consul?
I can remember searching for a gearbox bellhousing from one of those, when putting a 5speed 2.8i box in my 3.0 capri. It had the essex engine bolt config and 4 bolt gearbox cofig unlike the 6 bolt of the 3.0 box

Touring442

3,096 posts

210 months

Saturday 10th September 2011
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The 2.5 first arrived in the Mark IV Zephyr 6, around 1966 ish. What a bloody awful thing they were as well. Consuls and XL Granadas had it too, but they couldn't have been up to much. I seem to recall they were dropped around 1975 along with the V4 2000 when the Consul was dropped and the 2 litre Pinto was used.
The Essex V4 was a pretty grim as a 1700, but I once drove a low mileage Corsair 2000E and I thought the engine was okay - certainly went well and it seemed to rev okay with that high pitched whine. I reckon with a decent build, flowed heads and a cam, a 2000 V4 could make a half decent engine for a Mark 1 Capri that's far more interesting than the usual bloody Pinto. They look weird though - in a Zephyr, it's so far back it looks like the heater motor.

forsure

2,121 posts

269 months

Saturday 10th September 2011
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Touring442 said:
The Essex V4 was a pretty grim as a 1700, but I once drove a low mileage Corsair 2000E and I thought the engine was okay - certainly went well and it seemed to rev okay with that high pitched whine. I reckon with a decent build, flowed heads and a cam, a 2000 V4 could make a half decent engine for a Mark 1 Capri that's far more interesting than the usual bloody Pinto. They look weird though - in a Zephyr, it's so far back it looks like the heater motor.
The V4 looked a bit lost in the Capri too. Never had the chance to try one, but I do recall reading a road-test at the time that was quite positive.

Being so compact it was a popuar choice for street-rod Morris Minors, as it would drop in without the need to modify the bulkhead.

Legacywr

12,218 posts

189 months

Saturday 10th September 2011
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Essex V6 meets Mk2 Cortina!




Skyedriver

17,975 posts

283 months

Saturday 10th September 2011
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Had a 2.5V6 Consul (like the Grandad but a bit cheaper) in 1978/9
In metallic brown, strangely or maybe not, it both faster and cornered better than the MGB I traded in foe it.

trackerjack

649 posts

185 months

Saturday 10th September 2011
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V4 Oh my god an aweful engine, no power and rough too.
I had a 1970 Capri GTXLR and it was slow and the engine oil drive sheared (common fault for essex lumps) at just over 60 k miles.
A friend had one too but by then I had a Triumph TR4 which despatched his Capri easily.

Touring442

3,096 posts

210 months

Sunday 11th September 2011
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forsure said:
Being so compact it was a popuar choice for street-rod Morris Minors, as it would drop in without the need to modify the bulkhead.
I recall a feature in an early seventies Hot Car mag with a black Minor which had a 2 litre V4 installed. Saw a couple of Anglias with them too - back then Pintos were still new and too expensive used for your average Anglia owner to put one in. Shagged Corsairs and Zephyr 4's were not!

liner33

10,704 posts

203 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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The diff from the V4 Corsair was a popular upgrade for the M2 Cortina crowd, we used one when fitting a Rover V8 to a 1600e , gearing wasnt great though 110mph flat out

v46m4n

150 posts

153 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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recently see a white rs3100 N reg driving south on A5 nr milton keynes. looked like it was in need of some tlc, wonder who owns it?

Legacywr

12,218 posts

189 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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v46m4n said:
recently see a white rs3100 N reg driving south on A5 nr milton keynes. looked like it was in need of some tlc, wonder who owns it?
RSOC national day at Donnington this weekend.

v46m4n

150 posts

153 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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Wonder if this one is still sitting left to rot. RS3100 what a waste!

2slo

1,998 posts

168 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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v46m4n said:

Wonder if this one is still sitting left to rot. RS3100 what a waste!
If it's genuine that's a real shame it's been left to rot. It'd be worth over £10k if in good condition. Amazing the difference in values between fast Capris of the 70s and same age fast escorts, is this http://www.oakfields.com/html/showroom01Detail.asp... really worth £56k? The fact that it's still for sale would suggest not.

Touring442

3,096 posts

210 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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v46m4n said:

Wonder if this one is still sitting left to rot. RS3100 what a waste!
Probably 'going to do it up' one day.

v46m4n

150 posts

153 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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Touring442 said:
Probably 'going to do it up' one day.
how many times have i heard that onelaugh

Spitfire2

1,922 posts

187 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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2slo said:
If it's genuine that's a real shame it's been left to rot. It'd be worth over £10k if in good condition. Amazing the difference in values between fast Capris of the 70s and same age fast escorts, is this http://www.oakfields.com/html/showroom01Detail.asp... really worth £56k? The fact that it's still for sale would suggest not.
I know a chap in a local car club who has a Mk1 BDA Escort. He was somewhat surprised when a valuation for insurance purposes came in at £45,000 and he's since had offers around that amount :-/

I'd still rather have a Capri :-)

Touring442

3,096 posts

210 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Spitfire2 said:
a valuation for insurance purposes came in at £45,000 and he's since had offers around that amount :-/
£45'000 for a bloody Escort? They were nice, but not THAT great. Think what you could buy with 45k.

Oh well, leave them to it!

Spitfire2

1,922 posts

187 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Spitfire2 said:
This is one of the very rare 4WD Rally Capri's which has been sat in a garage for over 25 years. I was priveliged to get a peek at it today as it has just been dropped off for restoration after all that time.

Looks like the Driver seat must have been interesting (its not in the car) as there is a large bulge in the floor above the transfer box.

There are also a few battle scars - it is wearing old,narrow and chunky rally tyres which must have peppered the bodywork and looks like the underside has came into contact with some large rocks in its time.

At some point it got painted in the colours in the pic which are not original, however if I understand right, in 3 or 4 months it will be looking like its old self.

I'm cheekily hoping to get a peek at the work in progress and if I can time a visit right maybe get a pic of the finished article.


An update on this car. The restoration is well underway.

The car is going to be returned to its original spec (it's been in various configurations over the years and at one point had inlet trumpets poking up through a hole in the bonnet) so will be in the old blue and white colours.

Should be back on its wheels this year and I from what I gather its bound to show up in some of the old Ford magazines.

It's going to be something else - it's one of the Roger/Stan Clark cars & feasibly the only running 4WD Capris left. Can't wait biggrin

terenceb

1,488 posts

172 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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Thinking of buying a Capri,has the 3ltr mechanicals,but it is only registered as a 1600,any one have any suggestions please.

rallycross

12,846 posts

238 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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Spitfire2 said:
An update on this car. The restoration is well underway.


It's going to be something else - it's one of the Roger/Stan Clark cars & feasibly the only running 4WD Capris left. Can't wait biggrin
Keep us updated so good this has been found and will be restored these are a special part of rallycross history! see attached photo



DBSV8

5,958 posts

239 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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terenceb said:
Thinking of buying a Capri,has the 3ltr mechanicals,but it is only registered as a 1600,any one have any suggestions please.
Its very easy to modify any Capri and convert it to 3 litre format , which mark is your car ?
mk 1, mk2, mk3 .

On the mk1 s if it was an original 3 litre shell it would have small triangular corner braces at the rear of the engine bay , and normally strengthening plates on the mcpherson struts . There are usually 3 bolts holding the engine cross member as opposed to 2 .

obvious issues like , make sure the rear axle and gearbox has been changed otherwise the ratios will be wrong , if your running a 3 litre on a 1600 axle it wont last very long. and speedo needs to be a 3 litre format.

if everything mechanically matches 3 litre format , I would get the V5 changed to reflect it , otherwise you may invalidate your insurance ,

good luck 3 litres are a lot of fun have a bit more torque than 2.8i s and like getting the tail out in the wet