The Range Rover Classic thread

[T-J-C]

Anyone know what bulbs I should be using for the gear selector lights? I've found conflicting information and already bought the wrong size.

It physically is capless 501 size, but I first found out that I should use 1.2w. Today I've read about others using 3w bulbs and others using 5w bulbs. I also found some people saying not to use 5w bulbs as they are too hot. However I checked the Rave manual and in there it says 5w.

Thanks

[DonkeyApple]

5w is generally a little punchy. The bulk of interior lamps use the 2.2w bulbs.

I don’t know for sure but my understanding is that the 5w is used in exterior side lights but all the binnacle and dash stuff is 2.2. I would have though 2.2 more than enough for the later ZF lighting and I suppose the risk of 5w internally is too much heat?

[paintman]

Seems a bit strange but a quick look in the LR factory manual for mine (SRR660ENWM All RR models 1986 to 1989 & is the ZF autobox) says & I quote verbatim "The correct bulb type is a 24-volt 5-watt 'wedge' base (capless)"

Same specification is repeated in the 'General specification data' section in the same manual so I'm inclined to believe it's not a misprint. All other capless bulbs are shown as 12v.

Could it be a simple solution to reducing heat & light output? - perhaps one of our electrickery savvy people could advise!


ETA To confuse matters further (or perhaps simplify?) Lrcat for RRC 92-94 gives the bulbs as LR part number 573289. This comes up on the usual suspects sites as capless, 12 volt 3 watt.
http://new.lrcat.com/#!/1229/86775/86776/6801/8679...
BUT
Lrcat for RRC 86-92 gives the bulbs as RTC6089 & that comes up as capless, 24 volt 5 watt.
http://new.lrcat.com/#!/1230/77150/77151/6110/7716...

Edited by paintman on Thursday 7th May 10:51

[T-J-C]

Thanks for your help. Should have clarified I’ve got a soft dash with 4 speed ZF. Part number I’ve come across is STC881 but I can’t find anything saying what the specs of the bulb under this part number are.

The bulb I removed has no markings on it so that’s not helping either.

[paintman]

Probably a cunning ploy by LR so you have to buy a genuine one from them for £gazillions.

Bit of a Google brought up this from Atlantic British with a pic of a bulb. The G on the end of their part number means genuine part.
I don't know whether the pic is actually of the bulb or just a generic pic but it shows 12v & what looks as though it might be 0.1 amps.
Put 0.1 amps into an amp to watt conversion site & it says 1.2 watts.
https://www.roverparts.com/electrical/light-bulbs/...

Probably simpler just to order your part number from one of the usual suspects or give one a ring/email & see what they say.

Edited by paintman on Thursday 7th May 11:33

Edited by paintman on Thursday 7th May 11:34

[cayman-black]

So i have this to look at next week, looks clean..

[neutral 3]

That Does look nice !! Really miss not having a 2 door Rangie.....

[DonkeyApple]

Hard to see much wrong in terms of rot.

[FMB123]

I need to remove my rear tow assembly and replace. are the threads that these bolts (circled) screw in to part of the chassis or do i need to remove the rear bumper to access a nut?

Thanks!

[DonkeyApple]

It’s a nut and bolt set up. I’ve always just whipped the bumper off to fit a hitch but it might be plausible to get a spanner in there to hold the heads and undo the nuts if you’re swapping hitches?

[cayman-black]

Guys, what is that silver pipe bolted on top of the manifold for? I realise it something for the carburettors but some have it and on others its missing.
Is it not important? In this picture, it has no Flexi tubes connected even. Thank You.

[Filibuster]

cayman-black said:

Guys, what is that silver pipe bolted on top of the manifold for? I realise it something for the carburettors but some have it and on others its missing.
Is it not important? In this picture, it has no Flexi tubes connected even. Thank You.

Could it be the crank house gas evaporator thingy? (Kurbelwellengehäuseentlüftung in German, don't know what it is called in English, I hope you know what I mean)

ETA
Almost! Crankcase ventilation system.
And yes, I think that is what you mean.

Edited by Filibuster on Thursday 21st May 15:55

[DonkeyApple]

Do you mean the mushroom? That’s a breather for the carbed engines.

[cayman-black]

DonkeyApple said:

Do you mean the mushroom? That’s a breather for the carbed engines.

Yes DA, on the left in the picture. Loads are not there though and the one in the picture is not connected anywhere its just bolted on top of the manifold and thats it. Below picture shows the correct way i presume.

[EW109]

The mushroom is not a breather. It is an inlet into the hot box on the exhaust manifold. The other connector on the hot box (2 1/18" OD, I think) should have a flexi-tube attached which then goes to the air control valve before the air cleaner, which is missing.

It should look something like this (this is my stage 1 V8, but it is basically the same):

[paintman]

http://new.lrcat.com/#!/1230/73417/74385/5957
Hose 9 goes to item 17 in this link:
http://new.lrcat.com/#!/1230/73417/74385/5978

[cayman-black]

That's it paintman so what is it called? I cannot find them anywhere. thx.

EW yours has the Flexi but no pipe, right? thx.

So my last engine picture is correct as it should be?

Edited by cayman-black on Thursday 21st May 19:00

[EW109]

It is called something like a temperature control unit. Part number 587653. This might be it:

https://www.johnrichardssurplus.co.uk/land-rover-d...

But you will need various other bits to connect it all up. See earlier helpful link for what you need (also, the series 3 and stage 1 parts book page1N 06).

It won't come cheap and I am far from convinced it does much. It is an addition to the detoxed engines -- the older engines do not have it.

[cayman-black]

Thanks EW. That's not it but you are probably right as i have seen many with it not fitted. Its just the top part of this manifold.

[paintman]

Sorry, I should have said. The links are from Lrcat & if you click on the blue numbers by the part you will get the description and the Land Rover part number.
My manual refers to it as 'the hot air box'.

Once you've got a part number a google should give you a number of suppliers such as Brit-Car, Rimmers, Craddocks, DLS etc
Some items are long obsolete though & you may struggle. In which case you might try specialist breakers or sometimes ebay.

Edited by paintman on Thursday 21st May 23:41