Nice Jag!

[P5BNij]

According to Thorley's 'Factory Original Jaguar Mk1 & Mk2' book 36,985 Mk1s were built, I wonder how many have survived? There were still quite a few about round our way in the '70s, usually quite tatty but still exuding a lot of old school charm.

I had another sly shuftie at Guy Broad's place in Browns Lane on the way to the NEC last weekend...













The wonderful XJ13 and others in the collection at Gaydon...





















S1 XJ12 at the NEC Resto show earlier this year...



And more from Gaydon, it's like being let loose in a sweet shop sometimes...



















Note the old doors from the front entrance of Browns Lane in the background...

[lowdrag]

The XKSS at Browns Lane is the very first built by Lynx in 1982. In fact it was a short nose D-type converted for the President of the French JDC, Roland Urban. It wasn't particularly well done being the prototype really, but was sold at Zoute about three years back and fetched about £170,000, but the owner telephoned me about it, having bought it sight unseen on the internet from Singapore. Unfortunately he is 6' 4" and I told him he'd never fit in it! I'm 5' 8" on a good day and about the perfect size for mine. Anyway, the car has been modified and that is now the one in the Lynx showroom there. No photo of the long nose D-type. Had that been removed?

[V12 Migaloo]

and31 said:

Apart from that ….

was that Michael Ballard??

[P5BNij]

lowdrag said:

The XKSS at Browns Lane is the very first built by Lynx in 1982. In fact it was a short nose D-type converted for the President of the French JDC, Roland Urban. It wasn't particularly well done being the prototype really, but was sold at Zoute about three years back and fetched about £170,000, but the owner telephoned me about it, having bought it sight unseen on the internet from Singapore. Unfortunately he is 6' 4" and I told him he'd never fit in it! I'm 5' 8" on a good day and about the perfect size for mine. Anyway, the car has been modified and that is now the one in the Lynx showroom there. No photo of the long nose D-type. Had that been removed?

I'm sure the long nose D-Type was there recently, they seem to move the cars around a fair bit in that showroom and I pass it quite often (taking a slight detour off the A45 in truth) so I'll keep looking in. Earlier this year they had a beautiful replica of Mike Hawthorn's Mk1 3.4 in one corner of the showroom, it really was an eyeful.

I'm 5' 3' so the KKSS would do me nicely!

More historical Jag stuff, no doubt some of these images will be very familiar...























One of my neighbours is a dead ringer for this chap - Dennis Jenkinson collecting his new E-Type from Browns Lane...

[lowdrag]

Great set of early E-type photos thank you. Here is one of 1600 RW and 77 RW, chassis # 850004 and 850003 which I came across while watching a 1961 film. I believe it was the only time that 1600 RW, the Lofty England demonstrator, was ever filmed. This in 1961. Unusual to see 77 RW on white wall tyres.

[P5BNij]

lowdrag said:

Great set of early E-type photos thank you. Here is one of 1600 RW and 77 RW, chassis # 850004 and 850003 which I came across while watching a 1961 film. I believe it was the only time that 1600 RW, the Lofty England demonstrator, was ever filmed. This in 1961. Unusual to see 77 RW on white wall tyres.

Lofty's golden sand early E-Type came up for sale not that long ago.

The actor John Leyton had an early roadster...

[I-am-the-reverend]

I always wondered what Bill Lyons thought of films like 'Robbery' (1967) where Peter Yates directed the chase between the crims in a 3.8 Mark 2 and the rozzers in an S Type.

Would he have been horrified, or chuckling at the free publicity? A lot of BMH press cars were used including the primrose E Type roadster.

[P5BNij]

I-am-the-reverend said:

I always wondered what Bill Lyons thought of films like 'Robbery' (1967) where Peter Yates directed the chase between the crims in a 3.8 Mark 2 and the rozzers in an S Type.

Would he have been horrified, or chuckling at the free publicity? A lot of BMH press cars were used including the primrose E Type roadster.

By the time the film was released in August '67 the Mk2 had been around for almost eight years so you could say the publicity would have been a nice nudge to keep it in the public eye a bit longer. The primrose E-Type is stilI around I think. I was watching 'The Gold Robbers' last night with Peter Vaughan being driven about in a black S-Type...

[uk66fastback]

lowdrag said:

Great set of early E-type photos thank you. Here is one of 1600 RW and 77 RW, chassis # 850004 and 850003 which I came across while watching a 1961 film. I believe it was the only time that 1600 RW, the Lofty England demonstrator, was ever filmed. This in 1961. Unusual to see 77 RW on white wall tyres.

I am sure I have seen both these cars in an old Edgar Wallace episode - driven by Lee Montague …

[I-am-the-reverend]

I remember turning up at a scrapyard in Somerset in the late 70's to buy an engine for a Mini and seeing a row of dead Mark II's and S Types plus a Mark X. They were just worthless then. A pity more didn't survive.

[and31]

I-am-the-reverend said:

I remember turning up at a scrapyard in Somerset in the late 70's to buy an engine for a Mini and seeing a row of dead Mark II's and S Types plus a Mark X. They were just worthless then. A pity more didn't survive.

Look at all the old jaguars used for banger racing-such a shame

[uk66fastback]

The Edgar Wallace episode was released in May ‘61 and was called ‘Man at the Carlton Tower’.

Driven by Lee Montague (still alive aged 96), the car went from 77 RW to 1600 RW from scene to scene …





1600 RW sold at auction in Sept for £911,250.

Edited by uk66fastback on Saturday 18th November 19:34

[Mr Tidy]

and31 said:

Look at all the old jaguars used for banger racing-such a shame

Looking back now it was a shame, but back in the late 60s an all Jaguar banger race at Wimbledon was a fantastic spectacle - and it probably helped current values!

[P5BNij]

More old school Jag nostalgia...

[clubsport]

I appreciate this may divide opinion. especially as it is an XJ6.

I have always liked these for obvious reasons!

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1973-jaguar-xj...

[mph]

It's quite a while since I've owned an XJ6 but this thread has got me wanting another one.

I've got chance of a low mileage S3 manual car in very nice condition and I've got to decide very soon. In the past I've preferred the auto but now I'm thinking that the five speed manual is better suited for modern motoring - lower revs and better mpg.

I'd welcome opinions/experience from anyone who's owned both.

[lowdrag]

the 5-speed manual is a very rare car nowadays I believe and one of the last S3 models but while it is but a 3-speed, the slush box is probably better suited. Obviously a personal decision, and I must admit I missed an S1 manual a couple of years back when Jaguar were selling off part of the James Hull collection. It went for just under £10,000 from memory. That was a manual/overdrive car back then. But make sure the car is in good shape underneath!

Edited by lowdrag on Wednesday 22 November 02:13

[mph]

This particular car is even rarer, being a Daimler model.

Apparently the manual gearbox wasn't an option on the Daimler S3 and, as far as can be ascertained, this is the only car to be so fitted from new.

It was a special order from a customer with some connections.

[lowdrag]

From memory. this being the BL days, the 5-speed came from the Rover P6 I think, but anyway, if not that definitely from Rover.

[P5BNij]

clubsport said:

I appreciate this may divide opinion. especially as it is an XJ6.

I have always liked these for obvious reasons!

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1973-jaguar-xj...

I rather like it, it's nicely executed - the arches are in your face but the blackened window frames are quite subtle! Love the interior too.

The late Trevor Francis with his XJ-S...





The XJ13 being loaded up at Browns Lane...



The Duke of Kent with Norman Dewis in an XKSS at MIRA in 1957...



As much as I'd like another Series XJ, I can't stop thinking about Mk2s...



I've just finished reading Philip Porter and Paul Skilleter's biography of Sir William Lyons, thoroughly recommended

Edited by P5BNij on Wednesday 22 November 10:28

Edited by P5BNij on Wednesday 22 November 10:28